Re: Adrenal

[Guest guest]

Debbie,

sounds like you are on the right track with your daughter and this is definitely

the right place to vent <g>

Lynda (in the UK)

Adrenal

I've mentioned my daughter before. Slight developmental delays (18

going on 12, but progressing), great learning problems, hyper.... With

all I'm learning here, I think she may have thyroid issues as well. I

think her learning problems may very well be short term memory

difficulties. I am going to start pursuing that asap. I've got to show

dh that this armour is making a difference with me first. Ohhh I get so

tire of taking baby steps. Giant leaps would be so much fun!

Anyway, one of our major problems with her is she can never settle down

at night. Then, once she does get to sleep, we can't get her up.

She'll sleep 10 to 12 hours straight. If we do manage to get her up,

she drags all day....doesn't get her work done (we homeschool). This

drives dh bonkers! He is a morning person. Plus others don't

understand. They think it's a discipline issue. So I get blammed. I

have tried ssooooo many things. Sometimes I want to yell, " IT'S NOT ME

STUPID!! " Docs have given us various meds to get her to sleep, but they

only work for a few days. I absolutely hate giving her this stuff.

They want me to increase it, but I am resisting big time.

After reading about the wired but tired symptom with adrenal fatigue and

other adrenal stuff, I decided to try her on some adrenal support. I

gave her the FTF because it has other ingredients that you need to take

with it. It helps me not to have to push so many pills down her.

Well....... all of a sudden her meds are working! Wonder why? hehehehe

Last night she said, " Mom, you know how I used to go to bed and I had to

read two chapters to get sleepy enough to fall asleep? Well, now I only

read a couple of paragraphs and I'm out! "

Now my next step will be to try reducing her sleep medicine and

hopefully eliminate it all together.

Lastly, if I can get to Dr. Milton, I'm going to take her also. It has

been such a battle with my local docs dealing with my thyroid issues, I

would probably push them over the edge if I started bugging them about

Kate.

My dh and I really get along fine, but this difference of opinion on

traveling to a doc is about to get to me. Also while my hypo symptoms

have only recently (last 10 yrs) gotten bad enough to affect quality of

life, I think he's had problems from the get-go. We just didn't know

it. And, I know he has adrenal issues. I believe Kate's got a double

set of genes pushing her in that direction. I think he thinks I've gone

off the deep end with this thyroid stuff, because I keep pointing out

symptoms that we all have that are a part of hypothyroidism and/or

adrenal fatigue. Of course, I get no help from the docs and it's made

worsed by the fact that he trusts them too much.

I haven't shared too much of this with you guys, b/c when I start to

write about it, I just don't know where to start. There is so much!

Plus, I don't want to overwhelm ya'll. I probably shouldn't say

anything, but thanks for letting me vent.

Anyway, I wanted to share about the FTF helping Kate to sleep at night.

Maybe sometimes I'll post other symptoms and ya'll can see why I think

TD and Adrenal disfunction is an issue with dh and Kate.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

[Guest guest]

Debbie,

I know where you're coming from. My doc just tested tsh and ft4 and they came

back " normal " . He wouldn't do the ft3 even though I asked. He said it was an

" outdated " test. Anyway, I feel like I'm constantly trying to convince someone

that there is something wrong with me or that I'm making excuses for myself.

Then I feel like maybe I'm being a hypochondriac or something. My husband

figures that if my doc says I'm fine why should I go somewhere else. I'm in one

of those moods where I hate being me right now.

Good luck with everything with yourself and your family.

Shelli

Adrenal

I've mentioned my daughter before. Slight developmental delays (18

going on 12, but progressing), great learning problems, hyper.... With

all I'm learning here, I think she may have thyroid issues as well. I

think her learning problems may very well be short term memory

difficulties. I am going to start pursuing that asap. I've got to show

dh that this armour is making a difference with me first. Ohhh I get so

tire of taking baby steps. Giant leaps would be so much fun!

Anyway, one of our major problems with her is she can never settle down

at night. Then, once she does get to sleep, we can't get her up.

She'll sleep 10 to 12 hours straight. If we do manage to get her up,

she drags all day....doesn't get her work done (we homeschool). This

drives dh bonkers! He is a morning person. Plus others don't

understand. They think it's a discipline issue. So I get blammed. I

have tried ssooooo many things. Sometimes I want to yell, " IT'S NOT ME

STUPID!! " Docs have given us various meds to get her to sleep, but they

only work for a few days. I absolutely hate giving her this stuff.

They want me to increase it, but I am resisting big time.

After reading about the wired but tired symptom with adrenal fatigue and

other adrenal stuff, I decided to try her on some adrenal support. I

gave her the FTF because it has other ingredients that you need to take

with it. It helps me not to have to push so many pills down her.

Well....... all of a sudden her meds are working! Wonder why? hehehehe

Last night she said, " Mom, you know how I used to go to bed and I had to

read two chapters to get sleepy enough to fall asleep? Well, now I only

read a couple of paragraphs and I'm out! "

Now my next step will be to try reducing her sleep medicine and

hopefully eliminate it all together.

Lastly, if I can get to Dr. Milton, I'm going to take her also. It has

been such a battle with my local docs dealing with my thyroid issues, I

would probably push them over the edge if I started bugging them about

Kate.

My dh and I really get along fine, but this difference of opinion on

traveling to a doc is about to get to me. Also while my hypo symptoms

have only recently (last 10 yrs) gotten bad enough to affect quality of

life, I think he's had problems from the get-go. We just didn't know

it. And, I know he has adrenal issues. I believe Kate's got a double

set of genes pushing her in that direction. I think he thinks I've gone

off the deep end with this thyroid stuff, because I keep pointing out

symptoms that we all have that are a part of hypothyroidism and/or

adrenal fatigue. Of course, I get no help from the docs and it's made

worsed by the fact that he trusts them too much.

I haven't shared too much of this with you guys, b/c when I start to

write about it, I just don't know where to start. There is so much!

Plus, I don't want to overwhelm ya'll. I probably shouldn't say

anything, but thanks for letting me vent.

Anyway, I wanted to share about the FTF helping Kate to sleep at night.

Maybe sometimes I'll post other symptoms and ya'll can see why I think

TD and Adrenal disfunction is an issue with dh and Kate.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

[Guest guest]

Thanks so very much Lynda. I appreciate the support. At least there's

sombody who doesn't think I'm crazy. LOL

Debbie K.

Re: Adrenal

Debbie,

sounds like you are on the right track with your daughter and this is

definitely the right place to vent <g>

Lynda (in the UK)

----- Original Message -----

[Guest guest]

Thanks Shelli. It's nice to know other relate. Ya'll are making me feel

much better!

Blessings,

Debbie K.

Re: Adrenal

Debbie,

I know where you're coming from. My doc just tested tsh and ft4 and they

came back " normal " . He wouldn't do the ft3 even though I asked. He said

it was an " outdated " test. Anyway, I feel like I'm constantly trying to

convince someone that there is something wrong with me or that I'm

making excuses for myself. Then I feel like maybe I'm being a

hypochondriac or something. My husband figures that if my doc says I'm

fine why should I go somewhere else. I'm in one of those moods where I

hate being me right now.

Good luck with everything with yourself and your family.

Shelli

Adrenal

[Guest guest]

Shelli.....

I sure do feel for you! Just KNOW that all of this isn't in your mind and that

your

complaints and desire for help are completely valid.

Does your doctor hand you a lab slip/sheet to take to the lab for drawing? Or

does

he verbally give the orders to the phlebotomist? If he hands you a slip, look

on it for

the free T3 test and STAND THERE until he checks the box. Do not MOVE until he

does this. Do not give up on this issue. This is your right as a human being

to be

treated 100% and this disease usually cannot be treated as such without the free

tests. He's playing an ego game with you so don't play along with him. His

problem

is is that if he tests for FT3 and it's not right, he'll be obligated to

medicate for it and

he probably doesn't know how or is one of these doctors who cringes at the

thought

of having to prescribe and therefore deal with the " dangers " (oh horrors!!!) of

that

lethal T3 medication. (I'm kidding here!) To any doctor who wouldn't prescribe

T3 I

would look straight in the eyes and firmly state, " Why can't I have T3? YOU and

every

other person with a normal thyroid has it flowing in their blood!! WHY is it

not okay

for me to have the full range of thyroid hormones flowing in mine! "

Grrrrrr....... egotistical, ignorant doctors!! They make me want to puke!

Just know that you're never going to get treated correctly for this disease

unless you,

yourself, take the bull by the horns, act ultra assertively and demand that the

right

things get done. I just KNOW how hard it is to do this when one is feeling like

crap,

the brain isn't working like it should and the self-esteem is in the toilet.

But I know

you can do it! You're NOT a hypochondriac!

And above ALL else..... get physical copies of your TSH and FT4. I will NEVER

again in

my whole life accept a doctor telling me my results were " normal. " Never, ever!

Especially when it comes to the thyroid!

Good luck and just do it!

Janet

> Debbie,

> I know where you're coming from. My doc just tested tsh and ft4 and they came

back " normal " . He wouldn't do the ft3 even though I asked. He said it was an

" outdated " test. Anyway, I feel like I'm constantly trying to convince someone

that

there is something wrong with me or that I'm making excuses for myself. Then I

feel

like maybe I'm being a hypochondriac or something. My husband figures that if my

doc says I'm fine why should I go somewhere else. I'm in one of those moods

where I

hate being me right now.

[Guest guest]

Keep us posted on your daughter Debbie.. it sure does sound like she may

have adrenal issues... and possibly thyroid as well....

Topper ()

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:00:09 -0600 Debbie K

writes:

> I've mentioned my daughter before. Slight developmental delays (18

> going on 12, but progressing), great learning problems, hyper....

> With

< snip >

[Guest guest]

Hi Debbie K.,

I get the digest version of this group so sometimes my (very few)

responses are delayed. I have a 9 1/2 year old daughter I suspect of

having hypo problems. (I have Hashi's.) I've had the standard TSH,

FT4, and FT3 tests run on her. Her TSH numbers have indicated

possible hypo problems, but her FT4 and FT3 were always near the

upper range. As a " far reach, " her pediatrician did a Chromium check

on her, and it was low normal. We put her on 1,000 mg Chromium/day

and had her rechecked in 6 weeks. She was then in the upper normal

range. During those 6 weeks we saw her fatigue and brain fogginess

(she also homeschools) fade away, plus she began sleeping better. I

pray that her chromium levels will stabilize and that there won't be

a thyroid problem later. We'll see when her hormones kick in which

may be within a year or so since she's showing signs of puberty.

Chromium somehow affects your sugar levels.

Just wanted to throw out another possibility for you to consider. You

may e-mail me off list if you wish to compare more notes.

Blessings to you,

Janice in TN

> I've mentioned my daughter before. Slight developmental delays (18

> going on 12, but progressing), great learning problems, hyper....

With

> all I'm learning here, I think she may have thyroid issues as

well. I

> think her learning problems may very well be short term memory

> difficulties. I am going to start pursuing that asap. I've got to

show

> dh that this armour is making a difference with me first. Ohhh I

get so

> tire of taking baby steps. Giant leaps would be so much fun!

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Janice! I'm always looking for possibilities. I will certainly

keep that in mind. I've heard they can take hair samples to check for

mineral deficiencies. Wish I knew where I could send one.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

Re: Adrenal

Hi Debbie K.,

I get the digest version of this group so sometimes my (very few)

responses are delayed. I have a 9 1/2 year old daughter I suspect of

having hypo problems. (I have Hashi's.) I've had the standard TSH,

FT4, and FT3 tests run on her. Her TSH numbers have indicated

possible hypo problems, but her FT4 and FT3 were always near the

upper range. As a " far reach, " her pediatrician did a Chromium check

on her, and it was low normal. We put her on 1,000 mg Chromium/day

and had her rechecked in 6 weeks. She was then in the upper normal

range. During those 6 weeks we saw her fatigue and brain fogginess

(she also homeschools) fade away, plus she began sleeping better. I

pray that her chromium levels will stabilize and that there won't be

a thyroid problem later. We'll see when her hormones kick in which

may be within a year or so since she's showing signs of puberty.

Chromium somehow affects your sugar levels.

[Guest guest]

I wish I'd done that when I first went in....

Topper ()

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:35:17 -0000 " whitecap89 "

writes:

> slip, look on it for

> the free T3 test and STAND THERE until he checks the box. Do not

> MOVE until he

> does this. Do not give up on this issue. This is your right as a

> human being to be

> treated 100% and this disease usually cannot be treated as such

> without the free

> tests. He's playing an ego game with you so don't play along with

> him.