Re: Re: (Janet and achiness) Janie

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tarry black stools that stick to the toilet bowel are also a sign of folic acid

deficiency. I know firsthand!

Re: (Janet and achiness) Janie

>I got a 24 hour urine earlier this month and it was 26 (about

>midrange) and my 8AM cortisol on Thursday was 16.3 (5-22).

Maybe you never needed adrenal support?

>Could my iron be too high from an 18mg supplement via the MVit?

I was thinking more on the line of something else going on

internally to explain that metallic taste and those dark stool.

>I'm probably not being patient enough since I want to be able to

>go back to work soon!

Understandable!! I was SO impatient when I switched to Armour!! But

I had to do it slowly. And even when I got to my optimal dose, there

were still changes going on in my body!! )

>What is it about taking thyroid replacement that requires extra B

>vitamins, Janie?

Because your body is getting stronger and more healthy, thus your

requirements are increasing. Have read this with two docs, so far.

Janie

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Hey, I stole that description right from the Internet! LOL

Re: (Janet and achiness) Janie

Ok. Quit trying to gross me out! LOL

>tarry black stools that stick to the toilet bowel are also a sign

>of folic acid deficiency. I know firsthand!

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I just thought........ the stools can look like you have blood in them if

you eat certain foods...............

ThyroFeisty

Re: (Janet and achiness) Janie

> Janie,

> I thought of those options, too. In light of the darker stools and it

taking slightly

> longer for my blood to stop after my blood draw on Thursday, plus the fact

that my

> eyelids and areas under my eyes are pretty puffy, my tongue is swollen, my

joints are

> achy and my insomnia hasn't let up at all, I think I'll go for stopping

the adrenal

> support. Haven't really seen any benefit from it so far and I'd hate for

it to mess

> things up any more than they have. Would sure love to get serum cortisol

levels 4x a

> day before getting really serious about finding a supp I can handle. I

got a 24 hour

> urine earlier this month and it was 26 (about midrange) and my 8AM

cortisol on

> Thursday was 16.3 (5-22). But I had been working 7p-7a for the last 8

years and

> even though I've been off that schedule for a month and have been trying

to be more

> of a " day " person, I can feel a pretty strong surge of cortisol anywhere

from 8p-12m

> and then I'm definitely " up " until 4-6am. In this line of reasoning, my

8AM cortisol

> level probably reflected my just " coming down. " I most certainly didn't

feel like a 16.3

> that morning!! For me, getting an 8AM cortisol at about 3-4PM would

probably be

> more accurate. Thus my wish for a 4-level cortisol test. My endo had no

concept of

> this 4x/day cortisol test. Plus, I had taken 1 cap of my adrenal supp for

4 days, then

> 2 for 2 days and 0 for 2 days prior to the test. Don't know for sure but

perhaps this

> messed with the accuracy also. I just think being able to cut that late

night cortisol

> level back would do wonders. Then I could at least get some decent sleep

without my

> heart pounding. Oh, well......

>

> Could my iron be too high from an 18mg supplement via the MVit? No, I

think it's the

> adrenal support as the darker stools were just yesterday (very slight) and

today

> (Saturday). Keeping everything the same for another week isn't really a

realistic

> option given the symptoms I gave above and the fact that I really don't

feel well right

> now at all. I can feel the additional Armour working via a clearer brain,

etc., but I'm

> thinking the 1/2 grain jump last Sunday was a tad too much at one time.

Am going

> to back down to 1 grain for a couple of days and then go back up to 1 1/2

for a

> couple of days and then just add another 1/4. I'm probably not being

patient enough

> since I want to be able to go back to work soon! But I know I'll need a

much clearer

> brain and much more energy to do that without the risk of being sick.

>

> What is it about taking thyroid replacement that requires extra B

vitamins, Janie? I

> should be doing that anyway but just don't like to overdo the Bs. Is high

potency

> pretty standard for thyroid folks?

>

> The possible internal bleeding really worries me. Thanks for voicing

concern. I'll

> keep you posted on what happens with all this.

>

> Thanks again,

> Janet

>

> -- In NaturalThyroidHormones , " loboshe " <usns@r...> wrote:

> > Janet, your symptoms are definitely a puzzle. I can see lots of

> > options to choose from, and you are the best one to decide, of

> > course. I can see you keeping everything the same for another week

> > or so, and seeing what happens. Or, I can see you stopping the

> > adrenal support and see what happens. Or, you could purchase some

> > high potency B-vitamins and see what happens.

> >

> > Hopefully, too, your doctor is aware of your situation, too. The

> > darker stools concern me since they can be the result of internal

> > blood loss. Or maybe your iron levels are too high???? Now that

> > could be the issue, too.

> >

> > Please keep us informed. I will certainly be thinking about you!!

> >

> > Janie )

> >

> >

> > > Janie,

> > > Thanks for responding. The only added iron I get is from my

> > multivitamin and that's

> > > only 18mg. Also to consider is that I'm having a heavy period

> > (this is now day 5) and

> > > I would think my iron would be somewhat decreased by this in the

> > first place.

> > >

> > > I've been taking adrenal supps for about 10 days now. Do you

> > think this might have

> > > something to do with what I'm experiencing? I suppose it could be

> > the B vitamins as

> > > the only additional ones I'm getting is in the MVit.

> > >

> > > Don't quite know what to think, Janie.

> > > Janet

>

>

>

>

>

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It is also a good sign of bleeding ulcers or internal bleeding.Know this first

hand!

Shirley

Re: (Janet and achiness) Janie

Ok. Quit trying to gross me out! LOL

>tarry black stools that stick to the toilet bowel are also a sign

>of folic acid deficiency. I know firsthand!

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I don't have ulcers or any stomach issues, but with all the B's I am on, if my

iron doesn't stay up after the 325mg 3x aday, they are going to look for some

internal issues or blood disease

Re: (Janet and achiness) Janie

Ok. Quit trying to gross me out! LOL

>tarry black stools that stick to the toilet bowel are also a sign

>of folic acid deficiency. I know firsthand!

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