Re: Hi Shelli!!

[Guest guest]

Hi PattiSue,

I'm not officially hypo either. I asked the Dr. today to check my thryoid. I

have to go yet for the blood draw. When I asked him to check Ft3 and Ft4 he said

they don't test for ft3 anymore. He said it was an outdated practice to do so. I

should have been more persistent but I'm kind of wimp about stuff like that.

Anyway...as for adrenal symptoms, I definitely have the low motivation. I sleep

about 8 hours a night and am not refreshed when I get up. I wake up between 2

and 4 am a lot. I feel like I never have any energy. I have no sex drive. I get

stressed very easily. I get more tired in the afternoon around 3-4 pm. PMS.

Irritability. These are some of the symptoms that I can think of right now.

There may be more. Symptoms that made me think I might by hypo are dry skin,

breaking fingernails, tired all the time (but not debilitating. I manage to do

the necessary stuff), no weight loss even following a low carb lifestyle. Again,

that's all I can think of right now but I think there's more. I have noticed an

ach around my ribcage. I hadn't heard of that symptom before you mentioned it. I

just want to feel like doing things and not get so stressed out so easily. I'm a

little frustrated, can ya tell? LOL If I find out I'm not hypo will these

products still not harm me?

Thanks,

Shelli

Hi Shelli, Can you tell me your symptoms hun? These were mine:

Felt as if my thyroid meds weren't working....felt hypo again.

No motivation,

very tired, aggitated

insomnia

pain in my rib cage area

itchy scalp,

These were the main ones that I can totally remember an they were enough. I

hated the pain in my ribs..it was terrible and the no motivation was

horrible. I didn't want to do ANYTHING and I am a mother of four,

homeschool my kids and live in a house that is 115 yrs old and needs a ton

of work.....so can ya imagine how depressed I was too?

The great ladies here immediately showed me the reasons I needed adrenal

help. I never went for tests....just knew in my heart that it was what I

needed. I took Enzymatic Therapy (formerly known as Raw Adrenal) Fatigued

to Fantastic. Loved it!! Am now taking Isocort 6 pellets a day...and

it isn't as good as the first one. But each person is different and you

don't know till you try. If you feel you need the help in the adrenal

area...(and it is TOTALLY normal with hypo to need that support) Do it!!

You cannot go wrong it won't hurt you.

Hugs...PattiSue

[Guest guest]

I still have that rib pain, it is awful and I wish it would go away! The worst

spot is right around where my bra sits.

Lynda (in the UK)

Hi Shelli!!

Hi Shelli, Can you tell me your symptoms hun? These were mine:

Felt as if my thyroid meds weren't working....felt hypo again.

No motivation,

very tired, aggitated

insomnia

pain in my rib cage area

itchy scalp,

[Guest guest]

Hi Shelli, From everything that you tell me so far...you sound not only hypo

but adrenal fatigued also. I think that you need to find another doc...he/she

sounds bull headed to the correct type of diagnosis for this disease..and it is

pretty common that is why so many suffer for years for no reason. You are

allowed to medicate yourself....I just want you to understand, sometimes we have

to take matters into our own hands and go with it. I can tell you from

experience that the Armour WILL make you better, and the adrenal support is

worth every penny. I am no doctor, but I can tell you from just your few

symptoms that you have given me...you have a low thyroid function. What state

are you in? Maybe I can lead you to a good doc in your area. I, go to Georgia

to ge my help...I live in Michigan..it is very very sad the way this disease is

treated by the moronic endo's... very sad.

You will suffer if this doc treats you, I have no doubts. Even if his TSH and

T4 test comes back abnormal for you...he'll most likely want to put you on

Synthroid or Levathroid and you DON " T want that hun. You NEED a drug with T3 in

it...Armour...that is ONLY drug I recommend ever. I know that there aremore T3

drugs out there...but Armour is the best place to start unless you have

religious reasons for not taking porcine meds.

I am going to privately send you some info....print it out, give it to your

doc..ya never know it may help.

Hugs...PattiSue

Re: Hi Shelli!!

Hi PattiSue,

I'm not officially hypo either. I asked the Dr. today to check my thryoid. I

have to go yet for the blood draw. When I asked him to check Ft3 and Ft4 he said

they don't test for ft3 anymore. He said it was an outdated practice to do so. I

should have been more persistent but I'm kind of wimp about stuff like that.

Anyway...as for adrenal symptoms, I definitely have the low motivation. I sleep

about 8 hours a night and am not refreshed when I get up. I wake up between 2

and 4 am a lot. I feel like I never have any energy. I have no sex drive. I get

stressed very easily. I get more tired in the afternoon around 3-4 pm. PMS.

Irritability. These are some of the symptoms that I can think of right now.

There may be more. Symptoms that made me think I might by hypo are dry skin,

breaking fingernails, tired all the time (but not debilitating. I manage to do

the necessary stuff), no weight loss even following a low carb lifestyle. Again,

that's all I can think of right now but I think there's more. I have noticed an

ach around my ribcage. I hadn't heard of that symptom before you mentioned it. I

just want to feel like doing things and not get so stressed out so easily. I'm a

little frustrated, can ya tell? LOL If I find out I'm not hypo will these

products still not harm me?

Thanks,

Shelli

Hi Shelli, Can you tell me your symptoms hun? These were mine:

Felt as if my thyroid meds weren't working....felt hypo again.

No motivation,

very tired, aggitated

insomnia

pain in my rib cage area

itchy scalp,

These were the main ones that I can totally remember an they were enough. I

hated the pain in my ribs..it was terrible and the no motivation was

horrible. I didn't want to do ANYTHING and I am a mother of four,

homeschool my kids and live in a house that is 115 yrs old and needs a ton

of work.....so can ya imagine how depressed I was too?

The great ladies here immediately showed me the reasons I needed adrenal

help. I never went for tests....just knew in my heart that it was what I

needed. I took Enzymatic Therapy (formerly known as Raw Adrenal) Fatigued

to Fantastic. Loved it!! Am now taking Isocort 6 pellets a day...and

it isn't as good as the first one. But each person is different and you

don't know till you try. If you feel you need the help in the adrenal

area...(and it is TOTALLY normal with hypo to need that support) Do it!!

You cannot go wrong it won't hurt you.

Hugs...PattiSue

[Guest guest]

> Does anyone know where I can find proof that ft3 should be tested

from a " reputable " source? In other words, something a Dr. would

consider reputable. I hate to have to find a new Dr. I don't want to

go to someone else just to have them think the same way. This is

frustrating!!!

> Shelli

Yes, there are many good sources in the FILES on this site. Dommisse

is one and there are others.

Janie

[Guest guest]

under the right bra are in front is gallbladder or liver

Hi Shelli!!

Hi Shelli, Can you tell me your symptoms hun? These were mine:

Felt as if my thyroid meds weren't working....felt hypo again.

No motivation,

very tired, aggitated

insomnia

pain in my rib cage area

itchy scalp,

[Guest guest]

Shelli,

I get palpitations. In fact, I have had them since I was a teen (this

is truly when I believe the Hashi's slowly started to emerge). I have

been to the ER with heart rates recorded at just over 260 beats per

minute. I have been on beta-blockers etc... Interestingly, I have been

to a couple of different cardiologists (just from moving etc...), and

I have had a different diagnosis each time: PAT, SVT, and mitral valve

prolapse. Now that the diagnosis of Thyroid disease (Hashimoto's) has

been determined, I am almost certain it is from Hashi's. When all my

hypo signs began, so did the Heart palps (I also get sipped beats

which I think are called those PVC nodes or something). I had a holter

monitor for 24 hrs which recorded tons! So, yes, you can by hypo and

have these. They appear to be quite common in Hashi's/hypo patients as

one more symptom (although less common than fatigue, hair falling out,

and dry skin).

> Thanks so much. I am in Illinois. Boy, you go a long way! Please do

send the information you spoke of. My doctor pretty open minded so I

was surprised when he was so stubborn about this. I told him I read a

lot that T3 needed to be checked too. He asked where I had read that.

He actually seemed curious not sarcastic. I'm not defending him. I

just don't want it to sound like I'm slamming him. He is my gyno so I

don't know how familiar they are with this type of thing. One other

thing that I started getting in Dec. was this feeling in my heart like

my heart was beating harder every so often for a beat or two. He said

this is PVC. Could this be related to hypothyroidism or adrenal

fatigue? I've heard of hypERthyroid people getting palpatations but

I'm not sure this is the same thing.

> Shelli

> Re: Hi Shelli!!

>

>

> Hi PattiSue,

> I'm not officially hypo either. I asked the Dr. today to check

my thryoid. I have to go yet for the blood draw. When I asked him to

check Ft3 and Ft4 he said they don't test for ft3 anymore. He said it

was an outdated practice to do so. I should have been more persistent

but I'm kind of wimp about stuff like that. Anyway...as for adrenal

symptoms, I definitely have the low motivation. I sleep about 8 hours

a night and am not refreshed when I get up. I wake up between 2 and 4

am a lot. I feel like I never have any energy. I have no sex drive. I

get stressed very easily. I get more tired in the afternoon around 3-4

pm. PMS. Irritability. These are some of the symptoms that I can think

of right now. There may be more. Symptoms that made me think I might

by hypo are dry skin, breaking fingernails, tired all the time (but

not debilitating. I manage to do the necessary stuff), no weight loss

even following a low carb lifestyle. Again, that's all I can think of

right now but I think there's more. I have noticed an ach around my

ribcage. I hadn't heard of that symptom before you mentioned it. I

just want to feel like doing things and not get so stressed out so

easily. I'm a little frustrated, can ya tell? LOL If I find out I'm

not hypo will these products still not harm me?

> Thanks,

> Shelli

>

>

>

>

> Hi Shelli, Can you tell me your symptoms hun? These were mine:

>

> Felt as if my thyroid meds weren't working....felt hypo again.

> No motivation,

> very tired, aggitated

> insomnia

> pain in my rib cage area

> itchy scalp,

> These were the main ones that I can totally remember an they

were enough. I

> hated the pain in my ribs..it was terrible and the no

motivation was

> horrible. I didn't want to do ANYTHING and I am a mother of four,

> homeschool my kids and live in a house that is 115 yrs old and

needs a ton

> of work.....so can ya imagine how depressed I was too?

> The great ladies here immediately showed me the reasons I

needed adrenal

> help. I never went for tests....just knew in my heart that it

was what I

> needed. I took Enzymatic Therapy (formerly known as Raw

Adrenal) Fatigued

> to Fantastic. Loved it!! Am now taking Isocort 6

pellets a day...and

> it isn't as good as the first one. But each person is

different and you

> don't know till you try. If you feel you need the help in the

adrenal

> area...(and it is TOTALLY normal with hypo to need that

support) Do it!!

> You cannot go wrong it won't hurt you.

> Hugs...PattiSue

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Low ferritin makes my heart beat rapidly so does hyper thyroid from too much

thyroid meds.

Re: Hi Shelli!!

>

>

> Hi PattiSue,

> I'm not officially hypo either. I asked the Dr. today to check

my thryoid. I have to go yet for the blood draw. When I asked him to

check Ft3 and Ft4 he said they don't test for ft3 anymore. He said it

was an outdated practice to do so. I should have been more persistent

but I'm kind of wimp about stuff like that. Anyway...as for adrenal

symptoms, I definitely have the low motivation. I sleep about 8 hours

a night and am not refreshed when I get up. I wake up between 2 and 4

am a lot. I feel like I never have any energy. I have no sex drive. I

get stressed very easily. I get more tired in the afternoon around 3-4

pm. PMS. Irritability. These are some of the symptoms that I can think

of right now. There may be more. Symptoms that made me think I might

by hypo are dry skin, breaking fingernails, tired all the time (but

not debilitating. I manage to do the necessary stuff), no weight loss

even following a low carb lifestyle. Again, that's all I can think of

right now but I think there's more. I have noticed an ach around my

ribcage. I hadn't heard of that symptom before you mentioned it. I

just want to feel like doing things and not get so stressed out so

easily. I'm a little frustrated, can ya tell? LOL If I find out I'm

not hypo will these products still not harm me?

> Thanks,

> Shelli

>

>

>

>

> Hi Shelli, Can you tell me your symptoms hun? These were mine:

>

> Felt as if my thyroid meds weren't working....felt hypo again.

> No motivation,

> very tired, aggitated

> insomnia

> pain in my rib cage area

> itchy scalp,

> These were the main ones that I can totally remember an they

were enough. I

> hated the pain in my ribs..it was terrible and the no

motivation was

> horrible. I didn't want to do ANYTHING and I am a mother of four,

> homeschool my kids and live in a house that is 115 yrs old and

needs a ton

> of work.....so can ya imagine how depressed I was too?

> The great ladies here immediately showed me the reasons I

needed adrenal

> help. I never went for tests....just knew in my heart that it

was what I

> needed. I took Enzymatic Therapy (formerly known as Raw

Adrenal) Fatigued

> to Fantastic. Loved it!! Am now taking Isocort 6

pellets a day...and

> it isn't as good as the first one. But each person is

different and you

> don't know till you try. If you feel you need the help in the

adrenal

> area...(and it is TOTALLY normal with hypo to need that

support) Do it!!

> You cannot go wrong it won't hurt you.

> Hugs...PattiSue

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

OH Yes!! heart palps are definately hypo symptoms!! Mine are all but a memory.

I am very thankful for that too. You are very fortunate that you live in

Illinois. If you find that your doc won't give you the care you need I have a

doc for you. If you find that you cannot get the best care...I'll make sure to

give you the docs name...just ask vp.labellarte@... that is my

personal email addy.

Hugs..PattiSue

Re: Hi Shelli!!

Hi PattiSue,

I'm not officially hypo either. I asked the Dr. today to check my thryoid.

I have to go yet for the blood draw. When I asked him to check Ft3 and Ft4 he

said they don't test for ft3 anymore. He said it was an outdated practice to do

so. I should have been more persistent but I'm kind of wimp about stuff like

that. Anyway...as for adrenal symptoms, I definitely have the low motivation. I

sleep about 8 hours a night and am not refreshed when I get up. I wake up

between 2 and 4 am a lot. I feel like I never have any energy. I have no sex

drive. I get stressed very easily. I get more tired in the afternoon around 3-4

pm. PMS. Irritability. These are some of the symptoms that I can think of right

now. There may be more. Symptoms that made me think I might by hypo are dry

skin, breaking fingernails, tired all the time (but not debilitating. I manage

to do the necessary stuff), no weight loss even following a low carb lifestyle.

Again, that's all I can think of right now but I think there's more. I have

noticed an ach around my ribcage. I hadn't heard of that symptom before you

mentioned it. I just want to feel like doing things and not get so stressed out

so easily. I'm a little frustrated, can ya tell? LOL If I find out I'm not hypo

will these products still not harm me?

Thanks,

Shelli

Hi Shelli, Can you tell me your symptoms hun? These were mine:

Felt as if my thyroid meds weren't working....felt hypo again.

No motivation,

very tired, aggitated

insomnia

pain in my rib cage area

itchy scalp,

These were the main ones that I can totally remember an they were

enough. I

hated the pain in my ribs..it was terrible and the no motivation was

horrible. I didn't want to do ANYTHING and I am a mother of four,

homeschool my kids and live in a house that is 115 yrs old and needs a

ton

of work.....so can ya imagine how depressed I was too?

The great ladies here immediately showed me the reasons I needed adrenal

help. I never went for tests....just knew in my heart that it was what

I

needed. I took Enzymatic Therapy (formerly known as Raw Adrenal)

Fatigued

to Fantastic. Loved it!! Am now taking Isocort 6 pellets a

day...and

it isn't as good as the first one. But each person is different and

you

don't know till you try. If you feel you need the help in the adrenal

area...(and it is TOTALLY normal with hypo to need that support) Do

it!!

You cannot go wrong it won't hurt you.

Hugs...PattiSue

[Guest guest]

AMEN!!!!!!

Re: Hi Shelli!!

>>When I asked him to check Ft3 and Ft4 he said they don't test for

ft3 anymore. He said it was an outdated practice to do so.

We NEED to keep a file on the most ridiculous things docs have ever

said. This one takes the cake!!! Shelli, you REALLY need to find a

better doc. You will stay ill with this one.

Janie

[Guest guest]

My pain was mostly on the right side right underneath the bottom of the bra. I

had to not wear one...it irritated it so much. But the pain was there whether

or not I had it on or not. It was very bad. So glad the pain is gone.

Hugs..PattiSue

Hi Shelli!!

Hi Shelli, Can you tell me your symptoms hun? These were mine:

Felt as if my thyroid meds weren't working....felt hypo again.

No motivation,

very tired, aggitated

insomnia

pain in my rib cage area

itchy scalp,

[Guest guest]

Just thought I'd take the mystery out of some of these cardiac symptoms for

those

who have them. This is just basic stuff and is really more complicated and goes

much

more in depth. Just don't mess with the heart. If symptoms persist, one MUST

see a

qualified doctor.

PVCs are Premature Ventricular Contractions and usually signal a diseased heart

and

even more common, electrolyte imbalance -- usually potassium, but also from too

much calcium and/or not enough magnesium in the blood. Electrolyte imbalance

makes the heart more " irritable " and therefore, more likely to have these

abnormal

beats. For muscles, of which the heart is one, calcium is an " exciter " and

magnesium

is a " relaxer. " That's why it's important to have that 2:1 ratio of calcium to

magnesium. Thyroid disease, via it's " balancing " function, and adrenal

dysfunction

via the adrenaline/cortisol hormones, could certainly cause PVCs, as has

experienced.

A PAT is a Premature Atrial Contraction. The heart's normal pacemaker, the

sinoatrial (SA) node, puts out a premature beat or " extra " beat. Sino-atrial as

in sinus

rhythm (the " normal " rhythm of the heart) originating in the right atrium of the

heart.

PATs aren't as serious as PVCs. Again, irritability of the heart muscle can

cause them

if an area of the atrium other than the SA node is irritable and spontaneously

sends

out an electrical beat independently of the SA node.

Mitral valve prolapse gives one an " extra " heart sound because the valve isn't

closing

like it normally would. It's easy to hear with a stethascope. But an EKG is

needed to

actually " see " what is going on, whether it's a PAT or a PVC. Can't always know

for

sure just listening to the heart.

SVT is Supraventricular Tachycardia. The tachycardia (rapid heart rate) is

originating

above (supra) the ventricles. This is an irritable heart and the SA node is

sending out

its electrical impulses waayyyyy too often. SVT isn't good in general but is

better than

tachycardia originating in the ventricles (VT or ventricular tachycardia or

Vtach)

because VT is a killer. Your ventricles are essentially unable to pump out

adequate

blood into the circulation and one will pass out from lack of blood to the

brain. Then

the rest of the body becomes involved and well, you get the picture. VT more

than

likely will progress rapidly to ventricular fibrillation (Vfib) and here, your

heart is just

jiggling like a bowl of jello. Without emergency intervention (defibrillation,

emergency cardiac medications) death occurs in just a few minutes if not

immediately. That's why so many public places now have AEDs (automatic external

defibrillators). In a Vtach or Vfib situation, getting the normal heart rhythm

reestablished is the NUMBER ONE priority. So if you ever see someone just go

down

(pass out) get one of those AEDs if at all possible -- they're available more

than one

would think. It's a scary situation but they're sooooo easy to use as they show

you

exactly where to put the patches and then the machine talks you through the

whole

thing. All you need to do is push a button when the machine tells you to. My

own

father's life was spared by one of these wonderful little machines!

(Just my little nurse's public information message for the week!)

A palpitation is the sensation of having one or more of these " extra " beats.

One really

can't tell where they're coming from without an EKG.

But as thyroid patients, these are all real possibilities for us if we're not

treated

properly because the thyroid/adrenals are soooo important for hormonal balance

throughout the body.

So, yes, Shelli, your thyroid disease probably caused your PVCs/palpitations.

And

before I started taking an adrenal supplement, my own heart would beat REALLY

HARD, especially when I would lay down to go to sleep. The rate wouldn't

increase

that much but the strength of the beating was really scary. That sensation is

about

90% gone now, just as it was after just ONE day of adrenal supplementation.

NOBODY (ie any doctor) can tell me the two aren't related!

Janet

> Shelli,

>

> I get palpitations. In fact, I have had them since I was a teen (this

> is truly when I believe the Hashi's slowly started to emerge). I have

> been to the ER with heart rates recorded at just over 260 beats per

> minute. I have been on beta-blockers etc... Interestingly, I have been

> to a couple of different cardiologists (just from moving etc...), and

> I have had a different diagnosis each time: PAT, SVT, and mitral valve

> prolapse. Now that the diagnosis of Thyroid disease (Hashimoto's) has

> been determined, I am almost certain it is from Hashi's. When all my

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Janet! Great information. Diane, Could you put this info in the

files section for future reference?

Blessings,

Debbie K.

Re: Hi Shelli!!

Just thought I'd take the mystery out of some of these cardiac symptoms

for those

who have them. This is just basic stuff and is really more complicated

and goes much

more in depth. Just don't mess with the heart. If symptoms persist,

one MUST see a

qualified doctor.

[Guest guest]

Just thought I'd take the mystery out of some of these cardiac symptoms for

those

who have them. This is just basic stuff and is really more complicated and goes

much

more in depth. Just don't mess with the heart. If symptoms persist, one MUST

see a

qualified doctor.

PVCs are Premature Ventricular Contractions and usually signal a diseased heart

and

even more common, electrolyte imbalance -- usually potassium, but also from too

much calcium and/or not enough magnesium in the blood. Electrolyte imbalance

makes the heart more " irritable " and therefore, more likely to have these

abnormal

beats. For muscles, of which the heart is one, calcium is an " exciter " and

magnesium

is a " relaxer. " That's why it's important to have that 2:1 ratio of calcium to

magnesium. Thyroid disease, via its " balancing " function, and adrenal

dysfunction via

the adrenaline/cortisol hormones, could certainly cause PVCs, as has

experienced.

A PAC is a Premature Atrial Contraction. The heart's normal pacemaker, the

sinoatrial

(SA) node, puts out a premature beat or " extra " beat. Sinoatrial as in sinus

(sino)

rhythm (the " normal " rhythm of the heart) originating in the right atrium of the

heart.

PACs aren't as serious as PVCs. Again, irritability of the heart muscle can

cause them

if an area of the atrium other than the SA node is irritable and spontaneously

sends

out an electrical impulse signaling the heart to beat independently of the SA

node.

But an EKG is needed to actually " see " what is going on, whether it's a PAC or a

PVC.

Can't always know for sure just listening to the heart.

SVT is Supraventricular Tachycardia. Sometimes it's called PSVT in the medical

community, meaning Paroxysmal Supraventricular Tachycardia. One will also hear

it

called PAT, Paroxysmal Atrial Tachycardia. Paroxysmal meaning it comes and

goes.

The tachycardia (rapid heart rate) is originating above (supra) the ventricles

in the

atrium. This is an irritable heart and the SA node is sending out its

electrical

impulses waayyyyy too often. Sometimes coughing forcefully or holding one's

breath

can reverse this. SVT isn't good in general but is better than tachycardia

originating

in the ventricles (VT or ventricular tachycardia or Vtach) because VT is a

killer. Your

ventricles are essentially unable to pump out adequate blood into the

circulation and

one will pass out from lack of blood to the brain. Then the rest of the body

becomes

involved and well, you get the picture. VT more than likely will progress

rapidly to

ventricular fibrillation (Vfib) and here, your heart is just jiggling like a

bowl of jello.

Without emergency intervention (defibrillation, CPR, emergency cardiac

medications)

death occurs in just a few minutes if not immediately. That's why so many

public

places now have AEDs (automatic external defibrillators). In a Vtach or Vfib

situation,

getting the normal heart rhythm reestablished is the NUMBER ONE priority. So if

you

ever see someone just go down (pass out) get one of those AEDs if at all

possible --

they're available more than one would think. Our small mall in town here has

TWO!

It's a scary situation but they're sooooo easy to use as they show you exactly

where to

put the patches and then the machine talks you through the whole thing. All you

need to do is push a button when the machine tells you to. My own father's life

was

spared by one of these wonderful little machines!

A palpitation is the sensation of having one or more of these " extra " beats.

One really

can't tell where they're coming from without an EKG. But as thyroid patients,

these

are all real possibilities for us if we're not treated properly because the

thyroid/

adrenals are soooo important for hormonal, fluid and electrolyte balance

throughout

the body.

Mitral valve prolapse gives one an " extra " heart sound, or murmer, because the

valve

isn't closing like it normally would. It's easy to hear with a stethascope and

is

sometimes a clicking sound but more often a whooshing sound. Because the valve

is

actually " leaking " (regurgitating) blood back into the atrium (top chambers,

right and

left), the blood being pumped to the lungs (right) and the rest of the body

(left) is less

than normal with the implications that implies. The mitral valve (the most

common

valve to have a problem), is between the left atrium and the left ventricle and

therefore, the amount of blood ejected from the left ventricle (cardiac output),

which

sends its supply to the brain and the rest of the body, is compromised or less

than

what is needed.

(Just my little nurse's public information message for the week!)

So, yes, Shelli and , your thyroid disease probably caused your PVCs/

palpitations. And before I started taking an adrenal supplement, my own heart

would

beat REALLY HARD, especially when I would lay down to go to sleep. The rate

wouldn't increase that much but the strength of the beating was really scary.

That

sensation is about 90% gone now, just as it was after just ONE day of adrenal

supplementation. NOBODY (ie any doctor) can tell me the two aren't related!

Janet

>

>

> > Shelli,

> >

> > I get palpitations. In fact, I have had them since I was a teen (this

> > is truly when I believe the Hashi's slowly started to emerge). I have

> > been to the ER with heart rates recorded at just over 260 beats per

> > minute. I have been on beta-blockers etc... Interestingly, I have been

> > to a couple of different cardiologists (just from moving etc...), and

> > I have had a different diagnosis each time: PAT, SVT, and mitral valve

> > prolapse. Now that the diagnosis of Thyroid disease (Hashimoto's) has

> > been determined, I am almost certain it is from Hashi's. When all my

> >