RE: Sugar is evil!

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How crazy has this world become when parents have to justify why they would choose to feed their children meat, fruit and vegetables????????

The next time someone gives you a hard time about the dietary choices you make for your child ask them if they'd let their children smoke cigarettes......when they answer "no" with a look of horror, explain to them that many of the chemicals in the foods they allow their children to eat are the same, just as bad, and sometimes even worse than those found in cigarettes. That'll shut 'em up.To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, June 11, 2010

11:30:07 PMSubject: Sugar is evil!

My 8 year old son has an extremely low tolerance for sugar. If he has more than about 10-15 grams of sugar in an entire day (including all foods and drinks) then every issue he has gets significantly worse within hours - tantrums, defiance, OCD, cold sores, ear infections, asthma, etc. If I didn't know better I would think he was allergic to sugar. Is this common in these kids? I know that my son has yeast and viral issues, is this why his tolerance is so low?

I'm so frustrated and find it almost impossible to keep his sugar level down low enough every day.

On top of it, I am soooo sick of dealing with people acting like I'm depriving my child. I've had to stop speaking to some of my own family members over this since they were practically accusing me of child abuse for not letting my son eat whatever he wants. It's really sad when you are trying to save your child and people view it as the opposite.

Thanks for listening and any input :-)

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Hey Tasha, Your post struck me -- because I just read all those symptoms in this book I am reading...so hang with me for a minute. I could see why you would think that sugar is evil - it's in everything, and it seems impossible to keep it out of your child's diet. Something to consider - I am in the middle of reading about the Feingold Diet -- and a lot of your symptoms seem to match the issue of intolerance to Salicylates. (although a lot of these things do). One of the Mom's in the book was convinced too that it was sugar intolerance (not to say that she was incorrect) -- but it was actually an allergy to a food, and once that food was removed along with the salicylates - they got WOW that they were looking for. (all those symptoms went away). I know with my son his face rash was gone (within 4 days of elimination). I thought it was yeast or eczema (as it got worse with temperature/some foods, etc.)...(my son does have yeast issues) However, once I removed those foods his tantrums and excess energy seemed to disappear. Since he doesn't have to deal with this issue, it might be easier to address his yeast issues at this point (as we have been largely unsuccessful in getting it knocked out, but have been largely successful in all other areas.)I started my son on an additional elimination (besides the gf/cf/sf corn and IGg items removed) with amazing results. And as overwhelming at it could be, actually, it wasn't that difficult to implement. (as we are used to removing things!) -- we saw results in 4 days - which seems to be his magic number. With the children in the book, the most noticeable results came within 14 days.The book is by Ben Feingold and it's called Why is your child hyperactive? - the title can be a little misleading as he discusses the allergy aspects, and how he came to figure out these issues. But he discusses the alleviation of the symptoms you mention. It might be worth looking into it briefly to see if your child could benefit. (and this particular sensitivity affects boys more than girls - something crazy like for every 10 boys - 1 girl.) laura To: mb12 valtrex From: tasha70999@...Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 03:30:07 +0000Subject: Sugar is evil!

My 8 year old son has an extremely low tolerance for sugar. If he has more than about 10-15 grams of sugar in an entire day (including all foods and drinks) then every issue he has gets significantly worse within hours - tantrums, defiance, OCD, cold sores, ear infections, asthma, etc. If I didn't know better I would think he was allergic to sugar. Is this common in these kids? I know that my son has yeast and viral issues, is this why his tolerance is so low?

I'm so frustrated and find it almost impossible to keep his sugar level down low enough every day.

On top of it, I am soooo sick of dealing with people acting like I'm depriving my child. I've had to stop speaking to some of my own family members over this since they were practically accusing me of child abuse for not letting my son eat whatever he wants. It's really sad when you are trying to save your child and people view it as the opposite.

Thanks for listening and any input :-)

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I second everything has said about the salicylate sensitivity. Subject: RE: Sugar is evil!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Friday, June 11, 2010, 11:20 PM

Hey Tasha, Your post struck me -- because I just read all those symptoms in this book I am reading...so hang with me for a minute. I could see why you would think that sugar is evil - it's in everything, and it seems impossible to keep it out of your child's diet. Something to consider - I am in the middle of reading about the Feingold Diet -- and a lot of your symptoms seem to match the issue of intolerance to Salicylates. (although a lot of these things do). One of the Mom's in the book was convinced too that it was sugar intolerance (not to say that she was incorrect) -- but it was actually an allergy to a food, and once that food was removed along with the salicylates - they got WOW that they were looking for. (all those symptoms went away). I know with my son his face rash was gone (within 4 days of elimination) . I thought it was yeast or eczema (as it got worse with

temperature/ some foods, etc.)...(my son does have yeast issues) However, once I removed those foods his tantrums and excess energy seemed to disappear. Since he doesn't have to deal with this issue, it might be easier to address his yeast issues at this point (as we have been largely unsuccessful in getting it knocked out, but have been largely successful in all other areas.)I started my son on an additional elimination (besides the gf/cf/sf corn and IGg items removed) with amazing results. And as overwhelming at it could be, actually, it wasn't that difficult to implement. (as we are used to removing things!) -- we saw results in 4 days - which seems to be his magic number. With the children in the book, the most noticeable results came within 14 days.The book is by Ben Feingold and it's called Why is your child hyperactive? - the title can be a little misleading as he discusses the allergy aspects, and

how he came to figure out these issues. But he discusses the alleviation of the symptoms you mention. It might be worth looking into it briefly to see if your child could benefit. (and this particular sensitivity affects boys more than girls - something crazy like for every 10 boys - 1 girl.) laura To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comFrom: tasha70999yahoo (DOT) comDate: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 03:30:07 +0000Subject: Sugar is evil!

My 8 year old son has an extremely low tolerance for sugar. If he has more than about 10-15 grams of sugar in an entire day (including all foods and drinks) then every issue he has gets significantly worse within hours - tantrums, defiance, OCD, cold sores, ear infections, asthma, etc. If I didn't know better I would think he was allergic to sugar. Is this common in these kids? I know that my son has yeast and viral issues, is this why his tolerance is so low?

I'm so frustrated and find it almost impossible to keep his sugar level down low enough every day.

On top of it, I am soooo sick of dealing with people acting like I'm depriving my child. I've had to stop speaking to some of my own family members over this since they were practically accusing me of child abuse for not letting my son eat whatever he wants. It's really sad when you are trying to save your child and people view it as the opposite.

Thanks for listening and any input :-)

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We've purchased the Feingold materials, and we are not 100% on it yet. I planned starting on Thursday, most likely it will end up being tomorrow since we've had a bunch of junk going on. But anyway, we are mostly on it. :-)

One of the first principles is to get the kids off all the artificials - flavors, colors, sweeteners, preservatives. (Actually, some of the sweeteners might be ok, haven't checked them all) You have probably already done ALL that!

The second step is to move to only Stage 1 fruits and veggies. I think it wouldn't be fair if I typed out the whole list :-) since it is in the packet of materials that costs 80$ (includes a yr worth of newsletter, updates, web board support etc)

But here's a couple hints ;-) We got rid of the apple, orange and grape juices. We are using organic, lightly sweetened lemonade (sometimes just " Simply Lemonade " from the " Simply Orange " line of juices) - I have not verified that this is officially FG approved - and pineapple juice. Our fav fruits right now are melons, not berries. :-)

The difference in my kids is AMAZING, and like I said, we are not even on it 100%. It is so amazing, I am kicking myself for not doing this 1.5 years ago when I first heard of the diet... I was too scared to take away " all their fav fruits. "

I proved to myself some of the culprits by allowing my kids to have berries last weekend. OMG. Yeah, we were back on the right stuff come Monday. :-)The best part, I think, is that you see the changes immediately. It's not like GF where you have to wait 6 months and then wonder if it's really the dietary changes or something else... this really IS obvious.

Anyway, if you can't afford the materials right now, make the juice changes. And snack fruit. See if you notice a difference and if you do, jump in with both feet. :-)(Another thing to consider are enzymes, like " no-fenol " and " phenol assist " )

 

Hey Tasha, Your post struck me -- because I just read all those symptoms in this book I am reading...so hang with me for a minute.  I could see why you would think that sugar is evil - it's in everything, and it seems impossible to keep it out of your child's diet. 

Something to consider - I am in the middle of reading about the Feingold Diet -- and a lot of your symptoms seem to match the issue of intolerance to Salicylates.  (although a lot of these things do).  One of the Mom's in the book was convinced too that it was sugar intolerance (not to say that she was incorrect) -- but it was actually an allergy to a food, and once that food was removed along with the salicylates - they got WOW that they were looking for.   (all those symptoms went away). 

I know with my son his face rash was gone (within 4 days of elimination).  I thought it was yeast or eczema (as it got worse with temperature/some foods, etc.)...(my son does have yeast issues) However, once I removed those foods his tantrums and excess energy seemed to disappear.   Since he doesn't have to deal with this issue, it might be easier to address his yeast issues at this point (as we have been largely unsuccessful in getting it knocked out, but have been largely successful in all other areas.)

I started my son on an additional elimination (besides the gf/cf/sf corn and IGg items removed) with amazing results.  And as overwhelming at it could be, actually, it wasn't that difficult to implement.  (as we are used to removing things!) -- we saw results in 4 days - which seems to be his magic number.  With the children in the book, the most noticeable results came within 14 days.

The book is by Ben Feingold and it's called Why is your child hyperactive? - the title can be a little misleading as he discusses the allergy aspects, and how he came to figure out these issues.  But he discusses the alleviation of the symptoms you mention.   It might be worth looking into it briefly to see if your child could benefit.  (and this particular sensitivity affects boys more than girls - something crazy like for every 10 boys - 1 girl.)

laura To: mb12 valtrex From: tasha70999@...

Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 03:30:07 +0000Subject: Sugar is evil!

 

My 8 year old son has an extremely low tolerance for sugar. If he has more than about 10-15 grams of sugar in an entire day (including all foods and drinks) then every issue he has gets significantly worse within hours - tantrums, defiance, OCD, cold sores, ear infections, asthma, etc. If I didn't know better I would think he was allergic to sugar. Is this common in these kids? I know that my son has yeast and viral issues, is this why his tolerance is so low?

I'm so frustrated and find it almost impossible to keep his sugar level down low enough every day.

On top of it, I am soooo sick of dealing with people acting like I'm depriving my child. I've had to stop speaking to some of my own family members over this since they were practically accusing me of child abuse for not letting my son eat whatever he wants. It's really sad when you are trying to save your child and people view it as the opposite.

Thanks for listening and any input :-)

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Hi laura,When you're gf/cf/sf, what things do you use for sweets?Agave? Honey ? Are those no-nos too?/tSent from my iPad mini

Hey Tasha, Your post struck me -- because I just read all those symptoms in this book I am reading...so hang with me for a minute. I could see why you would think that sugar is evil - it's in everything, and it seems impossible to keep it out of your child's diet. Something to consider - I am in the middle of reading about the Feingold Diet -- and a lot of your symptoms seem to match the issue of intolerance to Salicylates. (although a lot of these things do). One of the Mom's in the book was convinced too that it was sugar intolerance (not to say that she was incorrect) -- but it was actually an allergy to a food, and once that food was removed along with the salicylates - they got WOW that they were looking for. (all those symptoms went away). I know with my son his face rash was gone (within 4 days of elimination). I thought it was yeast or eczema (as it got worse with temperature/some foods, etc.)...(my son does have yeast issues) However, once I removed those foods his tantrums and excess energy seemed to disappear. Since he doesn't have to deal with this issue, it might be easier to address his yeast issues at this point (as we have been largely unsuccessful in getting it knocked out, but have been largely successful in all other areas.)I started my son on an additional elimination (besides the gf/cf/sf corn and IGg items removed) with amazing results. And as overwhelming at it could be, actually, it wasn't that difficult to implement. (as we are used to removing things!) -- we saw results in 4 days - which seems to be his magic number. With the children in the book, the most noticeable results came within 14 days.The book is by Ben Feingold and it's called Why is your child hyperactive? - the title can be a little misleading as he discusses the allergy aspects, and how he came to figure out these issues. But he discusses the alleviation of the symptoms you mention. It might be worth looking into it briefly to see if your child could benefit. (and this particular sensitivity affects boys more than girls - something crazy like for every 10 boys - 1 girl.) laura To: mb12 valtrex From: tasha70999Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 03:30:07 +0000Subject: Sugar is evil!

My 8 year old son has an extremely low tolerance for sugar. If he has more than about 10-15 grams of sugar in an entire day (including all foods and drinks) then every issue he has gets significantly worse within hours - tantrums, defiance, OCD, cold sores, ear infections, asthma, etc. If I didn't know better I would think he was allergic to sugar. Is this common in these kids? I know that my son has yeast and viral issues, is this why his tolerance is so low?

I'm so frustrated and find it almost impossible to keep his sugar level down low enough every day.

On top of it, I am soooo sick of dealing with people acting like I'm depriving my child. I've had to stop speaking to some of my own family members over this since they were practically accusing me of child abuse for not letting my son eat whatever he wants. It's really sad when you are trying to save your child and people view it as the opposite.

Thanks for listening and any input :-)

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There are gf/sf/cf snacky foods, I mean the grain type that kids are used to eating. But relying on them isn't good for yeast issues either, because they are mostly rice flour.

 

Hi laura,When you're gf/cf/sf, what things do you use for sweets?Agave? Honey ? Are those no-nos too?/tSent from my iPad mini

 

Hey Tasha, Your post struck me -- because I just read all those symptoms in this book I am reading...so hang with me for a minute.  I could see why you would think that sugar is evil - it's in everything, and it seems impossible to keep it out of your child's diet. 

Something to consider - I am in the middle of reading about the Feingold Diet -- and a lot of your symptoms seem to match the issue of intolerance to Salicylates.  (although a lot of these things do).  One of the Mom's in the book was convinced too that it was sugar intolerance (not to say that she was incorrect) -- but it was actually an allergy to a food, and once that food was removed along with the salicylates - they got WOW that they were looking for.   (all those symptoms went away). 

I know with my son his face rash was gone (within 4 days of elimination).  I thought it was yeast or eczema (as it got worse with temperature/some foods, etc.)...(my son does have yeast issues) However, once I removed those foods his tantrums and excess energy seemed to disappear.   Since he doesn't have to deal with this issue, it might be easier to address his yeast issues at this point (as we have been largely unsuccessful in getting it knocked out, but have been largely successful in all other areas.)

I started my son on an additional elimination (besides the gf/cf/sf corn and IGg items removed) with amazing results.  And as overwhelming at it could be, actually, it wasn't that difficult to implement.  (as we are used to removing things!) -- we saw results in 4 days - which seems to be his magic number.  With the children in the book, the most noticeable results came within 14 days.

The book is by Ben Feingold and it's called Why is your child hyperactive? - the title can be a little misleading as he discusses the allergy aspects, and how he came to figure out these issues.  But he discusses the alleviation of the symptoms you mention.   It might be worth looking into it briefly to see if your child could benefit.  (and this particular sensitivity affects boys more than girls - something crazy like for every 10 boys - 1 girl.)

laura To: mb12 valtrex From: tasha70999@...

Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 03:30:07 +0000Subject: Sugar is evil!

 

My 8 year old son has an extremely low tolerance for sugar. If he has more than about 10-15 grams of sugar in an entire day (including all foods and drinks) then every issue he has gets significantly worse within hours - tantrums, defiance, OCD, cold sores, ear infections, asthma, etc. If I didn't know better I would think he was allergic to sugar. Is this common in these kids? I know that my son has yeast and viral issues, is this why his tolerance is so low?

I'm so frustrated and find it almost impossible to keep his sugar level down low enough every day.

On top of it, I am soooo sick of dealing with people acting like I'm depriving my child. I've had to stop speaking to some of my own family members over this since they were practically accusing me of child abuse for not letting my son eat whatever he wants. It's really sad when you are trying to save your child and people view it as the opposite.

Thanks for listening and any input :-)

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My kids would often eat 'fruit' or drink juice for their sweets. Because I didn't limit them. Honestly, their diets at the beginning were very limited (VERY) and therefore, I felt it was more important to eat and get nutrition (by any means) than it was to limit sugar or feed yeast. (Okay, not a popular thing to say, but honest, nonetheless..)We still have yeast issues, however, I feel we are in a good place at this point to address yeast. That being said, my children now have a much more varied diet, are willing to try new things, and eat lots of vegetables and different herbs. I do juice for them everyday - as I believe it's great for enzymes, nutrition, etc. - I do use organic fruits and vegetables to juice with. ...and Toni is correct, Rice based products tend to feed yeast. I combat that with natural yeast fighters (and I have used prescription meds without much success). That being said, it really hasn't gotten in the way for our particular journey, I know with some, it's a major battle, which keeps them from recovery. Both my child and my brother have made significant progress over the past year. So yeast hasn't slowed us a bit, however, I do think to get us where we need to be, it definitely needs to be addressed. Our focus was mostly on detox and nutrition. (as my children were not in a great percentile for height and weight) - for us - the better the detox, and nutrition, the height and weight came, along with a whole host of wonderful things. I use/have used in recipes and just for flavor: organic sugar (Florida Crystals, USDA organic) maple syrup (real, organic), agave nectar, honey (manuka -- this is a special honey as it is not only sweet, but has medicinal purposes - google it..very interesting stuff). I have used Stevia and Xylitol (sweeteners that are herbs) with some success. I tend to not use them for baking...as it just doesn't get the taste right. laura To: mb12 valtrex From: bellbaby@...Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:50:40 -0400Subject: Re: Sugar is evil!

There are gf/sf/cf snacky foods, I mean the grain type that kids are used to eating. But relying on them isn't good for yeast issues either, because they are mostly rice flour.On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Tom Ajello <ajellogmail> wrote:

Hi laura,When you're gf/cf/sf, what things do you use for sweets?Agave? Honey ? Are those no-nos too?/tSent from my iPad mini

On Jun 12, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Goddin <lauragoddinhotmail> wrote:

Hey Tasha, Your post struck me -- because I just read all those symptoms in this book I am reading...so hang with me for a minute. I could see why you would think that sugar is evil - it's in everything, and it seems impossible to keep it out of your child's diet.

Something to consider - I am in the middle of reading about the Feingold Diet -- and a lot of your symptoms seem to match the issue of intolerance to Salicylates. (although a lot of these things do). One of the Mom's in the book was convinced too that it was sugar intolerance (not to say that she was incorrect) -- but it was actually an allergy to a food, and once that food was removed along with the salicylates - they got WOW that they were looking for. (all those symptoms went away).

I know with my son his face rash was gone (within 4 days of elimination). I thought it was yeast or eczema (as it got worse with temperature/some foods, etc.)...(my son does have yeast issues) However, once I removed those foods his tantrums and excess energy seemed to disappear. Since he doesn't have to deal with this issue, it might be easier to address his yeast issues at this point (as we have been largely unsuccessful in getting it knocked out, but have been largely successful in all other areas.)

I started my son on an additional elimination (besides the gf/cf/sf corn and IGg items removed) with amazing results. And as overwhelming at it could be, actually, it wasn't that difficult to implement. (as we are used to removing things!) -- we saw results in 4 days - which seems to be his magic number. With the children in the book, the most noticeable results came within 14 days.

The book is by Ben Feingold and it's called Why is your child hyperactive? - the title can be a little misleading as he discusses the allergy aspects, and how he came to figure out these issues. But he discusses the alleviation of the symptoms you mention. It might be worth looking into it briefly to see if your child could benefit. (and this particular sensitivity affects boys more than girls - something crazy like for every 10 boys - 1 girl.)

laura To: mb12 valtrex From: tasha70999

Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 03:30:07 +0000Subject: Sugar is evil!

My 8 year old son has an extremely low tolerance for sugar. If he has more than about 10-15 grams of sugar in an entire day (including all foods and drinks) then every issue he has gets significantly worse within hours - tantrums, defiance, OCD, cold sores, ear infections, asthma, etc. If I didn't know better I would think he was allergic to sugar. Is this common in these kids? I know that my son has yeast and viral issues, is this why his tolerance is so low?

I'm so frustrated and find it almost impossible to keep his sugar level down low enough every day.

On top of it, I am soooo sick of dealing with people acting like I'm depriving my child. I've had to stop speaking to some of my own family members over this since they were practically accusing me of child abuse for not letting my son eat whatever he wants. It's really sad when you are trying to save your child and people view it as the opposite.

Thanks for listening and any input :-)

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Yeah, see if I limit sugar or juice, my kids just seek more fruit or other food. So that is why it is better for me to give lightly sweetened lemonade then to try to get them to accept plain water. I know people say " they will drink water if they are thirsty " but I'm gonna tell you, no they won't, unless I also take away food. 

I figure, like you, , I will get the food issue worked out first and then start working on eliminating the sugar from juices, etc.:-)And yeah, we are still yeasty, but much less so than a few months ago. :-)

 

My kids would often eat 'fruit' or drink juice for their sweets.  Because I didn't limit them. Honestly, their diets at the beginning were very limited (VERY) and therefore, I felt it was more important to eat and get nutrition (by any means) than it was to limit sugar or feed yeast.  (Okay, not a popular thing to say, but honest, nonetheless..)

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Honestly Toni -- (again not popular, but I'm on a role today!!) -- To get my kids to drink water I used a tsp of organic sugar and tblspn of lemon in about 8 oz of water. It gave it just enough flavor. It took about 3 months to get Jimmy to drink water plain. Maddie will still not drink it plain, but she is down to 1/4 tsp of organic sugar and 1 tblspn of lemon. (and I reduced the sugar first, and then I reduced the lemon, although, lemon tastes good in water...)To me - getting the water was more important than the 1 tsp of sugar. The lemon is a great detoxer (and it's got some vitamin C -- this is how I justified it!), so I felt I was getting 2 good things and one not so great, but not awful. laura To: mb12 valtrex From: bellbaby@...Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 07:43:02 -0400Subject: Re: Sugar is evil!

Yeah, see if I limit sugar or juice, my kids just seek more fruit or other food. So that is why it is better for me to give lightly sweetened lemonade then to try to get them to accept plain water. I know people say "they will drink water if they are thirsty" but I'm gonna tell you, no they won't, unless I also take away food.

I figure, like you, , I will get the food issue worked out first and then start working on eliminating the sugar from juices, etc.:-)And yeah, we are still yeasty, but much less so than a few months ago. :-)

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Goddin <lauragoddinhotmail> wrote:

My kids would often eat 'fruit' or drink juice for their sweets. Because I didn't limit them. Honestly, their diets at the beginning were very limited (VERY) and therefore, I felt it was more important to eat and get nutrition (by any means) than it was to limit sugar or feed yeast. (Okay, not a popular thing to say, but honest, nonetheless..)

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I was using true lemon and true lime packets, with one packet of sun crystals. Alek loved that. But stevia is high oxalate and I'm not sure how sun crystals ranks.

 

Honestly Toni -- (again not popular, but I'm on a role today!!) -- To get my kids to drink water I used a tsp of organic sugar and tblspn of lemon in about 8 oz of water.  It gave it just enough flavor.  It took about 3 months to get Jimmy to drink water plain.  Maddie will still not drink it plain, but she is down to 1/4 tsp of organic sugar and 1 tblspn of lemon.  (and I reduced the sugar first, and then I reduced the lemon, although, lemon tastes good in water...)

To me - getting the water was more important than the 1 tsp of sugar.  The lemon is a great detoxer (and it's got some vitamin C -- this is how I justified it!), so I felt I was getting 2 good things and one not so great, but not awful.

  laura To: mb12 valtrex From: bellbaby@...

Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 07:43:02 -0400Subject: Re: Sugar is evil!

 

Yeah, see if I limit sugar or juice, my kids just seek more fruit or other food. So that is why it is better for me to give lightly sweetened lemonade then to try to get them to accept plain water. I know people say " they will drink water if they are thirsty " but I'm gonna tell you, no they won't, unless I also take away food. 

I figure, like you, , I will get the food issue worked out first and then start working on eliminating the sugar from juices, etc.:-)And yeah, we are still yeasty, but much less so than a few months ago. :-)

 

My kids would often eat 'fruit' or drink juice for their sweets.  Because I didn't limit them. Honestly, their diets at the beginning were very limited (VERY) and therefore, I felt it was more important to eat and get nutrition (by any means) than it was to limit sugar or feed yeast.  (Okay, not a popular thing to say, but honest, nonetheless..)

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I have to chime in on this 'sugar is evil' thread, even though I don't really

have a solutions so far except avoidance. My youngest son (I have two boys with

ASD) turns into a madman with just a smidge of sugar lately. Whenever he starts

acting crazy, my oldest son will ask " Did eat sugar again???? " He is a

kid we have been doing diet and biomed with since the age of 1, and he is now

12. He usually tests negative for yeast and bacteria, although once he has

slightly elevated yeast markers. But whatever the reason, he is a wild-eyed

maniac if he gets more than just the smallest amount. Thankfully he drinks only

water now. For years I watered down his organic lemonade, but he finally got to

the point of just drinking water. But he would knock an old lady over a cliff to

get his hands on a soda! So I have to make sure there is none of those around.

Sylvia

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Thank you all for your great advice and input! One thing I can tell from some

of your posts is that my son must be more behind in the process of healing his

immune system than some of your children are. When I say he has no tolerance to

sugar, I'm talking one slice of cake at a party or one large cup of any

sweetened drink and he will have some type of a raging ear, eye or sinus

infection by the next day that won't respond to anything but a strong

antibiotic. So, for now we have no choice but to only allow him to drink water.

The tiny bit of sugar he can handle have to save for foods.

We have been doing the Feingold diet, vitamins/minerals, garlic, probiotics,

epsom salt baths and rotation diet for quite a while with much improvement but

obviously have not found the key yet.

I know from the OAT that he has high oxalates (like you all suspected), and his

markers for Clostrida were very high and yeast were high. I should probably

redo the OAT since it has been over a year since the last one. He also has

chronic viral issues. I've been treating this for years with Lysine but now I'm

concerned about that since reading some articles that said driving down arginine

long term can cause problems.

We have an appt. with a new biomed doc - Dr. L.M. in PA next month. I'm

planning on switching from Lysine to an rx antiviral. Hopefully this will help.

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Thanks , because of this thread I am re-examing the Feingold diet. I joined

Feingold about 5 years ago, but I never did the full program since we were doing

so many other therapies at the time. But along with his sugar sensitivity, he

has been highly reactive to most colors lately. He has always done poorly with

artificial dyes and we have always kept him from those, but now even a small

portion of berries will set him off, even with No Fenol. Any colored food, but

especially red foods, are off limits now. It is very limiting! He also reacts to

vinegar, so no salad dressing or pickles. Most fruits in general are out now. It

is driving us nuts!

Thanks for the help,

Sylvia

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