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Hi ,

Those pictures of Hannah are adorable! It's like she has her own

little support group there!

Thursday we had a really good appointment with cranial facial surgeon,

Dr. s; he was terrific. Have you heard of him at any of

the moderators' conferences? Anyway, he agreed a second DOC Band would

benefit Meredith. She just turned 15 months old and has been in her

band for 15 weeks now. Dr. s also diagnosed slight torticollis

and slight head tilt; until we saw him, we were told Mer just had a

little neck tightness, but not torticollis. We will continue with the

neck exercises CT recommended and try some other things Dr. s

suggested.

He also said he thinks older babies that can benefit from two bands,

do better if they don't go the full 4 months in the first one before

moving into the next one. He said perhaps wearing the band for 3

months and then getting another band can be more effective than

wearing one for 4 months and then starting again with another. I think

it has to do with keeping those holding points really holding and

because bands lose some of that gentle pressure after awhile. For

older babies whose head growth rate is slowing down as they approach

that 24 month mark, two rounds of shorter treatment may be better.

Have you heard other specialists talk about this at any of the

seminars or conferences you've attended? It makes sense to me, just

wanted to know if you've heard that also.

Thanks ,

from SC

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Hi ,

Sounds like things are going great for you guys! I haven't heard of

Dr. s, but we didn't do too much talking about specific docs

at the conference. Thats interesting that Meredith was diagnosed

with tort just now at 15 mos. We had Hannah evaluated for tort too

and it was ruled out, but she does still have a tilt. We also had

her eyes checked at the request of Cranial Tech to make sure the

tilt wasn't caused from anything visual. As far as getting a new

band before a baby has offically grown out of the previous one, I

have also heard that. Even with Hannah's first band (she started at

only 4.5 mos) it was recommended to us to have her casted again

weeks before she had grown out of her band. Her head was severe to

begin with and had changed so much and they wanted to give her fresh

pressure points to work with better suited to her " new " rounder

head. It didn't actually end up working out that way b/c we had to

wait for a specialist appt, were denied a script at that time, then

had ins issues, so she ended up having a three week gap between the

first two. I do think it's common though and makes absolute sense

to me as well. Some babies will actually have different shaped

helmets the second time around with a change in the holding spots

for instance b/c as their head shape changes, the places that need

correction change, and that can end up with needing a diffent shaped

helmet. I think if you know you're going to do a second band, you

might as well do it now as well. Hannah got this band at 15 mos old

too. I hope our girls have some good growth spurts!

--- In Plagiocephaly , " from SC " <geodmj@s...>

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> Hi ,

>

> Those pictures of Hannah are adorable! It's like she has her own

> little support group there!

>

> Thursday we had a really good appointment with cranial facial

surgeon,

> Dr. s; he was terrific. Have you heard of him at any

of

> the moderators' conferences? Anyway, he agreed a second DOC Band

would

> benefit Meredith. She just turned 15 months old and has been in her

> band for 15 weeks now. Dr. s also diagnosed slight

torticollis

> and slight head tilt; until we saw him, we were told Mer just had a

> little neck tightness, but not torticollis. We will continue with

the

> neck exercises CT recommended and try some other things Dr.

s

> suggested.

>

> He also said he thinks older babies that can benefit from two

bands,

> do better if they don't go the full 4 months in the first one

before

> moving into the next one. He said perhaps wearing the band for 3

> months and then getting another band can be more effective than

> wearing one for 4 months and then starting again with another. I

think

> it has to do with keeping those holding points really holding and

> because bands lose some of that gentle pressure after awhile. For

> older babies whose head growth rate is slowing down as they

approach

> that 24 month mark, two rounds of shorter treatment may be better.

> Have you heard other specialists talk about this at any of the

> seminars or conferences you've attended? It makes sense to me, just

> wanted to know if you've heard that also.

>

> Thanks ,

> from SC

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Hi ,

Thanks for your response. Meredith's torticollis is considered slight.

Up until Dr. s evaluated her, we had been told she had SCM

tightness, not tort. Her neck rom is good except she can turn her head

a little further to the right than to the left. This explains why it

was easier for me to breastfeed her on my right (football hold style)

than on my left. It must have been very uncomfortable for her to turn

her head to her left (the tight side). We hadn't noticed the tilt,

except now, looking at some pictures past and present, we do see there

is a little bit. I'm going to read an article someone gave me that

talks about the differences between torticollis and SCM imbalance and

what differentiates them.

Best wishes on Hannah's progess, as well! I'll keep you posted on when

we have a date for casting. I hope it's by this Friday and we get her

new band before end of June.

Take care,

J. from SC

Olivia (4)

Meredith (15 months old, in DOC Band for 15 weeks)

> > Hi ,

> >

> > Those pictures of Hannah are adorable! It's like she has her own

> > little support group there!

> >

> > Thursday we had a really good appointment with cranial facial

> surgeon,

> > Dr. s; he was terrific. Have you heard of him at any

> of

> > the moderators' conferences? Anyway, he agreed a second DOC Band

> would

> > benefit Meredith. She just turned 15 months old and has been in

her

> > band for 15 weeks now. Dr. s also diagnosed slight

> torticollis

> > and slight head tilt; until we saw him, we were told Mer just had

a

> > little neck tightness, but not torticollis. We will continue with

> the

> > neck exercises CT recommended and try some other things Dr.

> s

> > suggested.

> >

> > He also said he thinks older babies that can benefit from two

> bands,

> > do better if they don't go the full 4 months in the first one

> before

> > moving into the next one. He said perhaps wearing the band for 3

> > months and then getting another band can be more effective than

> > wearing one for 4 months and then starting again with another. I

> think

> > it has to do with keeping those holding points really holding and

> > because bands lose some of that gentle pressure after awhile. For

> > older babies whose head growth rate is slowing down as they

> approach

> > that 24 month mark, two rounds of shorter treatment may be better.

> > Have you heard other specialists talk about this at any of the

> > seminars or conferences you've attended? It makes sense to me,

just

> > wanted to know if you've heard that also.

> >

> > Thanks ,

> > from SC

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Hi ,

Thanks for your recent reply about the article added to the

files' folder.

Just wanted to give you a quick update and ask you a question. We

found out this morning that even if BCBS could give their yea or nay

on the 2nd band this week, CT can not get us in for casting until

after June 23rd. I was really hoping to get in by this Friday or

sometime next week at the latest. It's something I suppose can not be

helped - since they are quite booked and our OT (who is very good at

casting will be out of the office). Even if CT got us in right after

the 23rd, that makes 18 weeks Mer will have been in this band, and 20

weeks before her 2nd one arrives. If she's outgrown the first one and

is bandless for a couple of weeks, and has a growth spurt during that

time - will it be a growth spurt in the right direction? I know of one

mother whose son's head improved 1mm on its own while he was bandless

and were waiting for their 2nd band. I did ask CT to keep us in mind

if they have a cancellation, though a cancellation is probably unlikely.

I know you said Hannah had to go without her band for 3 weeks. Did she

have a growth spurt? Any change? Did she adjust to her next band as

easily as she did with her previous one(s)?

Should we try to get Meredith casted at the Atlanta CT if they can get

her in sooner - and have her band sent to Charlotte when it's ready?

Charlotte CT said Atlanta may be in the same situation, busy.

Thanks for your help,

J. from SC

Olivia (4)

Meredith (15 months, going on 16 weeks in DOC Band, second one July!

> > Hi ,

> >

> > Those pictures of Hannah are adorable! It's like she has her own

> > little support group there!

> >

> > Thursday we had a really good appointment with cranial facial

> surgeon,

> > Dr. s; he was terrific. Have you heard of him at any

> of

> > the moderators' conferences? Anyway, he agreed a second DOC Band

> would

> > benefit Meredith. She just turned 15 months old and has been in her

> > band for 15 weeks now. Dr. s also diagnosed slight

> torticollis

> > and slight head tilt; until we saw him, we were told Mer just had a

> > little neck tightness, but not torticollis. We will continue with

> the

> > neck exercises CT recommended and try some other things Dr.

> s

> > suggested.

> >

> > He also said he thinks older babies that can benefit from two

> bands,

> > do better if they don't go the full 4 months in the first one

> before

> > moving into the next one. He said perhaps wearing the band for 3

> > months and then getting another band can be more effective than

> > wearing one for 4 months and then starting again with another. I

> think

> > it has to do with keeping those holding points really holding and

> > because bands lose some of that gentle pressure after awhile. For

> > older babies whose head growth rate is slowing down as they

> approach

> > that 24 month mark, two rounds of shorter treatment may be better.

> > Have you heard other specialists talk about this at any of the

> > seminars or conferences you've attended? It makes sense to me, just

> > wanted to know if you've heard that also.

> >

> > Thanks ,

> > from SC

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Hi ,

Thats a bummer about not having a sooner casting appt! I hope BCBS

gives you an answer soon (keep harassing them!) and that CT has a

cancellation for you. Of course you'd rather not have her bandless

for any period of time, but if you have to, I think you just have to

try and not think about her having a growth spurt! Just try to

enjoy the little break with a naked head! I don't think anyone can

really tell you for sure which way her head would grow if she were

to have a growth spurt. She's old enough now that she's obviously

not spending much time on her flat spot, so that should be

encouraging. I'm not sure of any change Hannah had between bands,

b/c we didn't have her measured. I personally think she did regress

some between the second and third, but we didn't do an exit cast so

we can't know for sure. She was out of bands between #1 and #2 for

three weeks and between #2 and #3 for four months and she luckily

readjusted fine each time. Hannah is very " spirited " and I thought

for sure going into band #3 at 15 mos would be a nightmare. I was

quite wrong! She actually loves her band and brings it to me to put

on when it's off. She won't keep anthing in her hair (barrettes,

elastics, nothing!) but she loves that helmet! I'm not sure how

much farther Atlanta is for you, but if it's not much farther and

they can fit you in it may be worth it to not risk a bad

readjusment. I think she'll do fine though. If anyone was going to

protest, it would have been Hannah!

> > > Hi ,

> > >

> > > Those pictures of Hannah are adorable! It's like she has her

own

> > > little support group there!

> > >

> > > Thursday we had a really good appointment with cranial facial

> > surgeon,

> > > Dr. s; he was terrific. Have you heard of him at

any

> > of

> > > the moderators' conferences? Anyway, he agreed a second DOC

Band

> > would

> > > benefit Meredith. She just turned 15 months old and has been

in her

> > > band for 15 weeks now. Dr. s also diagnosed slight

> > torticollis

> > > and slight head tilt; until we saw him, we were told Mer just

had a

> > > little neck tightness, but not torticollis. We will continue

with

> > the

> > > neck exercises CT recommended and try some other things Dr.

> > s

> > > suggested.

> > >

> > > He also said he thinks older babies that can benefit from two

> > bands,

> > > do better if they don't go the full 4 months in the first one

> > before

> > > moving into the next one. He said perhaps wearing the band for

3

> > > months and then getting another band can be more effective than

> > > wearing one for 4 months and then starting again with another.

I

> > think

> > > it has to do with keeping those holding points really holding

and

> > > because bands lose some of that gentle pressure after awhile.

For

> > > older babies whose head growth rate is slowing down as they

> > approach

> > > that 24 month mark, two rounds of shorter treatment may be

better.

> > > Have you heard other specialists talk about this at any of the

> > > seminars or conferences you've attended? It makes sense to me,

just

> > > wanted to know if you've heard that also.

> > >

> > > Thanks ,

> > > from SC

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