RE: PT Advocacy - chiropractors and personal trainers

[Guest guest]

It depends what you think their " role " is. I do not

think a personal trainer should ever utter anything

related to injury rehabilitation, OR prevention. They

have no educational background to deal with pathology,

nor prevent it. Personal trainers should stick to

" Baywatch " biceps and leave it at that.

Bisesi MPT, COMT.

--- Steve Passmore

wrote:

> I respect personal trainers and their role but would

> not think a personal

> trainer should use the initials “PT” after their

> signature.

>

>

>

> I am not from Michigan; however, I just read the

> Michigan practice act, as

> an example, and it seems to clearly state that

> people should not

> miss-represent their signature as being a physical

> therapists. As stated,

> if someone put MD after their name, the physicians

> would have a reason to

> complain and it’s the same with PT. Most states

> have similar language in

> their practice acts. Licensure is a 2 way street…

> public protection and

> professional regulation.

>

>

>

> 2) The following words, titles, or letters or a

> combination thereof, with or

> without qualifying words or phrases, are restricted

> in use only to those

> persons authorized under this part to use the terms

> and in a way prescribed

> in this part: " physical therapy " , " physical

> therapist " , " physiotherapist " ,

> " registered physical therapist " , " licensed physical

> therapist " , " physical

> therapy technician " , " p.t. " , " r.p.t. " , " l.p.t. " , and

> " p.t.t. " .

>

> PUBLIC HEALTH CODE: Act 368 of 1978. Section

> 333.17820

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>

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(vuegjkrsdzngf2ztiyyezerq))/mileg.aspx?page=

> getObject & objectName=mcl-333-17820

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>

>

> Maybe I am wrong… but I don’t think so.

>

>

>

> Steve Passmore PT

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> From: PTManager

> [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

> Of AOD Physical Therapy

> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 1:40 PM

> To: PTManager

> Subject: Re: PT Advocacy - chiropractors

>

>

>

> Dear Dave and ,

> Perhaps some of the confusion is in our use of

> initials. Personal trainers

> often use the inital PT just like us. Perhaps like

> the ATC's we too should

> lobby against the misrepresentation of our

> profession through improper use

> of our initials. MD or PhD have no confusion

> attached to their initials.

> Just a thought.

> Jill O. Sedmak, PT, MPT, ATC

> Director of therapy

> Clinton Twp, MI

> stapleswh <HYPERLINK

> " mailto:stapleswh%40uindy.edu " stapleswh@...>

> wrote:

> Dave, there are over 65,000 members of the APTA

> (10,000) are students.

> There are close to 140,000 licensed PTs in the US.

> Not sure how many of

> them are working. I'm not sure what percentage of

> the dues is used for

> marketing although it is probably accessible on the

> APTA website. You

> can donate money to the PT PAC that works very hard

> in DC. I visited my

> senators and congressman in DC when we had our march

> on Washington, a

> great experience. The APTA is only as strong as it's

> membership. We all

> need to fight the good fight. Imagine what could be

> accomplished if we

> could get the 75,000 PTs who are not members to join

> and quit

> freeloading on our dime!!! That's where we need to

> make inroads. As an

> FYI our membership numbers are about par for the

> percentage of MDs that

> belong to the AMA.

> Bill Staples PT

>

> Hiten Dave wrote:

> > There are approx 65000 PTs in the US. I maybe

> wrong in the total numbers.

> My

> > proposal would be that each PT should be required

> to pay $100 dues per

> year

> > or some amount totaling to $100 per year. This is

> approx 6.5 million

> dollars

> > which should be sufficient to initiate legal and

> public relations campaign

> > including Washington DC politicians. PTs who work

> in a non-outpatient

> arenas

> > should understand that with DPT programs, Direct

> Access is going to bring

> > PTs certainly in the same playing field as MDs,

> Chiros and Acupuncturists.

> > The risks and hardships of reaching the public

> directly are there,

> however,

> > we will cross that bridge when time comes.

> > Hiten Dave' PT

> >

> > RE: PT Advocacy -

> chiropractors

> >

> >

> > My question is what is APTA doing to help defend

> our scope of practice,

> > educate the community about PT and regulating all

> these fraudulent

> > activites. I definitely think we as clinician

> should step up and report

> more

> > fraudulent activites but we also need some help

> for our professional

> > organization.

> >

> > It's no wonder why medicare and private insurance

> is becoming more strict

> on

> > paying for PT services. We have all these other

> healthcare professional

> (if

> > I can call them that) billing for PT services when

> they aren't PTs or have

> a

> > any PTs in their office but the insurance company

> doesn't know and doesn't

> > care.

> >

> > We need more PTs to become members of APTA so we

> can get more and better

> > lobbiest and we need APTA to analyze how they are

> educating the community

> > about PT.

> >

> > How many times have you seen a commerical for a

> gym and they talked about

> > their personal trainers and now the personal

> trainers are on t.v. show

> (the

> > biggest loser). If you ask anyone on the street

> they can tell you what a

> > chiropractor does and what a personal trainer

> does... but when you ask

> them

> > what a PT does their typical response is don't

> they do massage.

> >

> > I remember seeing a news report a couple months

> ago

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