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THANK YOU for the list of abbreviations. I was going nuts trying to figure

out the terminology behind AF (although I had already figured out the meaning

from context) and some of the others.

Regarding fertility drugs, are they commonly used even if someone had no

problem getting pg before TL?

How does ROBI tie in to babymaking?

Thanks,

Sandy

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I like many of the subscribers of this group have wrestled with this

question and as I work on my 7th year after dx I still often wonder how

long it will be before the doctor refers me on to a tx team.

A question that I have for the group is whether or not there has been

any attempts to collect raw information from everyone (lifestyle,

eating habits, medication, age, etc) to see if there is any sort of

pattern to why PSC is more aggressive in some and others have gone 20+

years before transplantation. I know everyone's body is different but

I often wonder why some people get 5 years and others get 20.

(Obviously) not being a doctor this is a simplistic view of the problem

but if I knew that a majority of the folks lived with PSC for 20 yeas

ate certain kinds of foods while avoiding other types of foods or

something silly like that, heck, I'm not above trying that. Given the

suspicion of UC being a factor in PSC, I suppose it would be

interesting to note whether or not those that went a short (or long)

time had reoccurring problems.

I'm somewhat new to the group and this sort of discussion may have

already taken place sometime before -- if it has (or if I'm out of

line) please forgive me in advance.

Regards,

Jeff

On Monday, June 2, 2003, at 08:05 PM, Tony & wrote:

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> Psc treats everyone differently.  I don't believe there is an exact

> time length from dx to transplant.  Some people need tx right away

> and some have lived 20+ years without getting a transplant.

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....While many in this group do not feel that the correct nutrition, exercise and supplements in combination help one iota...

I don't believe I've heard that said. There's no question that correct nutrition (assuming you can determine what that is) and exercise help. The third item is not so straightforward. I personally use high potency vitamins, along with calcium, glucosamine chondroitin and milk thistle. The first two because of 25+ years with UC (and yes, age), the third clearly because of age (and some overuse) and the last due to clearly documented "no harm" to possibly "helpful" research with liver disease - all with the blessing of my hepatologist. Overuse/misuse of supplements can be just as bad as overuse/misuse of exercise and nutrition.

Stress management clearly helps with most chronic ailments - you cannot separate the body from the mind.

Arne52 - UC 9/77 - PSC 4/00Alive and (mostly) well in Minnesota

-----Original Message-----From: Gema M. Long

Jeff,

I strongly believe in eating more alkaline foods and less acidic foods. While many in this group do not feel that the correct nutrition, exercise and supplements in combination help one iota, I believe that keeping your body in a good assimilation and elimination routine and giving the body the best nutrients coupled with stress management will help the body to heal itself.

My two cents...not one to sit around and do nothing. I'll take control where I can and do it smartly!

Gema

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Sorry.Ron takes 16 magnesium a day not 12.

With Love,

Suzanne

Recycle Yourself * Be An Organ Donor

Questions

The questions someone else submitted about being prepared for life after transplant ........Well we certainly weren't prepared for what happened to Ron during his transplant......don't think you can be but once over the trauma (please newbies ....... don't expect the trauma of Ron's ordeal to be the same for you) life is.... well, not a breeze but something close to it.....even with a large open incision. We have found that Ron feels so much better, no itching, no horrible fatigue, no watching Ron dwindle away, no wondering if he would get his transplant in time .......we have so much to look forward to as Ron improves daily. The medications are forever.......but quite easily managed.....we also....as someone else mentioned have a pill box that is divided into 7 days with four slots for each day labeled for 6am, 10am, 2pm & 10pm. He takes about 30 pills a day:

cellcept -250 mg--------4day

prograf -1 mg-----------2day

prednisone -5 mg.-----1day

asacol -400mg.---------2day

captopril -25 mg.------3day

cardizem -360 mg.----1day

protonix -40mg.--------1day

magnesium -400mg---12day

bactim -800mg----------1day three days a week

florinef -.1mg------------1day

furosmide -20mg-------1day

We also do a computer printout that Ron & I both keep a copy of in our wallets & on the refrig. when it's changed to also give new ones to the doctors. It includes where to take Ron in case of emergency, all drugs(mgs, amt. times of day & use) transplant center,tx co-ordinator, hepatalogist, cardiovascular, primary care, Ins. case manager, pharmacy & all there respective telephone numbers. Also listed are all his major surgeries, transfusions & their dates, it makes things a lot easier. What with all Ron's complications following his transplant...............yeh, I think this is a breeze.

With Love,

Suzanne

Recycle Yourself * Be An Organ Donor

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Melena's odour is probably one of the worst things you'll ever smell, even

the output from pulp plants isn't as bad. Melena is pitch black in colour

and is unmistakable.

Your breath situation sounds like water brash, described in another post to

the group.

Spider veins can be from other causes. However, in a person with liver

disease you have to consider that these are due to the liver problem and a

doppler US of the abdomen is worth doing to investigate of portal

hypertension.

PSC is diagnosed by suspicion based in symptoms, signs and test results. If

you have no positive antibody tests or viral hepatitis tests, no drugs that

may have caused liver inflammation, elevated liver enzymes and suspicious

ERCP or biopsy results, your doctor will suggest that it's due to PSC. But

the gold standard is seeing narrowing of the bile ducts on ERCP or MRCP.

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Aubrey

MD, PSC 1981, LTX 10/5/98

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