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Hi all! I apologize for posting this completely off topic subject,

but I don't know who else to ask. Please reply off list so I don't

clog up the board with such and off topic conversation.

I visited 2 of the 3 schools Sam may end up going to in Sept. They

both had no clue about diets and behavior. The first principle said,

" so it's really bad, huh? " when I told him that we are doing a special

diet for behavior! The other school has a separate " inclusion "

kindergarten class. This makes no sense to me since it's a separate

class - how is that included in anything!

Sam is not getting an OT evaluation until May. He does not have an

IEP. He passed the school district's screening (he passed their OT

screening too, which wasn't that much different than the general

education one.) I know lots of parent's could care less about getting

a diagnosis, but what do I tell to his teachers and principle if he

doesn't have one. I want him to be successful at school and happy. Do

I just send him off to school with just a warning to his teachers and

hope everything is ok?

I don't want him to be labelled as the " bad " kid. I don't want him to

be labelled at all, but without a diagnosis I know that's what will

happen. I'll get blamed and Sam will be the bad kid. When his

behavior is very bad he can come off pretty psychotic and out of

control (it's not like that right now because of SCD Thank God.) But

it could be worse too, I suppose. Do I wait until something awful

happens at school? That's what I have been trying to avoid for years

now and noone has been able to tell me what exactly is going on with

this kid. The people at the screening seemed concerned but had no

idea what to do with us since Sam can cut with scissors and can hop on

one foot. Big freakin' deal. Yes he can cut with scissors, but he

freaks out if he can't be the line leader at school - this used to

happen every day!

Any insight is appreciated.

Chrystee

Sam, 4.5, behavior/sensory issues

SCD 4 weeks

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Christy, I don't think this is too OT for most of us here.

I would say, if possible, get a dx and a formal IEP. Otherwise, he is not

guaranteed anything. I would not wait.

I did not want Luke to have a dx of any kind. Then, when he got one, I was

insistent that he stay in a mainstream class and be served there. I've come a

long way in my ideas about that. It wasn't just a " pride " thing, like, " not my

child " , but I just saw so much potential in him and did not want a label holding

him back. Instead, it has made things possible for him. In the regular Pre-K

class he was the " bad kid " , I heard kids call him " annoying " or " crazy " . And

he's the sweetest, kindest soul you'd ever meet. He just couldn't find his way

in that confusing environment. He was so filled with anxiety those couple of

months, it was awful. Now he loves to go to school and misses it when he can't

go. He's so much better off in the EC class. I don't know what kind of class

he'll be in for Kindy next year, his transitional IEP is later this spring. But

without an IEP you have no say, you have no guarantees, and he can get lost in

the shuffle. The dx does not have to be any type of autism, necessarily - I'm

not sure what all the options are, to be honest with you. But I'd pursue it.

Is there a neurodevelopmental pediatrician in your area? Or a neurologist who

focuses on pediatrics, and autism/adhd kids? We've had best luck with these

kind of Dr's. A private dx holds a lot of weight along side the school

district's evaluations.

Good luck in your decisions,

in NC

Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/salicylate intolerant/diarrhea pre-SCD;

, age 3, healthy; and , 19 mos, healthy

All SCD since 1/26/04

Kindy and IEPs

Hi all! I apologize for posting this completely off topic subject,

but I don't know who else to ask. Please reply off list so I don't

clog up the board with such and off topic conversation.

I visited 2 of the 3 schools Sam may end up going to in Sept. They

both had no clue about diets and behavior. The first principle said,

" so it's really bad, huh? " when I told him that we are doing a special

diet for behavior! The other school has a separate " inclusion "

kindergarten class. This makes no sense to me since it's a separate

class - how is that included in anything!

Sam is not getting an OT evaluation until May. He does not have an

IEP. He passed the school district's screening (he passed their OT

screening too, which wasn't that much different than the general

education one.) I know lots of parent's could care less about getting

a diagnosis, but what do I tell to his teachers and principle if he

doesn't have one. I want him to be successful at school and happy. Do

I just send him off to school with just a warning to his teachers and

hope everything is ok?

I don't want him to be labelled as the " bad " kid. I don't want him to

be labelled at all, but without a diagnosis I know that's what will

happen. I'll get blamed and Sam will be the bad kid. When his

behavior is very bad he can come off pretty psychotic and out of

control (it's not like that right now because of SCD Thank God.) But

it could be worse too, I suppose. Do I wait until something awful

happens at school? That's what I have been trying to avoid for years

now and noone has been able to tell me what exactly is going on with

this kid. The people at the screening seemed concerned but had no

idea what to do with us since Sam can cut with scissors and can hop on

one foot. Big freakin' deal. Yes he can cut with scissors, but he

freaks out if he can't be the line leader at school - this used to

happen every day!

Any insight is appreciated.

Chrystee

Sam, 4.5, behavior/sensory issues

SCD 4 weeks

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Who do I call?

He's been screened by the school district, seen my Pediatrician alot,

seen 2 psychologists, and OT and had a speech evaluation. He's a

toughy, everyone agrees, but noone has said anything about ASD.

The May OT evaluation is the soonest I could get. It is an independent

evaluation not through the school district.;

What do I do now?

Chrystee

Sam

SCD 4 weeks

> Christy, I don't think this is too OT for most of us here.

>

> I would say, if possible, get a dx and a formal IEP. Otherwise, he

is not guaranteed anything. I would not wait.

>

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Are there any developmental pediatrician's in your area? They

really are the experts when it comes to developmental delays.

Gia

Mom to Jack and , SCD 8 mos.

> > Christy, I don't think this is too OT for most of us here.

> >

> > I would say, if possible, get a dx and a formal IEP. Otherwise,

he

> is not guaranteed anything. I would not wait.

> >

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So, no one says he has any delays of any kind, or any OT issues that require an

IEP? I am a little stumped on that. If not an ASD type dx, what about sensory

integration disorder? Let me think about all that, and I'm sure others might

have ideas. I hate to see him start kindy with no IEP if you feel he really

needs it.

in NC

Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/salicylate intolerant/diarrhea pre-SCD;

, age 3, healthy; and , 19 mos, healthy

All SCD since 1/26/04

Re: Kindy and IEPs

Who do I call?

He's been screened by the school district, seen my Pediatrician alot,

seen 2 psychologists, and OT and had a speech evaluation. He's a

toughy, everyone agrees, but noone has said anything about ASD.

The May OT evaluation is the soonest I could get. It is an independent

evaluation not through the school district.;

What do I do now?

Chrystee

Sam

SCD 4 weeks

> Christy, I don't think this is too OT for most of us here.

>

> I would say, if possible, get a dx and a formal IEP. Otherwise, he

is not guaranteed anything. I would not wait.

>

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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The real OT evaluation is in May not through the school district.

The school district's screening was very narrow. He had to stack

blocks, cut a line, circle, square, draw a picture of himself, know

his colors, describe what was going on in pictures, point to his

elbow.....He got a 92 out of 100 points. The district's OT eval. was

similar. We talked about his sensory issues and she offered a brush

and chew tube, but he was never really evaluated or offered services.

I didn't take them because from what I'm hearing it's actually

dangerous if brushing is done improperly and I dont' want to do it

with out realy supervision at first.

His speech evaluation that was independently done where he's going to

have his real OT eval was thourough and showed no delays. We haven't

gotten the results yet, but the speech pathologist told us that he

seems on track for his age. The few sounds that he has trouble with,

he'll probably grow out of. I am still concerned about processing

though; he mixes up elbow/knee, hard/easy, up/down, off/on. Not all

the time so it's not consistent enough for it to show up on an evaluation.

So no he's passed the evaluations that we've done; I am looking

forward to May and a real OT eval.

chrystee

Sam

SCD 4 weeks

> So, no one says he has any delays of any kind, or any OT issues that

require an IEP? I am a little stumped on that. If not an ASD type

dx, what about sensory integration disorder? Let me think about all

that, and I'm sure others might have ideas. I hate to see him start

kindy with no IEP if you feel he really needs it.

>

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Chrystee-

If you tell me what state you live in I can more than likely find out who

the advocacy organization is in your area or parent support/advocacy. I am

a little rusty, but i think all states are now required to have a central

place of information. Let me email my friend to find out.

If you live in a small town or county the therapists may not be trained in

sensory intergration and have no one that can provide it. Hence the school

may not want to offer that diagnosis, if that is what it truely is. There

are ot's out there with specific SI training. you might want to find out if

the one you are going to go to has had training in it and how much.

I concur that if you can find a developmental pediatrician, you may have the

most success getting a diagnosis.

You are welcome to email me privately.

Marilyn mom to Caleb 4 and 2 with Down syndrome and gut issues, GF/CF

working my way into SCD

mywallace@...

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> The real OT evaluation is in May not through the school district.

>

> The school district's screening was very narrow. He had to stack

> blocks, cut a line, circle, square, draw a picture of himself, know

> his colors, describe what was going on in pictures, point to his

> elbow.....He got a 92 out of 100 points. The district's OT eval. was

> similar. We talked about his sensory issues and she offered a brush

> and chew tube, but he was never really evaluated or offered services.

> I didn't take them because from what I'm hearing it's actually

> dangerous if brushing is done improperly and I dont' want to do it

> with out realy supervision at first.

>

> His speech evaluation that was independently done where he's going to

> have his real OT eval was thourough and showed no delays. We haven't

> gotten the results yet, but the speech pathologist told us that he

> seems on track for his age. The few sounds that he has trouble with,

> he'll probably grow out of. I am still concerned about processing

> though; he mixes up elbow/knee, hard/easy, up/down, off/on. Not all

> the time so it's not consistent enough for it to show up on an evaluation.

>

> So no he's passed the evaluations that we've done; I am looking

> forward to May and a real OT eval.

>

> chrystee

> Sam

> SCD 4 weeks

>

>

>

> > So, no one says he has any delays of any kind, or any OT issues that

> require an IEP? I am a little stumped on that. If not an ASD type

> dx, what about sensory integration disorder? Let me think about all

> that, and I'm sure others might have ideas. I hate to see him start

> kindy with no IEP if you feel he really needs it.

> >

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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Chrystee- Listen to Marilyn, she's my good friend here in NC, and she knows

her stuff! ;.)

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>

>

> > The real OT evaluation is in May not through the school district.

> >

> > The school district's screening was very narrow. He had to stack

> > blocks, cut a line, circle, square, draw a picture of himself, know

> > his colors, describe what was going on in pictures, point to his

> > elbow.....He got a 92 out of 100 points. The district's OT eval. was

> > similar. We talked about his sensory issues and she offered a brush

> > and chew tube, but he was never really evaluated or offered services.

> > I didn't take them because from what I'm hearing it's actually

> > dangerous if brushing is done improperly and I dont' want to do it

> > with out realy supervision at first.

> >

> > His speech evaluation that was independently done where he's going to

> > have his real OT eval was thourough and showed no delays. We haven't

> > gotten the results yet, but the speech pathologist told us that he

> > seems on track for his age. The few sounds that he has trouble with,

> > he'll probably grow out of. I am still concerned about processing

> > though; he mixes up elbow/knee, hard/easy, up/down, off/on. Not all

> > the time so it's not consistent enough for it to show up on an

evaluation.

> >

> > So no he's passed the evaluations that we've done; I am looking

> > forward to May and a real OT eval.

> >

> > chrystee

> > Sam

> > SCD 4 weeks

> >

> >

> >

> > > So, no one says he has any delays of any kind, or any OT issues that

> > require an IEP? I am a little stumped on that. If not an ASD type

> > dx, what about sensory integration disorder? Let me think about all

> > that, and I'm sure others might have ideas. I hate to see him start

> > kindy with no IEP if you feel he really needs it.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.com

> >

> >

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