esther

[Guest guest]

: Thanks for the response. I am sorry for what you have gone through

and even though I feel that I am in a world of my own with all the problems

I am having, realise there are quite a few others experiencing problems of

some sort or another. I am beginning to psyche myself up just in case I

need further surgery. God I hope not. My biggest fear is still that the

band may have to come out, Dixon (my doctor) keeps telling me that the

band is not suitable for everyone and I feel he is trying to break it to me

slowly (this may be in my head as I am paranoid at the moment). On the

other hand I keep telling myself that the first band was fine (until

prolapse) so I argue with myself all the time. I hope all your problems

sort themselves out and that in time all will be OK.

[Guest guest]

Sally, I was thinking exactly the same thing only I didn't want people to

think I was just bitching because of what had happened. Kathy is really

lovely, but at time very scatter brained. When I went for the first

manometry and they couldn't get the tube through my nose the

Gastro-Intestinal Unit phoned to talk to Dixon about it. Kathy took

the message and just forgot about it. When Dixon mentioned it to her

she simply said, " Oh yes they did phone. I forgot to tell you about it. "

So far it has meant that I have wasted approx. 3 hours driving to the

clinics, waiting around and then being told we will have to do it all over

again. I know my problems are not Kathy's problems, but I really feel she

is adding to the stress by taking a really blas

é approach to it all. Maybe

I should say something. What really gets to me is the fact that I always

have to take so much unnecessary time off work and then go through all the

waiting and wondering all over again.

Well I have got that off my chest.

Have a great day and I will let you know what transpires.

[Guest guest]

Thanks . And you are right. Frustrating is the word I would use,

along with annoyed, peeved etc. etc.

[Guest guest]

Esther--

I am so sorry that you do not know any more now than you did before--You

were on my mind all weekend--I was wondering how things went and hoping you

were alright. It never occurred to me that you would not have gotten any

info. How frustrating this must be for you! I am sending big ((((hugs))))

your way and I hope you get some information soon! Take care!

Warm Regards,

[Guest guest]

Hi Esther,

I'm really sorry to here about your misfortune. I'm feeling a bit

blue myself today, and I havn't even been banded yet! My appointment

with Dr this afternoon has been cancelled as he is sick.

I'm so dissapointed as I had a mountain of questions to ask him.

I've made another appointment next week.

I hope your feeling better soon.....

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the responses. It is good to have somewhere you vent your

feelings, especially when you all understand. It is now 2.45pm and I have

now gone 26 hours without anything. I know I will not fade away as I have

plenty of reserves, however the thought of dehydration has crossed my mind.

I am at the moment vomiting saliva which is accumulating (sorry for the

graphics). I will wait to see what happens overnight and if I am still like

this will reluctantly go to see .

: the disappointing part is that we have been going very very slowly

with my fills. I waited almost 3 months and then had .2 put in on Friday.

I was going really well, even tolerating red meat and fresh bread. I even

managed to eat a hot dog complete with roll and onions. I don't know how

you tolerate being so tight, but I suppose it all boils down to how much we

want to lose the weight. Just be careful and don't get sick.

Diane: I know how you have to psych yourself up for an appointment like

yours so I can understand the disappointment. Make sure you write down all

your questions so as not forget anything.

- I am so happy the band has finally kicked in. Go for it.

Sally - Try to make our next meeting. It is ages since we have seen you. I

have never actually met Noel and am interested as to why you ask. He didn't

make a pass at you did he? Your termite problem has made me think it is

time we had our termite protection done again. We apparently live in a high

termite area. I hope you can get rid of the little blighters.

Esther.

[Guest guest]

Esther-

I am so glad you waited until you got home to eat the goodies too!! When I

read your story the first time, I could not help but wonder what was

doing at the market while you were off getting sick. I would have thought

hours would be a long time to sit and wait at the market while you tried to

get " unstuck. " Thanks for clearing up the image that was in my head

**smile**!

Warm Regards, of the Cakes

[Guest guest]

Hi , whats your story. And how come only 5 days! Are you also one of the very few who cannot have a band? Have you looked into other things, and if so, what?

Esther

PS Sorry about the 20 questions, but I am interested.

[Guest guest]

You are probably the only one left who hasn't heard my story......The surgeon

perforated my stomach and had to remove the band after 5 days.....was in

ICU for 2 days, collapsed lung, phenomena, open op, and the list goes on

( I can truly say that I was lucky I survived ,,with out being to dramatic

) I still have a sore lung and a hernia the size of a rock melon ( due

to the op ) and to top it of have gained a few more kilos. As to what I

am going to do, Don't Know !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Esther Van Houten wrote:

Hi

, whats your story. And how come only 5 days! Are you

also one of the very few who cannot have a band? Have you looked

into other things, and if so, what?EstherPS

Sorry about the 20 questions, but I am interested.

[Guest guest]

, how horrible for you. I am glad you survived it all.

Stupid question. Are you able to go back for a second try (perhaps using a

different surgeon) or is it a case of once bitten twice shy?

Your story does however bring things a little more into perspective. At

least I did have one good band and I did lose 37 kgs, although I think my

battle has just begun.

Keep in touch.

Esther

[Guest guest]

Oh My God!!!!...............I hope you weren't operated on in Adelaide???

:o/

Dorazio on 13/11/2000 13:44:49

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You are probably the only one left who hasn't heard my story......The

surgeon perforated my stomach and had to remove the band after 5

days.....was in ICU for 2 days, collapsed lung, phenomena, open op, and

the list goes on ( I can truly say that I was lucky I survived ,,with

out being to dramatic ) I still have a sore lung and a hernia the size

of a rock melon ( due to the op ) and to top it of have gained a few

more kilos. As to what I am going to do, Don't Know !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Esther Van Houten wrote:

> Hi , whats your story. And how come only 5 days! Are you

> also one of the very few who cannot have a band? Have you looked into

> other things, and if so, what?EstherPS Sorry about the 20 questions,

> but I am interested.

>

>

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I've never heard of phenomena - what's that.

At 12:14 PM 13/11/00 +0800, you wrote:

>You are probably the only one left who hasn't heard my story......The

>surgeon perforated my stomach and had to remove the band after 5

>days.....was in ICU for 2 days, collapsed lung, phenomena, open op, and the

>list goes on ( I can truly say that I was lucky I survived ,,with out being

>to dramatic ) I still have a sore lung and a hernia the size of a rock

>melon ( due to the op ) and to top it of have gained a few more kilos. As

>to what I am going to do, Don't Know !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Esther Van Houten

>wrote: > Hi , whats your story. And how come only 5 days! Are

>you > also one of the very few who cannot have a band? Have you looked

>into > other things, and if so, what?EstherPS Sorry about the 20

>questions, > but I am interested. > > > eGroups

>Sponsor > >

[Guest guest]

Pneumonia ...is that better

Dave & wrote:

> I've never heard of phenomena - what's that.

>

>

> At 12:14 PM 13/11/00 +0800, you wrote:

> >You are probably the only one left who hasn't heard my story......The

> >surgeon perforated my stomach and had to remove the band after 5

> >days.....was in ICU for 2 days, collapsed lung, phenomena, open op, and the

> >list goes on ( I can truly say that I was lucky I survived ,,with out being

> >to dramatic ) I still have a sore lung and a hernia the size of a rock

> >melon ( due to the op ) and to top it of have gained a few more kilos. As

> >to what I am going to do, Don't Know !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Esther Van Houten

> >wrote: > Hi , whats your story. And how come only 5 days! Are

> >you > also one of the very few who cannot have a band? Have you looked

> >into > other things, and if so, what?EstherPS Sorry about the 20

> >questions, > but I am interested. > > > eGroups

> >Sponsor > >

[Guest guest]

To be honest,,, a second try scares the crap out of me........

Esther Van Houten wrote:

> , how horrible for you. I am glad you survived it all.

>

> Stupid question. Are you able to go back for a second try (perhaps using a

> different surgeon) or is it a case of once bitten twice shy?

>

> Your story does however bring things a little more into perspective. At

> least I did have one good band and I did lose 37 kgs, although I think my

> battle has just begun.

>

> Keep in touch.

>

> Esther

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

I just wanted to add my voice to the chorus. I am truly sorry to hear the

news Esther, you hang in there! We are all thinking of you and wishing you

the best.

Kate

[Guest guest]

Hi Grace, it is the other problems that I have, mainly dismotility and stasis that they feel would stay with me, even if I had bypass. I will question all of this next time I go.

Esther

[Guest guest]

I thought you would like to know everytime you send an email on ozband it

has an attachment - i have not looked at it thinking it might be a virus -

but all the ones you sent while I have been away were with an attachment -

I am wondering if anyone else is getting this or as I am sending this back

to you - do you get the attachment back

if so do not open

hally

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> From: diana.bosman@...

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> Subject: RE: Esther

> Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 8:07 AM

>

>

>

> Hi Esther,

>

> Are you from Melbourne or Adelaide??

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Esther Van Houten on 15/11/2000 08:16:31

>

> Please respond to ozbandegroups

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> To: " 'ozbandegroups' " <ozbandegroups>

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> Subject: RE: Esther

>

>

>

> Hi Grace, it is the other problems that I have, mainly dismotility and

> stasis that they feel would stay with me, even if I had bypass. I will

> question all of this next time I go.

>

> Esther

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Esther,

Are you from Melbourne or Adelaide??

Esther Van Houten on 15/11/2000 08:16:31

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Hi Grace, it is the other problems that I have, mainly dismotility and

stasis that they feel would stay with me, even if I had bypass. I will

question all of this next time I go.

Esther

Hi Grace, it is the other problems that I have, mainly dismotility and stasis that they feel would stay with me, even if I had bypass. I will question all of this next time I go. Esther

[Guest guest]

Hi , I am a Melbourne girl through and through.

Esther

[Guest guest]

Hi Hally,

No I don't get the attachment back............I also havn't sent any. I don't

know why it's doing that?!?!?! Anyone else have any ideas??

)

" hilaryannelowe " on 15/11/2000 08:38:55

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I thought you would like to know everytime you send an email on ozband it

has an attachment - i have not looked at it thinking it might be a virus -

but all the ones you sent while I have been away were with an attachment -

I am wondering if anyone else is getting this or as I am sending this back

to you - do you get the attachment back

if so do not open

hally

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> From: diana.bosman@...

> To: ozbandegroups

> Subject: RE: Esther

> Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 8:07 AM

>

>

>

> Hi Esther,

>

> Are you from Melbourne or Adelaide??

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Esther Van Houten on 15/11/2000 08:16:31

>

> Please respond to ozbandegroups

>

> To: " 'ozbandegroups' " <ozbandegroups>

> cc: (bcc: Bosman/Rainsfords/Britax)

> Subject: RE: Esther

>

>

>

> Hi Grace, it is the other problems that I have, mainly dismotility and

> stasis that they feel would stay with me, even if I had bypass. I will

> question all of this next time I go.

>

> Esther

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

the attachment is not sent with your emails every time, but it is called

'att.htm'...so I'd say it's a virus....you might need to have your computer

checked. Maybe start out looking in your signature thingy in outlook

express

Geri

RE: Esther

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Grace, it is the other problems that I have, mainly dismotility and

> > stasis that they feel would stay with me, even if I had bypass. I will

> > question all of this next time I go.

> >

> > Esther

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Geri,

How are you??.................havn't seen you on the list for a

while.....everything going OK?? We missed you at the last meeting, not very

exciting anyway, " exercise " yuuuukkk. (hehe)

)

" Geri Harfield " on 15/11/2000 12:58:22

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,

the attachment is not sent with your emails every time, but it is called

'att.htm'...so I'd say it's a virus....you might need to have your computer

checked. Maybe start out looking in your signature thingy in outlook

express

Geri

RE: Esther

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Grace, it is the other problems that I have, mainly dismotility and

> > stasis that they feel would stay with me, even if I had bypass. I will

> > question all of this next time I go.

> >

> > Esther

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

I'll let everyone know how I get on.....fingers crossed for a laprascopic op

for the 2nd time!!!

Geri

Re: Esther

>

>

> Hi Geri,

>

> I'm sorry to hear about your problems...................don't worry you

haven't

> put me off.......it's definitely the way to go for me. I'm glad to see

your

> looking on the positive side.....and I understand your decision to have

another

> band....I would too!! People just don't get it do they?? (people that

don't

> have a weight problem that is) If we could do it on our own, we wouldn't

need

> the band............duuuhh!!!!

>

> Anyway, keep your chin up **hug**, and I won't say a word to Elly, my lips

are

> sealed!!!

>

> )

[Guest guest]

Geri,

I'll keep EVERYTHING crossed for you too!!!

)))

[Guest guest]

I am so pleased that you have now found out what the problem is - what a

relief. I thinkyou seem to be on the right track now - seeing your surgeon

once per month and having very small fills. I for one can only tolerate

small fills otherwise i vomit and when flluid is removed it needs to be a

very small amount as then if it is too much i can eat everything and

anything.

good luck and let us know how you are going

hally