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Yes, but they are lovely silk gloves with a faux fur lining. :)

hahaha

But seriously folks...

This list is called SERIOUS Weight Watchers. But it seems we've been

slipping with our purpose here. Now, I am NOT NOT NOT picking on any

one person at ALL... but...

I joined this list because I found it SO darned refreshing to finally

find a place where people were really dedicated to this lifestyle

change. It was a list without the typical " oh it's sooo hard "

and " oh I just couldn't help myself " and " oh poor pitiful me I only

lost 5 pounds this month and I'm so depressed " or " my dog just died

and I just HAD to eat that whole chocolate cake " . It was a place

where you didn't hear " I can't " but rather " I will! "

I'm assuming everyone read the description of this group before they

made that decision to join. I quote:

" No whining allowed! If you attempt your programs half-heartedly,

this is not the group for you. If you binge after weigh-in, not for

you. Only serious weight watchers here! "

If speaking my feelings out makes me the group meanie, then so be

it. But it seems to me that we need to get the FOCUS of this group

back!! Am I a perfect weight watcher? Are you kidding me??? BUT,

it doesn't help any of us if I come to the list moaning about

how " weak " I was and how much I'm struggling. The more positive you

are on the outside, the more it will seep in to the inside!

Beth

" Kallie " <mjkalswt@y...> wrote:

> Hey there Beth, your getting the gloves out I see. Seems like we

> need that eh. Been a little slack here lately.

> Have a great OP wk.

> ~~Kallie~~

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Amen to that!! and NO you are absolutely not a meanie. I joined the

group after reading the intro on the home page myself.

Best to you:

~~Kallie~~

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wrote:

> Yes, but they are lovely silk gloves with a faux fur lining. :)

>

> hahaha

>

> But seriously folks...

>

> This list is called SERIOUS Weight Watchers. But it seems we've

been

> slipping with our purpose here. Now, I am NOT NOT NOT picking on

any

> one person at ALL... but...

>

> I joined this list because I found it SO darned refreshing to

finally

> find a place where people were really dedicated to this lifestyle

> change. It was a list without the typical " oh it's sooo hard "

> and " oh I just couldn't help myself " and " oh poor pitiful me I only

> lost 5 pounds this month and I'm so depressed " or " my dog just died

> and I just HAD to eat that whole chocolate cake " . It was a place

> where you didn't hear " I can't " but rather " I will! "

>

> I'm assuming everyone read the description of this group before

they

> made that decision to join. I quote:

>

> " No whining allowed! If you attempt your programs half-heartedly,

> this is not the group for you. If you binge after weigh-in, not for

> you. Only serious weight watchers here! "

>

> If speaking my feelings out makes me the group meanie, then so be

> it. But it seems to me that we need to get the FOCUS of this group

> back!! Am I a perfect weight watcher? Are you kidding me??? BUT,

> it doesn't help any of us if I come to the list moaning about

> how " weak " I was and how much I'm struggling. The more positive

you

> are on the outside, the more it will seep in to the inside!

>

> Beth

>

>

>

> " Kallie " <mjkalswt@y...> wrote:

> > Hey there Beth, your getting the gloves out I see. Seems like we

> > need that eh. Been a little slack here lately.

> > Have a great OP wk.

> > ~~Kallie~~

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In a message dated 6/13/2003 4:01:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

b_vanes@... writes:

> But seriously folks...

>

> This list is called SERIOUS Weight Watchers. But it seems we've been

> slipping with our purpose here. Now, I am NOT NOT NOT picking on any

> one person

> Beth,

I just have to ask this, as a newcomer to this list: What exactly is it that

has been said that is not in accordance with the purpose of SWW? I mean, can

you give me examples of what NOT to say or ask? I'm feeling like I'll have

to walk on eggshells in order to not say the wrong thing. Can we not say that

we're feeling " stuck " ? Can we not ask if we're combining foods wrongly?

Can we not say we had a bad week . . . .ever?

Yes, I read the policy and I approve of it. I'm very serious about wanting

to get rid of this weight with WW. I'm very serious about wanting to stay on

program and see progress. I love this group and the support it provides. But

I need clearer parameters as to what's allowed and not allowed, if this is

indeed the group for me.

Bette

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Amen, Beth .... positive attitude = success!!!!

Beth wrote:

> Yes, but they are lovely silk gloves with a faux fur lining. :)

>

> hahaha

>

> But seriously folks...

>

> This list is called SERIOUS Weight Watchers. But it seems we've been

> slipping with our purpose here. Now, I am NOT NOT NOT picking on any

> one person at ALL... but...

>

> I joined this list because I found it SO darned refreshing to finally

> find a place where people were really dedicated to this lifestyle

> change. It was a list without the typical " oh it's sooo hard "

> and " oh I just couldn't help myself " and " oh poor pitiful me I only

> lost 5 pounds this month and I'm so depressed " or " my dog just died

> and I just HAD to eat that whole chocolate cake " . It was a place

> where you didn't hear " I can't " but rather " I will! "

>

> I'm assuming everyone read the description of this group before they

> made that decision to join. I quote:

>

> " No whining allowed! If you attempt your programs half-heartedly,

> this is not the group for you. If you binge after weigh-in, not for

> you. Only serious weight watchers here! "

>

> If speaking my feelings out makes me the group meanie, then so be

> it. But it seems to me that we need to get the FOCUS of this group

> back!! Am I a perfect weight watcher? Are you kidding me??? BUT,

> it doesn't help any of us if I come to the list moaning about

> how " weak " I was and how much I'm struggling. The more positive you

> are on the outside, the more it will seep in to the inside!

>

> Beth

>

>

>

> " Kallie " <mjkalswt@y...> wrote:

> > Hey there Beth, your getting the gloves out I see. Seems like we

> > need that eh. Been a little slack here lately.

> > Have a great OP wk.

> > ~~Kallie~~

>

>

>

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I totally agree......great writing Beth! You are to be commended for your

honest opinion, which also just happens to be the truth!

Donna

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Amen, Beth .... positive attitude = success!!!!

Beth wrote:

> Yes, but they are lovely silk gloves with a faux fur lining. :)

>

> hahaha

>

> But seriously folks...

>

> This list is called SERIOUS Weight Watchers. But it seems we've been

> slipping with our purpose here. Now, I am NOT NOT NOT picking on any

> one person at ALL... but...

>

> I joined this list because I found it SO darned refreshing to finally

> find a place where people were really dedicated to this lifestyle

> change. It was a list without the typical " oh it's sooo hard "

> and " oh I just couldn't help myself " and " oh poor pitiful me I only

> lost 5 pounds this month and I'm so depressed " or " my dog just died

> and I just HAD to eat that whole chocolate cake " . It was a place

> where you didn't hear " I can't " but rather " I will! "

>

> I'm assuming everyone read the description of this group before they

> made that decision to join. I quote:

>

> " No whining allowed! If you attempt your programs half-heartedly,

> this is not the group for you. If you binge after weigh-in, not for

> you. Only serious weight watchers here! "

>

> If speaking my feelings out makes me the group meanie, then so be

> it. But it seems to me that we need to get the FOCUS of this group

> back!! Am I a perfect weight watcher? Are you kidding me??? BUT,

> it doesn't help any of us if I come to the list moaning about

> how " weak " I was and how much I'm struggling. The more positive you

> are on the outside, the more it will seep in to the inside!

>

> Beth

>

>

>

> " Kallie " <mjkalswt@y...> wrote:

> > Hey there Beth, your getting the gloves out I see. Seems like we

> > need that eh. Been a little slack here lately.

> > Have a great OP wk.

> > ~~Kallie~~

>

>

>

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I think you're right about the no whining stuff, etc. However, what

I notice is that most of the time, when someone does starting

whining, saying I can't, etc., someone else is around to kick us in

the butt and tell us to get up and get moving and take responsibility

for our problems.

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Bette, I don't think anything you have said or asked has been wring. I

think she was simply saying that we all need to be serious. I took it as in

general, not as anything else. For the weight to come off, you cannot be

wishy washy. Yes, you can have bad days, it's all in how you handle those

bad days. Being serious means committing to WW and the lifestyle. This is

a lifelong journey and cannot be entered into lightly. Saying you can't do

something, saying you ONLY lost ???--this one kills me, any loss is a major

deal, even 1 tenth of a pound. We just all need to be positive and take the

journey one day at a time :)

-- Re: Re: Beth

In a message dated 6/13/2003 4:01:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

b_vanes@... writes:

> But seriously folks...

>

> This list is called SERIOUS Weight Watchers. But it seems we've been

> slipping with our purpose here. Now, I am NOT NOT NOT picking on any

> one person

> Beth,

I just have to ask this, as a newcomer to this list: What exactly is it

that

has been said that is not in accordance with the purpose of SWW? I mean,

can

you give me examples of what NOT to say or ask? I'm feeling like I'll have

to walk on eggshells in order to not say the wrong thing. Can we not say

that

we're feeling " stuck " ? Can we not ask if we're combining foods wrongly?

Can we not say we had a bad week . . . .ever?

Yes, I read the policy and I approve of it. I'm very serious about wanting

to get rid of this weight with WW. I'm very serious about wanting to stay

on

program and see progress. I love this group and the support it provides.

But

I need clearer parameters as to what's allowed and not allowed, if this is

indeed the group for me.

Bette

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Bette,

I was merely giving my opinion. And, in my opinion, there is a

HUMONGUS!!!!!!!!!!!!! difference in saying you're having a bad week,

or are struggling, or asking for advice and whining and complaining

that " I just couldn't help myself... oh I HAD to eat that... etc...

I'm on my period and just couldn't stop eating... etc " . And (again)

in MY opinion, there has been an awful lot of that going on lately on

a list that clearly says " No whining " .

Beth

mousikos@a... wrote:

> Beth,

> I just have to ask this, as a newcomer to this list: What exactly

> is it that has been said that is not in accordance with the purpose

> of SWW? I mean, can you give me examples of what NOT to say or

> ask? I'm feeling like I'll have to walk on eggshells in order to

> not say the wrong thing. Can we not say that we're

> feeling " stuck " ? Can we not ask if we're combining foods

> wrongly? Can we not say we had a bad week . . . .ever?

>

> Yes, I read the policy and I approve of it. I'm very serious about

> wanting to get rid of this weight with WW. I'm very serious about

> wanting to stay on program and see progress. I love this group and

> the support it provides. But I need clearer parameters as to

> what's allowed and not allowed, if this is indeed the group for me.

>

> Bette

> b_vanes@y... writes:

> But seriously folks...

>

> This list is called SERIOUS Weight Watchers. But it seems we've

> been slipping with our purpose here. Now, I am NOT NOT NOT picking

> on any one person

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Go Beth!

I think Kallie was cheering you on, not criticizing you at all. You're

right to remind us what this list is all about. There are a lot of lists

where you can find shoulders to cry on, but if you want to find Babes in

Boots, this is the place! We've donned 'em and we're not afraid to use

'em!

~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

Tory Klementsen, MCP A+

Career and Technology Educator

The successful person will do things that the unsuccessful person will

not.

> Re: Beth

>

>

> Yes, but they are lovely silk gloves with a faux fur lining. :)

>

> hahaha

>

> But seriously folks...

>

> This list is called SERIOUS Weight Watchers. But it seems we've been

> slipping with our purpose here. Now, I am NOT NOT NOT picking on any

> one person at ALL... but...

>

> I joined this list because I found it SO darned refreshing to finally

> find a place where people were really dedicated to this lifestyle

> change. It was a list without the typical " oh it's sooo hard "

> and " oh I just couldn't help myself " and " oh poor pitiful me I only

> lost 5 pounds this month and I'm so depressed " or " my dog just died

> and I just HAD to eat that whole chocolate cake " . It was a place

> where you didn't hear " I can't " but rather " I will! "

>

> I'm assuming everyone read the description of this group before they

> made that decision to join. I quote:

>

> " No whining allowed! If you attempt your programs half-heartedly,

> this is not the group for you. If you binge after weigh-in, not for

> you. Only serious weight watchers here! "

>

> If speaking my feelings out makes me the group meanie, then so be

> it. But it seems to me that we need to get the FOCUS of this group

> back!! Am I a perfect weight watcher? Are you kidding me??? BUT,

> it doesn't help any of us if I come to the list moaning about

> how " weak " I was and how much I'm struggling. The more positive you

> are on the outside, the more it will seep in to the inside!

>

> Beth

>

>

>

> " Kallie " <mjkalswt@y...> wrote:

> > Hey there Beth, your getting the gloves out I see. Seems like we

> > need that eh. Been a little slack here lately.

> > Have a great OP wk.

> > ~~Kallie~~

>

>

>

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Beth...I don't think you a meanie at all. And it it truth about the list and

being positive and truthful with ourselves. Our attitudes will support us or

defeat us. Good job to bring us into focus! Thanks! :o)

Sharon

Keep on looking up!!!

I joined this list because I found it SO darned refreshing to finally

find a place where people were really dedicated to this lifestyle

change. It was a list without the typical " oh it's sooo hard "

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In a message dated 6/13/03 12:22:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mrsmcole@... writes:

> I joined this list because I found it SO darned refreshing to finally

> find a place where people were really dedicated to this lifestyle

> change. It was a list without the typical " oh it's sooo hard "

>

>

>

It is hard but it also is the most realistic plan and it does work so long as

you do it. Last month I decided to try a version of Atkins called South

Beach Diet - it was unralistic for me to think I coudl live withotu carbs but

what

it did teach me is that I can certainyl cut down on them. I was happy to

return to WW and know that there will be times when I can have a bit of this and

that which really satisfy me.

152.6/152.6/130

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