Guest guest Posted August 30, 2000 Report Share Posted August 30, 2000 Jo, no I have never had an experience like that but wish like hell that I was in your shoes. Don't be afraid, be happy and very very proud of yourself. Esther. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2000 Report Share Posted October 20, 2000 Hey Jo, At the rate lots of us seem to be going, we will all be stepping through the minefield of further bariatric surgery. There won't be any of us lapbanders left - be a lonely old group without you and , and all the others who are going ahead with the bypass or the switch. I guess if we all do have to come to this decision, most of us would also agree that not to go ahead with the recommended surgery and live without the band, would be very difficult to do. The thought of going back to morbid obesity and the sense of failure that we would impose upon ourselves would be too much to bear. But let's not get too gloomy - with all the advances and discoveries they are making in this field - we are living in an age when obesity is being recognised as something that can be fixed and we are no longer left there on the outer fringes of society and " medical consciousness " to do it all ourselves. See you soon Dianne ---------- > > To: OzbandEgroups (DOT) Com <ozbandegroups> > Subject: Bits and Peices > Date: Friday, 20 October 2000 1:57 > > Hi all, > > I saw this afternoon, or should I say tonight as he was running 2 > hours late due to 2 emergency surgeries, with the following results. > > I definitely have another prolaps, number 3, which he wont fix. He feels it > would be pointless and I would just be back again. He has of course > recommended the bypass. So it looks like I will be joining the switchers. > I will be having my surgery, which ever way I decide to go, sometime in > November. > > I have said I will go ahead so he could get me on the list, however I want > to get some more info and discuss it with my husband, but I will probably > go ahead. > > I don't ever want to get back to 130 kg and if I have the band out and > nothing else done this will happen. I know my failings and food is the > biggest. I want to be around to see my great grand children. Even if the > switch maintains the weight I am at the moment I will be happy because I > feel 'normal'. > > There is a much lower rate of re-operation with the switch than the band and > hopefully, fingers crossed, this will be it for me. > > Thank you all for your support and I suppose I should ask 'can I please stay > on as a bandster?' > > Jo > Banded 1/12/1997 > Starting BMI 48 > Current BMI 28 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2000 Report Share Posted October 23, 2000 Hi jo I think I am missing something here, what is a prolaps? If you did not have the band redone or fixed, would you be able to leave it as is and maintain the weight that you have now, or would you start gaining weight. I agree for me to go back to being obese would be terrible I could not even think of going back now. It just seems that that the bypass seems so drastic. Is your problem with the band quite common? hally ---------- > > To: OzbandEgroups (DOT) Com <ozbandegroups> > Subject: Bits and Peices > Date: Thursday, October 19, 2000 11:57 PM > > Hi all, > > I saw this afternoon, or should I say tonight as he was running 2 > hours late due to 2 emergency surgeries, with the following results. > > I definitely have another prolaps, number 3, which he wont fix. He feels it > would be pointless and I would just be back again. He has of course > recommended the bypass. So it looks like I will be joining the switchers. > I will be having my surgery, which ever way I decide to go, sometime in > November. > > I have said I will go ahead so he could get me on the list, however I want > to get some more info and discuss it with my husband, but I will probably > go ahead. > > I don't ever want to get back to 130 kg and if I have the band out and > nothing else done this will happen. I know my failings and food is the > biggest. I want to be around to see my great grand children. Even if the > switch maintains the weight I am at the moment I will be happy because I > feel 'normal'. > > There is a much lower rate of re-operation with the switch than the band and > hopefully, fingers crossed, this will be it for me. > > Thank you all for your support and I suppose I should ask 'can I please stay > on as a bandster?' > > Jo > Banded 1/12/1997 > Starting BMI 48 > Current BMI 28 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2000 Report Share Posted October 23, 2000 Hally, The prolapsed is what some people call slippage, the stomach comes up through the band. I have had 3, this is my third. my own thought is that it is more common than we are told about. My surgeon said he has never had anyone with three slippages before. They cant leave the band as is for the long term as it could permanently damage my stomach. wont fix it as he seems to think I will be back again and again. The switch is so I don't regain all the weight I have lost and I can loose the last 10kg. I haven't definitely decided to go ahead as I need to do some more research. Jo Banded 1/12/1997 Starting BMI 48 Current BMI 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2000 Report Share Posted October 23, 2000 thanks for filling me in Jo how terrible that it has happened 3 times - did you have to be cut open each time. i find it quite worrying that so many of you guys over east are having problems with the band, it does seem to be quite common and I was not told of any problems like this at all. i am just worried about you guys having the bypass - i know it is meant to be better these days, but i saw a programme on people in Uk who had had the bypass and they all had to have it reversed due to malnutrition and one girl was seriously ill from it (i think she had to live with a bag), another girl had diahorrea so badly she couldnt leave the house for long periods. Is it really much better these days. Could you leave the band in until they have maybe perfected the band or there have been more of the new bypass surgery procedures done? Is anyone else worred about the bypass and the fact there seems to be major problems with the band? take care all hally ---------- > > To: ozbandegroups > Subject: Re: Bits and Peices > Date: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:01 PM > > Hally, > > The prolapsed is what some people call slippage, the stomach comes up > through the band. I have had 3, this is my third. my own thought is that it > is more common than we are told about. My surgeon said he has never had > anyone with three slippages before. They cant leave the band as is for the > long term as it could permanently damage my stomach. wont fix it as > he seems to think I will be back again and again. > > The switch is so I don't regain all the weight I have lost and I can loose > the last 10kg. I haven't definitely decided to go ahead as I need to do > some more research. > > Jo > Banded 1/12/1997 > Starting BMI 48 > Current BMI 27 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2000 Report Share Posted October 24, 2000 hi sonia we have the same surgeon and yet he has never warned me about vomiting and has never told me about any complications. I just assumed it was all straight forward, the band went it and stayed there - end of story. shows how little i knew about the op before I had it. what is switching? as opposed to bypass hally ---------- > > To: ozbandegroups > Subject: Re: Bits and Peices > Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 9:25 AM > > There are a lot of problems with the band. It is my experience that 20-25% > of people have had complications. If you are the 75-80% who are successful > then that is great. At one stage I thought I was in the 20-25% but it was > fine and has been fine since. > > There are always complications with any type of surgery and thank God (as > far as I am aware) no-one had died from this and most people have a second > option. > > Prolapse of the stomach is not rare. Slippage (where the band slips down > as opposed to prolapse where the stomach comes up through the band) is > reasonably common as is infections. One lady who lives near me had her > band disintegrate inside her due to stomach acids. She had it removed. I > saw it (she kept it on her fridge) and it was all black and pitted. > > The best way to avoid a lot of complications is to keep vomiting to a > minimum. My surgeon could not recommend that highly enough. > > If I have an adverse reaction from the band and have to have it removed. I > will be " switching " or " bypassing " at the same time the band is coming out. > > Regards > > > > At 07:13 AM 10/24/00 +0800, you wrote: > >thanks for filling me in Jo > >how terrible that it has happened 3 times - did you have to be cut open > >each time. > > > >i find it quite worrying that so many of you guys over east are having > >problems with the band, it does seem to be quite common and I was not told > >of any problems like this at all. > > > >i am just worried about you guys having the bypass - i know it is meant to > >be better these days, but i saw a programme on people in Uk who had had the > >bypass and they all had to have it reversed due to malnutrition and one > >girl was seriously ill from it (i think she had to live with a bag), > >another girl had diahorrea so badly she couldnt leave the house for long > >periods. > > > >Is it really much better these days. > > > >Could you leave the band in until they have maybe perfected the band or > >there have been more of the new bypass surgery procedures done? > > > >Is anyone else worred about the bypass and the fact there seems to be major > >problems with the band? > > > >take care all > > > >hally > > > >---------- > >> > >> To: ozbandegroups > >> Subject: Re: Bits and Peices > >> Date: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:01 PM > >> > >> Hally, > >> > >> The prolapsed is what some people call slippage, the stomach comes up > >> through the band. I have had 3, this is my third. my own thought is that > >it > >> is more common than we are told about. My surgeon said he has never had > >> anyone with three slippages before. They cant leave the band as is for > >the > >> long term as it could permanently damage my stomach. wont fix it > >as > >> he seems to think I will be back again and again. > >> > >> The switch is so I don't regain all the weight I have lost and I can > >loose > >> the last 10kg. I haven't definitely decided to go ahead as I need to do > >> some more research. > >> > >> Jo > >> Banded 1/12/1997 > >> Starting BMI 48 > >> Current BMI 27 > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2000 Report Share Posted October 24, 2000 Joy Looking at yoru stats - I was probably not told about complications as they seem very few and far between. Who do you work for and are you in WA hally ---------- > > To: ozbandegroups > Subject: Re: Bits and Peices > Date: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 5:10 PM > > Hi , I wonder where you get your stats from? > The surgeon that did my band and I now work for has a complication rate of > about 5 % > I know because I maintain his data base This is out of approximately 380 > bands in the past 4 1/2 years > only 1 band erosion and 12 with slippage. I had to give him the figures > today. > regards Joy > Re: Bits and Peices > >> >> Date: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:01 PM > >> >> > >> >> Hally, > >> >> > >> >> The prolapsed is what some people call slippage, the stomach comes up > >> >> through the band. I have had 3, this is my third. my own thought is > >that > >> >it > >> >> is more common than we are told about. My surgeon said he has never > >had > >> >> anyone with three slippages before. They cant leave the band as is > >for > >> >the > >> >> long term as it could permanently damage my stomach. wont fix > >it > >> >as > >> >> he seems to think I will be back again and again. > >> >> > >> >> The switch is so I don't regain all the weight I have lost and I can > >> >loose > >> >> the last 10kg. I haven't definitely decided to go ahead as I need to > >do > >> >> some more research. > >> >> > >> >> Jo > >> >> Banded 1/12/1997 > >> >> Starting BMI 48 > >> >> Current BMI 27 > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2000 Report Share Posted October 24, 2000 which state are you in - i have just read further emails and it seems that people are having more problems with the band over in the east than in the west. i have had no problems and pray that it stays that way take care all hally ---------- > > To: ozbandegroups > Subject: Re: Bits and Peices > Date: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 9:20 PM > > Hally , I get the information straight from the notes > Joy > Re: Bits and Peices > >> >> >> Date: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:01 PM > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Hally, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> The prolapsed is what some people call slippage, the stomach comes > >up > >> >> >> through the band. I have had 3, this is my third. my own thought > >is > >> >that > >> >> >it > >> >> >> is more common than we are told about. My surgeon said he has > >never > >> >had > >> >> >> anyone with three slippages before. They cant leave the band as is > >> >for > >> >> >the > >> >> >> long term as it could permanently damage my stomach. wont > >fix > >> >it > >> >> >as > >> >> >> he seems to think I will be back again and again. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> The switch is so I don't regain all the weight I have lost and I > >can > >> >> >loose > >> >> >> the last 10kg. I haven't definitely decided to go ahead as I need > >to > >> >do > >> >> >> some more research. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Jo > >> >> >> Banded 1/12/1997 > >> >> >> Starting BMI 48 > >> >> >> Current BMI 27 > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2000 Report Share Posted October 24, 2000 looking forwrad to seeing you at the restaurant hally ---------- > > To: ozbandegroups > Subject: Re: Bits and Peices > Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 11:50 PM > > well, what can I say there, then. Talk to you more at the dinner, Hally. > > > > > At 04:59 PM 10/24/00 +0800, you wrote: > >hi sonia > > > >we have the same surgeon and yet he has never warned me about vomiting and > >has never told me about any complications. I just assumed it was all > >straight forward, the band went it and stayed there - end of story. > > > >shows how little i knew about the op before I had it. > > > >what is switching? as opposed to bypass > > > >hally > > > >---------- > >> > >> To: ozbandegroups > >> Subject: Re: Bits and Peices > >> Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 9:25 AM > >> > >> There are a lot of problems with the band. It is my experience that > >20-25% > >> of people have had complications. If you are the 75-80% who are > >successful > >> then that is great. At one stage I thought I was in the 20-25% but it > >was > >> fine and has been fine since. > >> > >> There are always complications with any type of surgery and thank God (as > >> far as I am aware) no-one had died from this and most people have a > >second > >> option. > >> > >> Prolapse of the stomach is not rare. Slippage (where the band slips down > >> as opposed to prolapse where the stomach comes up through the band) is > >> reasonably common as is infections. One lady who lives near me had her > >> band disintegrate inside her due to stomach acids. She had it removed. > >I > >> saw it (she kept it on her fridge) and it was all black and pitted. > >> > >> The best way to avoid a lot of complications is to keep vomiting to a > >> minimum. My surgeon could not recommend that highly enough. > >> > >> If I have an adverse reaction from the band and have to have it removed. > >I > >> will be " switching " or " bypassing " at the same time the band is coming > >out. > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> > >> > >> At 07:13 AM 10/24/00 +0800, you wrote: > >> >thanks for filling me in Jo > >> >how terrible that it has happened 3 times - did you have to be cut open > >> >each time. > >> > > >> >i find it quite worrying that so many of you guys over east are having > >> >problems with the band, it does seem to be quite common and I was not > >told > >> >of any problems like this at all. > >> > > >> >i am just worried about you guys having the bypass - i know it is meant > >to > >> >be better these days, but i saw a programme on people in Uk who had had > >the > >> >bypass and they all had to have it reversed due to malnutrition and one > >> >girl was seriously ill from it (i think she had to live with a bag), > >> >another girl had diahorrea so badly she couldnt leave the house for long > >> >periods. > >> > > >> >Is it really much better these days. > >> > > >> >Could you leave the band in until they have maybe perfected the band or > >> >there have been more of the new bypass surgery procedures done? > >> > > >> >Is anyone else worred about the bypass and the fact there seems to be > >major > >> >problems with the band? > >> > > >> >take care all > >> > > >> >hally > >> > > >> >---------- > >> >> > >> >> To: ozbandegroups > >> >> Subject: Re: Bits and Peices > >> >> Date: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:01 PM > >> >> > >> >> Hally, > >> >> > >> >> The prolapsed is what some people call slippage, the stomach comes up > >> >> through the band. I have had 3, this is my third. my own thought is > >that > >> >it > >> >> is more common than we are told about. My surgeon said he has never > >had > >> >> anyone with three slippages before. They cant leave the band as is > >for > >> >the > >> >> long term as it could permanently damage my stomach. wont fix > >it > >> >as > >> >> he seems to think I will be back again and again. > >> >> > >> >> The switch is so I don't regain all the weight I have lost and I can > >> >loose > >> >> the last 10kg. I haven't definitely decided to go ahead as I need to > >do > >> >> some more research. > >> >> > >> >> Jo > >> >> Banded 1/12/1997 > >> >> Starting BMI 48 > >> >> Current BMI 27 > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2000 Report Share Posted October 25, 2000 Hi , I wonder where you get your stats from? The surgeon that did my band and I now work for has a complication rate of about 5 % I know because I maintain his data base This is out of approximately 380 bands in the past 4 1/2 years only 1 band erosion and 12 with slippage. I had to give him the figures today. regards Joy Re: Bits and Peices >> >> Date: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:01 PM >> >> >> >> Hally, >> >> >> >> The prolapsed is what some people call slippage, the stomach comes up >> >> through the band. I have had 3, this is my third. my own thought is >that >> >it >> >> is more common than we are told about. My surgeon said he has never >had >> >> anyone with three slippages before. They cant leave the band as is >for >> >the >> >> long term as it could permanently damage my stomach. wont fix >it >> >as >> >> he seems to think I will be back again and again. >> >> >> >> The switch is so I don't regain all the weight I have lost and I can >> >loose >> >> the last 10kg. I haven't definitely decided to go ahead as I need to >do >> >> some more research. >> >> >> >> Jo >> >> Banded 1/12/1997 >> >> Starting BMI 48 >> >> Current BMI 27 >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2000 Report Share Posted October 25, 2000 Hally , I get the information straight from the notes Joy Re: Bits and Peices >> >> >> Date: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:01 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> Hally, >> >> >> >> >> >> The prolapsed is what some people call slippage, the stomach comes >up >> >> >> through the band. I have had 3, this is my third. my own thought >is >> >that >> >> >it >> >> >> is more common than we are told about. My surgeon said he has >never >> >had >> >> >> anyone with three slippages before. They cant leave the band as is >> >for >> >> >the >> >> >> long term as it could permanently damage my stomach. wont >fix >> >it >> >> >as >> >> >> he seems to think I will be back again and again. >> >> >> >> >> >> The switch is so I don't regain all the weight I have lost and I >can >> >> >loose >> >> >> the last 10kg. I haven't definitely decided to go ahead as I need >to >> >do >> >> >> some more research. >> >> >> >> >> >> Jo >> >> >> Banded 1/12/1997 >> >> >> Starting BMI 48 >> >> >> Current BMI 27 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2000 Report Share Posted October 25, 2000 Hi , I dont know where you would have the opportunity to see DR 's stats. He has some on his web page but they are badly in need of updating (as is the whole web page). Dr dose present stats at conferences like the international one recently held in Genoa, Italy and Australian conferences. I think most Australian lapband Dr`s keep stats and you could ask your own Dr for his figures. The stats certainly do vary from Dr to Dr ie we have on Dr here in Adelaide that had a 25% slippage rate and he decided to stop doing the band and stick to the Bypass. I think suzy`s point about " Most of this talk about complications is subjective " is a good one regards Joy They are not stats, just my experience. I had 20 members on my support >list and 4 or 5 of them had complications that led to removal. Possibly a >co-incidence or just plain bad luck. I would like to see some official >stats on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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