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--- In NaturalThyroidHormones , " immlach "

> I know one form of hypothyroid can cause a " buffalo hump " on the

base

> of the neck, but what about this arm thing?

> I have seen a bunch of overweight people, and hardly any have these

> weird arms.

> Anyone else experience this or know about it?

> ps- thankfully, due to diet and exercise and maybe even the Armour,

> my " wings " are way smaller than 2 years ago!!!!! Thank you God!

I had a client who had that and told me it is genetic....she said

even the thinner women in her family had them...but what I gathered

from what she told me is that this is the place the women in the

family family carries weight earlier than most...you know, like some

women are bigger in the hip area, put weight on in the thighs first,

or have skinny legs, but bigger tummies or distribute extra weight

evenly....this girl had planned to have something done surgically to

hers...but it wasn't horrible, just yes...I know what you mean.

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Buffalo hump is a classic symptom of Cushings not thyroid

Re: weight related Q

--- In NaturalThyroidHormones , " immlach "

> I know one form of hypothyroid can cause a " buffalo hump " on the

base

> of the neck, but what about this arm thing?

> I have seen a bunch of overweight people, and hardly any have these

> weird arms.

> Anyone else experience this or know about it?

> ps- thankfully, due to diet and exercise and maybe even the Armour,

> my " wings " are way smaller than 2 years ago!!!!! Thank you God!

I had a client who had that and told me it is genetic....she said

even the thinner women in her family had them...but what I gathered

from what she told me is that this is the place the women in the

family family carries weight earlier than most...you know, like some

women are bigger in the hip area, put weight on in the thighs first,

or have skinny legs, but bigger tummies or distribute extra weight

evenly....this girl had planned to have something done surgically to

hers...but it wasn't horrible, just yes...I know what you mean.

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I'm wondering... someone with adrenal fatigue has a tendency to gain

weight in the upper back.. often referred to as a hump... mine was bad

enough to make it uncomfortable to lay on my back in bed.. it would push

my neck out of alignment and cause head, neck and shoulder pain... In

just a few months after starting adrenal supplements.. mine is gone.....

Wonder if it's the same thing?

I even fit in a woman's shirt now... I'm lost that many inches in that

area where my shoulders will now fit in a woman's top......

I've been working really hard on toning exercises for my upper arms... so

far so good.. the skin is shrinking along with the reduction of fat.. I'm

not getting flaps there... but I'm having noticeable problems with loose

skin on the insides of my thighs and my belly... and a little bit at the

base of my neck... as multiple chins are slowly turning back to one.. I'm

finding loosening skin along my collar bone....

Topper ()

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 22:21:10 -0000 " astrodiana "

writes:

> --- In NaturalThyroidHormones , " immlach "

> > I know one form of hypothyroid can cause a " buffalo hump " on the

> base of the neck, but what about this arm thing?

> > I have seen a bunch of overweight people, and hardly any have

> these weird arms.

> > Anyone else experience this or know about it?

> > ps- thankfully, due to diet and exercise and maybe even the

> Armour,

> > my " wings " are way smaller than 2 years ago!!!!! Thank you God!

> I had a client who had that and told me it is genetic....she said

> even the thinner women in her family had them...but what I gathered

> from what she told me is that this is the place the women in the

> family family carries weight earlier than most...you know, like some

> women are bigger in the hip area, put weight on in the thighs first,

> or have skinny legs, but bigger tummies or distribute extra weight

> evenly....this girl had planned to have something done surgically to

> hers...but it wasn't horrible, just yes...I know what you mean.

>

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> I'm wondering... someone with adrenal fatigue has a tendency to gain

> weight in the upper back.. often referred to as a hump... mine was

bad

> enough to make it uncomfortable to lay on my back in bed.. it would

push

> my neck out of alignment and cause head, neck and shoulder pain...

In

> just a few months after starting adrenal supplements.. mine is

gone.....

>

> Wonder if it's the same thing?

>

> I even fit in a woman's shirt now... I'm lost that many inches in

that

> area where my shoulders will now fit in a woman's top......

>

> I've been working really hard on toning exercises for my upper

arms... so

> far so good.. the skin is shrinking along with the reduction of

fat.. I'm

> not getting flaps there... but I'm having noticeable problems with

loose

> skin on the insides of my thighs and my belly... and a little bit

at the

> base of my neck... as multiple chins are slowly turning back to

one.. I'm

> finding loosening skin along my collar bone....

>

> Topper ()

I was reading people who questioned loose skin after stomach

reduction and loss of 100 lbs or more..and they said that skin

elasticity is somewhat genetic and also takes time but can return to

normal without surgery in some people - and of course, the younger

you are, the more likely it will happen faster. But, if you think

about the fact that within 7 years, every cell in our bodies is

replaced with new ones (except the brain) that also gives a little

hope to things returning with time...we aren't the same person we

were 7 years ago!! :) I have heard of pain in the upper back,

neck/collar area with hypothyroid...my son had it terribly...wonder

if that also has something to do with lack of proper circulation, etc

in that area???

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Ahhhhh Hope for my flabby skin! Yeaaaaa... hehehehehehehe

I've heard of spinal problems with hypo too.. but don't really know

enough about it...

anyone here have some info on that subject?

Topper ()

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 23:19:51 -0000 " astrodiana "

writes:

> I was reading people who questioned loose skin after stomach

> reduction and loss of 100 lbs or more..and they said that skin

> elasticity is somewhat genetic and also takes time but can return to

> normal without surgery in some people - and of course, the younger

> you are, the more likely it will happen faster. But, if you think

> about the fact that within 7 years, every cell in our bodies is

> replaced with new ones (except the brain) that also gives a little

> hope to things returning with time...we aren't the same person we

> were 7 years ago!! :) I have heard of pain in the upper back,

> neck/collar area with hypothyroid...my son had it terribly...wonder

> if that also has something to do with lack of proper circulation, etc

> in that area???

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Hello Topper,

I think the loose skin is because you are losing all of that weight! the

younger we are when we lose the tighter the skin draws up after weight

loss...give it time...it will get better. Keep excercising the inner thigh the

muscle

will burn more calories and it looks so much nicer under skin than bones! :-)

You are doing great....I just smiled so big when you told of your goals for

excercise in the future....I wish we lived closer cause I would like to join

you! :-)

Keep up the great work,

Loriann

> shrinking along with the reduction of fat.. I'm

> not getting flaps there... but I'm having noticeable problems with loose

> skin on the insides of my thighs and my belly... and a little bit at the

> base of my neck... as multiple chins are slowly turning back to one.. I'm

> finding loosening skin along my collar bone....

>

> Topper ()

>

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when there is large weight loss after stretching the skins so far, it will never

shrink much if you are past 45. I spoke to a doctor. I am 49, have 100 to lose.

he said just get used to it or have it pulled, but even then it is a major

surgery.

Jamy

Patient Advocate/Board Member American Thyroid Patients

Website:http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Thyroid_Groups/

Re: Re: weight related Q

Hello Topper,

I think the loose skin is because you are losing all of that weight! the

younger we are when we lose the tighter the skin draws up after weight

loss...give it time...it will get better. Keep excercising the inner thigh

the muscle

will burn more calories and it looks so much nicer under skin than bones! :-)

You are doing great....I just smiled so big when you told of your goals for

excercise in the future....I wish we lived closer cause I would like to join

you! :-)

Keep up the great work,

Loriann

> shrinking along with the reduction of fat.. I'm

> not getting flaps there... but I'm having noticeable problems with loose

> skin on the insides of my thighs and my belly... and a little bit at the

> base of my neck... as multiple chins are slowly turning back to one.. I'm

> finding loosening skin along my collar bone....

>

> Topper ()

>

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Come up with some similar goals.. then we can compare how we are doing...

heheheeh I'm so looking forward to it... I just drool thinking about that

luscious can of Mtn Dew.. and it will be ONLY a can, even though that is

the most expensive... If I can get to the point of going the 2 1/2 miles

into town.. I'll be stopping at that gas station for a 2 liter and a

sandwich!!! hehehhe then I'll rest and do the 2 1/2 mile back... Don't

know if I'll make that this year..... Last year it was a challenge to

get to the bathroom about 20 feet away... so I've come a long way

already, I think!!!

I'm doing a lot of stretching and moving and massaging, in addition to

the light weights... getting my body to remember all the parts of

itself...gosh it's sounds dorky to put it in writing like that... but

something tells me that when your body is messed up for a long time and

struggling just to do everyday things, like digest food or to sleep..

that it forgets some of the basic things and needs to be reminded a bit

that there are some other maintenance issues that it can start checking

into working on...

I'm losing weight AND building muscle.. so stuff is rearranging under my

skin to... the muscle is carried higher and tighter than the fat.. and

the skin is all of a sudden not needed in places.. in a way.. it's kinda

fascinating to watch.. when I get around the paranoia I have about

looking like a 6 week old Shar Pei!

I look totally weird when I'm messing with my neck.... I got teased doing

that in the kitchen the other day..... but heck.. the more I draw my

body's attention to an area.. the sooner it might get things moving in

the right direction!!!

Topper ()

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 12:47:05 EST azippetydodaday@... writes:

> Hello Topper,

>

> I think the loose skin is because you are losing all of that weight!

> the

> younger we are when we lose the tighter the skin draws up after

> weight

> loss...give it time...it will get better. Keep excercising the

> inner thigh the muscle

> will burn more calories and it looks so much nicer under skin than

> bones! :-)

> You are doing great....I just smiled so big when you told of your

> goals for

> excercise in the future....I wish we lived closer cause I would like

> to join you! :-)

> Keep up the great work,

> Loriann

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I'm still trying to go into this with a positive spirit... we're hypo...

every thing else in our physical selves has been moving in slow motion...

so if he says 45 for a normal person... maybe it's 55 for us????? I'm

46... and just gonna concentrate on encouraging my body to be healthy..

to remind it of it's own power.... Our bodies are pretty miraculous...

look at what they've already survived!!!!!

Topper ()

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 10:39:17 -0800 " JAMY "

writes:

> when there is large weight loss after stretching the skins so far, it

> will never shrink much if you are past 45. I spoke to a doctor. I am

> 49, have 100 to lose. he said just get used to it or have it pulled,

> but even then it is a major surgery.

> Jamy

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