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>Donna, that makes all the sense in the world. But just a reminder that

if

you earn acitivity points, it is better to use them. I had several weeks

where I lost nothing and then had a big gain, 2.6 pounds. And I was in

my

point range the entire time, in fact eating at my low points everyday.

Well

I went into starvation mode, the next week I ate at least my minimum

points

and my activity points and had a good loss, 2.4 and have lost at least 2

pounds per week since then. One thing about this program is it really is

good to eat all your points.

--------------------

I need to understand this more--are you saying because you were more

active and didn't eat more because of it, that it in effect made you gain

weight? Or am I way off?

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, thanks for this post. It has really got me to thinking.

Now, I don't exercise " like a mad woman " , but I DO exercise every

day, and most days I will not only eat a few points under my limit

(remember, no range here, just a set number of points per day) AND

not eat my exercise points (even though most days it's just 2 or 3).

A lot of times I end up not having as big a loss as I think I should

have after a " perfect " week. So, what've I got to lose (pun intended!

lol)? I'm going to eat ALL my points this week and see if there are

any changes.

Beth

" " <sihughes@b...> wrote:

> Yes, in order to loose weight you must eat a minimum number of

> calories per day. SO if you are eating this number (ie, your point

> range) you are fine. However you start burning those calories you

> need to replenish them. It's kind of like you body needs fuel

> (Calories) and if you exercise you are burning that fuel. And if

> your body feels like you are not getting enough fuel it will start

> holding on to stored fat, kind of like if you starved yourself.

> So when I had these issues, I talked to my WW leader and she

> explained this to me, it made perfect sense. But, technically you

> are supposed to use no more than 4 AP a day. So unless you are

> exercising like a mad woman you should be ok to eat the high end of

> your range everyday. So in essence, if you have points, you might

> as well eat them!!!

>

> I think alot of people are under the " diet mentality " and think the

> less they eat the better off they are. WW really has changed that

> way of thinking for me. I have been on program for over a year now

> and I can look back at my weeks that I have gained or had a minimal

> loss and there are very low point days in those weeks. The weeks

> with my biggest losses are those that I use the majority of my

> points.

>

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When I left WW the week of the 2.6 pound gain, I was almost in tears. But

then I emailed my journals to my leader and she told me all this, like I

said, it made perfect sense. I had a hard time convincing myself to eat all

of my points, so I started at least eating my low range points and all AP's.

Now I don't stress at all if I eat all of my points, or even banked points

at that.

-- Re: question

, thanks for this post. It has really got me to thinking.

Now, I don't exercise " like a mad woman " , but I DO exercise every

day, and most days I will not only eat a few points under my limit

(remember, no range here, just a set number of points per day) AND

not eat my exercise points (even though most days it's just 2 or 3).

A lot of times I end up not having as big a loss as I think I should

have after a " perfect " week. So, what've I got to lose (pun intended!

lol)? I'm going to eat ALL my points this week and see if there are

any changes.

Beth

" " <sihughes@b...> wrote:

> Yes, in order to loose weight you must eat a minimum number of

> calories per day. SO if you are eating this number (ie, your point

> range) you are fine. However you start burning those calories you

> need to replenish them. It's kind of like you body needs fuel

> (Calories) and if you exercise you are burning that fuel. And if

> your body feels like you are not getting enough fuel it will start

> holding on to stored fat, kind of like if you starved yourself.

> So when I had these issues, I talked to my WW leader and she

> explained this to me, it made perfect sense. But, technically you

> are supposed to use no more than 4 AP a day. So unless you are

> exercising like a mad woman you should be ok to eat the high end of

> your range everyday. So in essence, if you have points, you might

> as well eat them!!!

>

> I think alot of people are under the " diet mentality " and think the

> less they eat the better off they are. WW really has changed that

> way of thinking for me. I have been on program for over a year now

> and I can look back at my weeks that I have gained or had a minimal

> loss and there are very low point days in those weeks. The weeks

> with my biggest losses are those that I use the majority of my

> points.

>

>

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I agree, try to come up with a positive plan! Where are you going?

Here are a couple of suggestions:

-first, forget about losing weight and concentrate on maintaining and not

having any big binges. The idea is to come back the same size you started.

-watch the *alcohol* - that will add points more than ANYTHING, plus it is

so easy to overeat

while drinking! If you drink, plan ahead of time to limit it.

-eat at least some of your meals in your hotel room or picnicking. You

ought to be able to buy bread, cheese, some fruits and veggies, maybe meat

or yogurt, maybe canned soup. Be creative, you don't have to have breakfast

foods at breakfast time! Bring a little hot pot and a can opener and some

picnic stuff and buy a knife when you get there. You'll save *huge*

amounts of calories if you can make one meal a day a sandwich and an apple!

There's bound to be a grocery store *somewhere* and finding it may be an

adventure in itself, taking you away from the regular " tourist " strip and

all its overpriced temptations! (You'll also save a lot of money, even at

high island prices! And you'll feel better not eating grease three times a day)

-when you eat out, splurge on stuff that is really special, but don't eat

blah, everyday stuff just because it is *there*. Like bread that was

frozen, or oily mixes in the salad bar, or french fries, or sugar soda. Or

french fries! Save your splurges for the local seafood stew or whatever the

special treats are. If you must go to KFC eat green beans and corn and just

one piece of chicken.

-try to find out where non-tourists eat. There *must* be a local seafood

shack or something and again, an adventure!

-get a good brisk walk every day. Find places where you can walk instead of

taking a bus. If you go shopping, get off at one end, walk briskly to the

other, stroll back shopping (and if the bus is picking you up at the other

end, walk back again!) Walk on the beach, walk around the grounds, keep

moving.

and finally, have fun! You'll probably do SO much better on this trip than

you would have without weight watchers!

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AMEN!

You've got time before you leave, PLAN! Make some steps now to make sure

that you can have an on program vacation.

Take some low point favorites with you. Find a grocery store as soon as

you get there and stock up. Does someone force you to go to greasy fast

food places? Maybe if its too much for the family to handle healthy food

for every meal, swap off choosing where you eat. You choose one day,

then Dad, then you, then the kids (definitely reserve the right to

choose more often than the kids). If you know you go to KFC, find low

point options now on www.dwlz.com and plan for what you'll eat.

Take a stability ball with you and blow it up there. Walk, run, move

move move.

What are you going on vacation for? To eat? No, to have FUN with your

family amd make wonderful memories! Will you take pictures of the meals

you eat? NO! You'll take pictures of the experiences you have.

It's all in the attitude, baby! Right now you sound like you're either a

defeatist (well there's no way to stay on program, so I know I'll gain),

or a rationalizer (well...we HAVE to eat at bad places so I have

'permission' to go completely off program, and it really won't be MY

fault). Instead of those, be a planner!

~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

Tory Klementsen, MCP A+

Career and Technology Educator

The successful person will do things that the unsuccessful person will

not.

> Re: question

>

>

>

> > It's been a long time since i've posted. I'm still here and I'm

> down about 33.5 pounds since I started 5 months ago. >>

>

> Congrats on those 33.5 pounds!!!!!!!

>

> >>But I'm afraid that when I'm down there, everything is going to go

> askew and I'll lose that momentum that has taken 5 months to build.

> There is no gym that I can use on the island without a year

> membership or on the property where we will stay. And the restaurants

> we usually go to serve fatty foods (think hamburgers, hot dogs and

> KFC - the only American restaurant on the island).>>

>

> It sounds to me like you are gearing yourself up for a weight gain

> during your vacation and that's NOT what you want to do. Instead of

> thinking about the negatvies (not place to exercise and bad food)

> start thinking about the positives. You can walk or run along the

> beach, scuba dive, snorkel or just swim! How about dancing at a night

> club? If you are into toning - take along a stretch band and work out

> with that. If you would rather strength training, take some small

> weights or run to a store once you get there and get some big cans of

> soup (or some other heavy canned food). As far as the food is

> cocerned, you just need to make good choices! I'm sure you can find

> some grilled chicken or seafood somewhere on the island, can't you?

> How about salads or just smaller portions of meat? Take some low

> point snacks with you, look for opportunities to earn AP's and make

> good food choices and journal, journal, journal!

>

> Most importantly, IMHO, keep reminding yourself that you are not on

> vacation to EAT, but to enjoy yourself. Don't let the fatty food get

> in the way of your fun. Just eat what you need to and then go enjoy

> yourself. You'll do great and have a good time :)

>

> Congrats again and have a good time ~ Pam

>

>

>

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Tory,

Thanks for waking me up again!

I was doing so great before the holiday weekend! Was

finally at the point were I was feeling alittle of that

thin feeling again (felt great) I had lost 7 lbs & 51/2

inches for a month. Well memorial weekend hit and I can't

seem to get back into it =-(

Why does a person do this to themselves?? Guess it is

called motiavation, right!

Well, I best find some because I have a ton of challeges

coming up!!

Kim R

On Wed, 28 May 2003 21:58:52 -0700

" Tory K " wrote:

>AMEN!

>

>You've got time before you leave, PLAN! Make some steps

>now to make sure

>that you can have an on program vacation.

>

>Take some low point favorites with you. Find a grocery

>store as soon as

>you get there and stock up. Does someone force you to go

>to greasy fast

>food places? Maybe if its too much for the family to

>handle healthy food

>for every meal, swap off choosing where you eat. You

>choose one day,

>then Dad, then you, then the kids (definitely reserve the

>right to

>choose more often than the kids). If you know you go to

>KFC, find low

>point options now on www.dwlz.com and plan for what

>you'll eat.

>

>Take a stability ball with you and blow it up there.

>Walk, run, move

>move move.

>

>What are you going on vacation for? To eat? No, to have

>FUN with your

>family amd make wonderful memories! Will you take

>pictures of the meals

>you eat? NO! You'll take pictures of the experiences you

>have.

>

>It's all in the attitude, baby! Right now you sound like

>you're either a

>defeatist (well there's no way to stay on program, so I

>know I'll gain),

>or a rationalizer (well...we HAVE to eat at bad places so

>I have

>'permission' to go completely off program, and it really

>won't be MY

>fault). Instead of those, be a planner!

>

>~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

>Tory Klementsen, MCP A+

>Career and Technology Educator

>

>The successful person will do things that the

>unsuccessful person will

>not.

>

>

>> Re: question

>>

>>

>>

>> > It's been a long time since i've posted. I'm still

>>here and I'm

>> down about 33.5 pounds since I started 5 months ago. >>

>>

>> Congrats on those 33.5 pounds!!!!!!!

>>

>> >>But I'm afraid that when I'm down there, everything is

>>going to go

>> askew and I'll lose that momentum that has taken 5

>>months to build.

>> There is no gym that I can use on the island without a

>>year

>> membership or on the property where we will stay. And

>>the restaurants

>> we usually go to serve fatty foods (think hamburgers,

>>hot dogs and

>> KFC - the only American restaurant on the island).>>

>>

>> It sounds to me like you are gearing yourself up for a

>>weight gain

>> during your vacation and that's NOT what you want to do.

>>Instead of

>> thinking about the negatvies (not place to exercise and

>>bad food)

>> start thinking about the positives. You can walk or run

>>along the

>> beach, scuba dive, snorkel or just swim! How about

>>dancing at a night

>> club? If you are into toning - take along a stretch band

>>and work out

>> with that. If you would rather strength training, take

>>some small

>> weights or run to a store once you get there and get

>>some big cans of

>> soup (or some other heavy canned food). As far as the

>>food is

>> cocerned, you just need to make good choices! I'm sure

>>you can find

>> some grilled chicken or seafood somewhere on the island,

>>can't you?

>> How about salads or just smaller portions of meat? Take

>>some low

>> point snacks with you, look for opportunities to earn

>>AP's and make

>> good food choices and journal, journal, journal!

>>

>> Most importantly, IMHO, keep reminding yourself that you

>>are not on

>> vacation to EAT, but to enjoy yourself. Don't let the

>>fatty food get

>> in the way of your fun. Just eat what you need to and

>>then go enjoy

>> yourself. You'll do great and have a good time :)

>>

>> Congrats again and have a good time ~ Pam

>>

>>

>>

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Any time Kim! Just hang onto how you feel when you overindulge and try

to remember it before you start next time. In the long run the extra

food you eat over the weekend isn't worth the feelings of frustration

and anger, nor the extra poundage.

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Tory Klementsen, MCP A+

Career and Technology Educator

The successful person will do things that the unsuccessful person will

not.

> Re: question

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> > It's been a long time since i've posted. I'm still

> >>here and I'm

> >> down about 33.5 pounds since I started 5 months ago. >>

> >>

> >> Congrats on those 33.5 pounds!!!!!!!

> >>

> >> >>But I'm afraid that when I'm down there, everything is

> >>going to go

> >> askew and I'll lose that momentum that has taken 5

> >>months to build.

> >> There is no gym that I can use on the island without a

> >>year

> >> membership or on the property where we will stay. And

> >>the restaurants

> >> we usually go to serve fatty foods (think hamburgers,

> >>hot dogs and

> >> KFC - the only American restaurant on the island).>>

> >>

> >> It sounds to me like you are gearing yourself up for a

> >>weight gain

> >> during your vacation and that's NOT what you want to do.

> >>Instead of

> >> thinking about the negatvies (not place to exercise and

> >>bad food)

> >> start thinking about the positives. You can walk or run

> >>along the

> >> beach, scuba dive, snorkel or just swim! How about

> >>dancing at a night

> >> club? If you are into toning - take along a stretch band

> >>and work out

> >> with that. If you would rather strength training, take

> >>some small

> >> weights or run to a store once you get there and get

> >>some big cans of

> >> soup (or some other heavy canned food). As far as the

> >>food is

> >> cocerned, you just need to make good choices! I'm sure

> >>you can find

> >> some grilled chicken or seafood somewhere on the island,

> >>can't you?

> >> How about salads or just smaller portions of meat? Take

> >>some low

> >> point snacks with you, look for opportunities to earn

> >>AP's and make

> >> good food choices and journal, journal, journal!

> >>

> >> Most importantly, IMHO, keep reminding yourself that you

> >>are not on

> >> vacation to EAT, but to enjoy yourself. Don't let the

> >>fatty food get

> >> in the way of your fun. Just eat what you need to and

> >>then go enjoy

> >> yourself. You'll do great and have a good time :)

> >>

> >> Congrats again and have a good time ~ Pam

> >>

> >>

> >>

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Very well said! I will definitely remember this because vacations/being away

from home is my biggest struggle.

I do have to say though that for some people vacation is all about the food!

My MIL can spend an hour telling you all about what she ate while on

vacation. And worse yet, she'll tell you all about whether it cause her

gastric problems or not!

Kris

-----Original Message-----

From: Tory K

What are you going on vacation for? To eat? No, to have FUN with your

family amd make wonderful memories! Will you take pictures of the meals

you eat? NO! You'll take pictures of the experiences you have.

It's all in the attitude, baby! Right now you sound like you're either a

defeatist (well there's no way to stay on program, so I know I'll gain),

or a rationalizer (well...we HAVE to eat at bad places so I have

'permission' to go completely off program, and it really won't be MY

fault). Instead of those, be a planner!

~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

Tory Klementsen, MCP A+

Career and Technology Educator

The successful person will do things that the unsuccessful person will

not.

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Oh my GOSH Kris! We must be related because my MIL loves to share her

gastric experiences with us as well...not only throw words, but with

sounds too! Always pleasant to sit with someone who doesn't seem to have

any issues with belching repeatedly.

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Tory Klementsen, MCP A+

Career and Technology Educator

The successful person will do things that the unsuccessful person will

not.

> RE: Re: question

>

>

> Very well said! I will definitely remember this because

> vacations/being away from home is my biggest struggle. I do

> have to say though that for some people vacation is all about

> the food! My MIL can spend an hour telling you all about what

> she ate while on vacation. And worse yet, she'll tell you all

> about whether it cause her gastric problems or not!

>

> Kris

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Tory K

>

>

> What are you going on vacation for? To eat? No, to have FUN

> with your

> family amd make wonderful memories! Will you take pictures

> of the meals

> you eat? NO! You'll take pictures of the experiences you have.

>

> It's all in the attitude, baby! Right now you sound like

> you're either a

> defeatist (well there's no way to stay on program, so I

> know I'll gain),

> or a rationalizer (well...we HAVE to eat at bad places so I have

> 'permission' to go completely off program, and it really won't be MY

> fault). Instead of those, be a planner!

>

>

> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

> ~`~`~`~`~`

> Tory Klementsen, MCP A+

> Career and Technology Educator

>

> The successful person will do things that the unsuccessful

> person will

> not.

>

>

>

>

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Oh Kris...it is a multi-sensory experience.

Mine is an inhaler too. We go to buffets and it's like she's in a race

just to get back to it. She isn't THAT overweight, maybe about a size

14, but she has spent probably 3/4 of her adult life on some fad diet,

and the other 1/4 beating herself up because she isn't on a diet.

Honestly, her constant obsession with her weight AND with my wonderful

husband's weight is part of what kept me in this obstinate " I will be

fat if I FEEL like being fat, so bite me " attitude for so many years.

Now I just feel sad for her. She's spending her golden years miserable

and she doesn't HAVE to be!

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Tory Klementsen, MCP A+

Career and Technology Educator

The successful person will do things that the unsuccessful person will

not.

> RE: Re: question

>

>

> Oh my GOSH Kris! We must be related because my MIL loves to

> share her

> gastric experiences with us as well...not only throw words, but with

> sounds too! Always pleasant to sit with someone who doesn't

> seem to have

> any issues with belching repeatedly.

>

>

> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

> ~`~`~`~`~`

> Tory Klementsen, MCP A+

> Career and Technology Educator

>

>

>

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You know Charlie I think MOST of us have felt this way. I love to try

new things myself...I love regional specialties and new tastes. If I can

try some exotic meat or funky spice I am thrilled. (When I found out how

low in calories and fat buffalo and ostrich were, I was psyched. WE can

get buffalo at TJs and a local restaurant serves ostrich.)

I've worked to sort of " rewrite " the way I think of vacations and other

celebrations, though. I'm not going to eat lettuce leaves the entire

time, and I will have a try of new things, but I have made food in my

life take a back seat to all of the other things that are important. I

find that if I do that, I still enjoy food but I don't think of it in

the same way I used to. I don't have the urgency to eat something to

celebrate, instead I am learning to find other ways to celebrate, or

make food a part of it, but not calories.

My husband put on a SMASHING play this week with his junior high

students, and I passed my certification test. Tomorrow night we're going

out to celebrate and will eat out! But we don't do what we would have

done a few years ago...go to Outback Steakhouse and have their HUGE

fatty servings. We know that the real celebration will come with us

being together, talking through our experiences, and toasting each other

with our diet sodas. Besides, the BEST part will be seeing Finding Nemo!

(I can't wait!)

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Tory Klementsen, MCP A+

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The successful person will do things that the unsuccessful person will

not.

> RE: Re: question

> >

> >

> > Very well said! I will definitely remember this because

> > vacations/being away from home is my biggest struggle.

> > I do have to say though that for some people vacation is all

> > about the food!

> > My MIL can spend an hour telling you all about what she ate while on

> > vacation. And worse yet, she'll tell you all about whether

> it cause her

> > gastric problems or not!

> >

> > Kris

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Tory K

> >

> >

> > What are you going on vacation for? To eat? No, to have

> FUN with your

> > family amd make wonderful memories! Will you take

> pictures of the meals

> > you eat? NO! You'll take pictures of the experiences you have.

> >

> > It's all in the attitude, baby! Right now you sound like

> you're either a

> > defeatist (well there's no way to stay on program, so I

> know I'll gain),

> > or a rationalizer (well...we HAVE to eat at bad places so I have

> > 'permission' to go completely off program, and it really

> won't be MY

> > fault). Instead of those, be a planner!

> >

> >

> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

> ~`~`~`~`~`

> > Tory Klementsen, MCP A+

> > Career and Technology Educator

> >

> > The successful person will do things that the

> unsuccessful person will

> > not.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I'm trying to get caught up a bit. I was really busy with work for

the last week and it looks like I missed A LOT!

I still enjoy food but I don't think of it in

> the same way I used to. I don't have the urgency to eat something to

> celebrate, instead I am learning to find other ways to celebrate, or

> make food a part of it, but not calories.

Tomorrow night we're going

> out to celebrate and will eat out! But we don't do what we would

have

> done a few years ago...go to Outback Steakhouse and have their HUGE

> fatty servings.

Even after 3 months, I'm still pretty hooked on some of that fatty

food. However, what I have found is that it takes so much less of

something to satify me, that I'll eat maybe a 3rd of that steak or

enchilada or dessert and take the rest home to have for lunch the

next 2 days. I do still enjoy some of those things, but in

substantially smaller servings. If I'm somewhere that I won't be

able to take it home, I decide to have something smaller (a salad

with dressing on the side) and share a dessert with my hubby or I'll

just accept that I won't finish everything, but will feel much better

because I can still move around after dinner. It's so nice to feel

like doing something after dinner instead of just laying around and

watching TV.

I've tried to make my motto this...I enjoy this food so much that I'm

going to eat every bite so slowly and enjoy it. This makes it so

much easier to eat only when I'm hungry and eat only until I'm full.

Now that I've once again gotten used to knowing what hunger and

fullness (as opposed to being stuffed like a pig) feels like, I don't

like feeling stuffed anymore and really pay attention to those

feelings.

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Hmmm... My reply hasn¹t shown up yet.

2 ounces dry = 1 cup cooked = 4 points

:D

on 6/3/03 10:51 AM, Donna Bonali at d.bonali@... wrote:

>

> I was wondering if one of you could please help me. I really want to have

> some spaghetti tonight for dinner and I'm confused about two things.

>

> First off, it gives the nutrition information for 1/8 cup (2 oz.) dry

> spaghetti as 200 cals/.5 fat/2g fiber

> So are the points the same cooked as they are dried? If not, what would the

> points be for cooked? Also, I don't believe that I can only eat 1/8 cup dry

> spaghetti. When I eat pasta, I enjoy having at least 2-3 cooked cups of

> actual spaghetti. OK......so I guess what I'm asking is, how many points

> would 3 cups of plain, cooked, spaghetti have?

>

> I've already figured for the sauce & veggies that would go into the sauce &

> the meat that would go into my sauce. Please help........I'm planning this

> for tonight's dinner so ASAP would be greatly appreciated!

>

> Thanks,

> Donna

>

>

>

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THANK YOU !!!!!

I don't have that food companion book. Wish I did!

Donna

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Hmmm... My reply hasn¹t shown up yet.

2 ounces dry = 1 cup cooked = 4 points

:D

on 6/3/03 10:51 AM, Donna Bonali at d.bonali@... wrote:

>

> I was wondering if one of you could please help me. I really want to have

> some spaghetti tonight for dinner and I'm confused about two things.

>

> First off, it gives the nutrition information for 1/8 cup (2 oz.) dry

> spaghetti as 200 cals/.5 fat/2g fiber

> So are the points the same cooked as they are dried? If not, what would

the

> points be for cooked? Also, I don't believe that I can only eat 1/8 cup

dry

> spaghetti. When I eat pasta, I enjoy having at least 2-3 cooked cups of

> actual spaghetti. OK......so I guess what I'm asking is, how many points

> would 3 cups of plain, cooked, spaghetti have?

>

> I've already figured for the sauce & veggies that would go into the sauce

&

> the meat that would go into my sauce. Please help........I'm planning

this

> for tonight's dinner so ASAP would be greatly appreciated!

>

> Thanks,

> Donna

>

>

>

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You can download the 2002 Food Companion from Dotti¹s website:

http://www.dwlz.com. I think it is in a couple of different formats like

maybe for a spreadsheet program or in a text file. :D You could probably

print it out and put it in a binder. I don¹t think the Food Companion lists

have changed all that much from last year to this year.

Enjoy your pasta!!

on 6/3/03 11:03 AM, Donna Bonali at d.bonali@... wrote:

> THANK YOU !!!!!

> I don't have that food companion book. Wish I did!

> Donna

>

>

> Re: Question

>

>

> Hmmm... My reply hasn¹t shown up yet.

>

> 2 ounces dry = 1 cup cooked = 4 points

>

> :D

>

>

>

> on 6/3/03 10:51 AM, Donna Bonali at d.bonali@... wrote:

>

>> >

>> > I was wondering if one of you could please help me. I really want to have

>> > some spaghetti tonight for dinner and I'm confused about two things.

>> >

>> > First off, it gives the nutrition information for 1/8 cup (2 oz.) dry

>> > spaghetti as 200 cals/.5 fat/2g fiber

>> > So are the points the same cooked as they are dried? If not, what would

> the

>> > points be for cooked? Also, I don't believe that I can only eat 1/8 cup

> dry

>> > spaghetti. When I eat pasta, I enjoy having at least 2-3 cooked cups of

>> > actual spaghetti. OK......so I guess what I'm asking is, how many points

>> > would 3 cups of plain, cooked, spaghetti have?

>> >

>> > I've already figured for the sauce & veggies that would go into the sauce

> &

>> > the meat that would go into my sauce. Please help........I'm planning

> this

>> > for tonight's dinner so ASAP would be greatly appreciated!

>> >

>> > Thanks,

>> > Donna

>> >

>> >

>> >

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Does anyone know how many ounces of COOKED pasta equals 4 points? I made a

pasta salad today using some larger noodles. I had cooked 8 oz. of pasta, so

it should have made 4 cups of noodles. Well, it made between 6 and 7! I know

I could just divide the 16 points by that, but I had already eaten two cups

of it last night (without measuring the rest) and counted each one of them

as 4, and then today measuring for the salad I realized I had WAY more

noodles here than 4 cups. I think it is because the larger noodles left much

more air inside and around in the cup. ANYWAY (I'm probably making this

short story way too long), I was hoping there was a wt. measurement to use

instead, as I know some do with fruit instead of measuring a cup.

Thanks for wading through the paragraph! :)

Judy R.

Re: Question

According to the Food Companion book, 2 ounces of uncooked pasta is equal to

1 cup cooked. Four points per 1 measuring cup cooked pasta.

on 6/3/03 10:51 AM, Donna Bonali at d.bonali@... wrote:

>

> I was wondering if one of you could please help me. I really want to have

> some spaghetti tonight for dinner and I'm confused about two things.

>

> First off, it gives the nutrition information for 1/8 cup (2 oz.) dry

> spaghetti as 200 cals/.5 fat/2g fiber

> So are the points the same cooked as they are dried? If not, what would

the

> points be for cooked? Also, I don't believe that I can only eat 1/8 cup

dry

> spaghetti. When I eat pasta, I enjoy having at least 2-3 cooked cups of

> actual spaghetti. OK......so I guess what I'm asking is, how many points

> would 3 cups of plain, cooked, spaghetti have?

>

> I've already figured for the sauce & veggies that would go into the sauce

&

> the meat that would go into my sauce. Please help........I'm planning

this

> for tonight's dinner so ASAP would be greatly appreciated!

>

> Thanks,

> Donna

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I think this might depend on the actual size of the noodle. (Maybe.) You

know, those big pasta shells compared to little elbow macaroni, etc. If you

cooked exactly 8 ounces of dry noodles, I would say that you could divide

the cooked pasta into four servings. ??? Maybe? Did you weigh the 8 ounces

on a scale? (Just curious.)

on 6/3/03 1:07 PM, Judy at juro@... wrote:

> Does anyone know how many ounces of COOKED pasta equals 4 points? I made a

> pasta salad today using some larger noodles. I had cooked 8 oz. of pasta, so

> it should have made 4 cups of noodles. Well, it made between 6 and 7! I know

> I could just divide the 16 points by that, but I had already eaten two cups

> of it last night (without measuring the rest) and counted each one of them

> as 4, and then today measuring for the salad I realized I had WAY more

> noodles here than 4 cups. I think it is because the larger noodles left much

> more air inside and around in the cup. ANYWAY (I'm probably making this

> short story way too long), I was hoping there was a wt. measurement to use

> instead, as I know some do with fruit instead of measuring a cup.

>

> Thanks for wading through the paragraph! :)

>

> Judy R.

>

> Re: Question

>

>

> According to the Food Companion book, 2 ounces of uncooked pasta is equal to

> 1 cup cooked. Four points per 1 measuring cup cooked pasta.

>

>

>

> on 6/3/03 10:51 AM, Donna Bonali at d.bonali@... wrote:

>

>> >

>> > I was wondering if one of you could please help me. I really want to have

>> > some spaghetti tonight for dinner and I'm confused about two things.

>> >

>> > First off, it gives the nutrition information for 1/8 cup (2 oz.) dry

>> > spaghetti as 200 cals/.5 fat/2g fiber

>> > So are the points the same cooked as they are dried? If not, what would

> the

>> > points be for cooked? Also, I don't believe that I can only eat 1/8 cup

> dry

>> > spaghetti. When I eat pasta, I enjoy having at least 2-3 cooked cups of

>> > actual spaghetti. OK......so I guess what I'm asking is, how many points

>> > would 3 cups of plain, cooked, spaghetti have?

>> >

>> > I've already figured for the sauce & veggies that would go into the sauce

> &

>> > the meat that would go into my sauce. Please help........I'm planning

> this

>> > for tonight's dinner so ASAP would be greatly appreciated!

>> >

>> > Thanks,

>> > Donna

>

>

>

>

>

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Yes, I think that would work to divide. But I had already eaten some

(counting it as 4 points/cup), and I just figured if there WAS an

points/ounces cooked scale for pasta it would make it easier in the future!

Judy R.

Re: Question

I think this might depend on the actual size of the noodle. (Maybe.) You

know, those big pasta shells compared to little elbow macaroni, etc. If you

cooked exactly 8 ounces of dry noodles, I would say that you could divide

the cooked pasta into four servings. ??? Maybe? Did you weigh the 8 ounces

on a scale? (Just curious.)

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Judy,

I think it was today that told me that 2 ounces of dry pasta = 1

cup cooked = 4 pts.

Donna

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>

>

> According to the Food Companion book, 2 ounces of uncooked pasta is equal

to

> 1 cup cooked. Four points per 1 measuring cup cooked pasta.

>

>

>

> on 6/3/03 10:51 AM, Donna Bonali at d.bonali@... wrote:

>

> >

> > I was wondering if one of you could please help me. I really want to

have

> > some spaghetti tonight for dinner and I'm confused about two things.

> >

> > First off, it gives the nutrition information for 1/8 cup (2 oz.) dry

> > spaghetti as 200 cals/.5 fat/2g fiber

> > So are the points the same cooked as they are dried? If not, what would

> the

> > points be for cooked? Also, I don't believe that I can only eat 1/8 cup

> dry

> > spaghetti. When I eat pasta, I enjoy having at least 2-3 cooked cups of

> > actual spaghetti. OK......so I guess what I'm asking is, how many

points

> > would 3 cups of plain, cooked, spaghetti have?

> >

> > I've already figured for the sauce & veggies that would go into the

sauce

> &

> > the meat that would go into my sauce. Please help........I'm planning

> this

> > for tonight's dinner so ASAP would be greatly appreciated!

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Donna

>

>

>

>

>

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You know I've gone to Dotti's site alot and I've never noticed anywhere that

I could print out the Food Companion. I know there are things I can click

on to get point values, is that what you mean? See, I'm doing the WW points

to lose, but I couldn't afford to go to the meetings, buy the extra stuff,

etc. Too many other financial obligations at this time but I seem to be

doing pretty well with the Points Calculator I have on my desktop that I

downloaded and combining that with Dotti's site is what has helped get me

where I am since I began doing the WW way. I'll go check the site again &

see if I've just overlooked the Food Companion. Thanks for the tip gal!

Donna

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>

>

> Hmmm... My reply hasn¹t shown up yet.

>

> 2 ounces dry = 1 cup cooked = 4 points

>

> :D

>

>

>

> on 6/3/03 10:51 AM, Donna Bonali at d.bonali@... wrote:

>

>> >

>> > I was wondering if one of you could please help me. I really want to

have

>> > some spaghetti tonight for dinner and I'm confused about two things.

>> >

>> > First off, it gives the nutrition information for 1/8 cup (2 oz.) dry

>> > spaghetti as 200 cals/.5 fat/2g fiber

>> > So are the points the same cooked as they are dried? If not, what

would

> the

>> > points be for cooked? Also, I don't believe that I can only eat 1/8

cup

> dry

>> > spaghetti. When I eat pasta, I enjoy having at least 2-3 cooked cups

of

>> > actual spaghetti. OK......so I guess what I'm asking is, how many

points

>> > would 3 cups of plain, cooked, spaghetti have?

>> >

>> > I've already figured for the sauce & veggies that would go into the

sauce

> &

>> > the meat that would go into my sauce. Please help........I'm planning

> this

>> > for tonight's dinner so ASAP would be greatly appreciated!

>> >

>> > Thanks,

>> > Donna

>> >

>> >

>> >

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interesting that water added to pasta increases the points.

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> >

> >

> > According to the Food Companion book, 2 ounces of uncooked pasta is

equal

> to

> > 1 cup cooked. Four points per 1 measuring cup cooked pasta.

> >

> >

> >

> > on 6/3/03 10:51 AM, Donna Bonali at d.bonali@... wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > I was wondering if one of you could please help me. I really want to

> have

> > > some spaghetti tonight for dinner and I'm confused about two things.

> > >

> > > First off, it gives the nutrition information for 1/8 cup (2 oz.) dry

> > > spaghetti as 200 cals/.5 fat/2g fiber

> > > So are the points the same cooked as they are dried? If not, what

would

> > the

> > > points be for cooked? Also, I don't believe that I can only eat 1/8

cup

> > dry

> > > spaghetti. When I eat pasta, I enjoy having at least 2-3 cooked cups

of

> > > actual spaghetti. OK......so I guess what I'm asking is, how many

> points

> > > would 3 cups of plain, cooked, spaghetti have?

> > >

> > > I've already figured for the sauce & veggies that would go into the

> sauce

> > &

> > > the meat that would go into my sauce. Please help........I'm planning

> > this

> > > for tonight's dinner so ASAP would be greatly appreciated!

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Donna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I put it into the WW's point calculator at the site....2 ounces equal 1.5

points....I'm glad you asked this...I find weighing things can be more

accurate than measuring some times.I find it especially helpful when I make

bread....

Hope this helps....

Holly Kae

> You're right. :) I just wish I knew how much *cooked* pasta, in ounces,

=

> 4 points. That way I could just weigh the cooked spagetti or penne or

> whatever and know for sure. But I guess I'll just have to think ahead and

> weigh it before cooking!

>

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I'm not sure I understand this comment....

2 ounces dry = 4 points

1 cup cooked = 4 points

2 ounces dry = 1 cup cooked = 4 points

Adding the water to the pasta just plumps it up, doesn't add any points.

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interesting that water added to pasta increases the points.

Re: Question

> >

> >

> > According to the Food Companion book, 2 ounces of uncooked pasta is

equal

> to

> > 1 cup cooked. Four points per 1 measuring cup cooked pasta.

> >

> >

> >

> > on 6/3/03 10:51 AM, Donna Bonali at d.bonali@... wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > I was wondering if one of you could please help me. I really want

to

> have

> > > some spaghetti tonight for dinner and I'm confused about two things.

> > >

> > > First off, it gives the nutrition information for 1/8 cup (2 oz.)

dry

> > > spaghetti as 200 cals/.5 fat/2g fiber

> > > So are the points the same cooked as they are dried? If not, what

would

> > the

> > > points be for cooked? Also, I don't believe that I can only eat 1/8

cup

> > dry

> > > spaghetti. When I eat pasta, I enjoy having at least 2-3 cooked

cups

of

> > > actual spaghetti. OK......so I guess what I'm asking is, how many

> points

> > > would 3 cups of plain, cooked, spaghetti have?

> > >

> > > I've already figured for the sauce & veggies that would go into the

> sauce

> > &

> > > the meat that would go into my sauce. Please help........I'm

planning

> > this

> > > for tonight's dinner so ASAP would be greatly appreciated!

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Donna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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