Re: Anti-aging of the kidneys!

[Guest guest]

Hey Pete,

That is good news since I love lemon in my ice water anyway :-) I still have

the foam though. Maybe I need to up the lemon.

[Guest guest]

For a complete rejuvenation of the urinary system, try lemon & Barley water, at

least 3 times a day!! This is something passed on through the generations. A

bit like our Australian Aboriginal Elders passing on their wisdom to this

generation.

If you don't notice a difference after one week I would be very suprised.

I am not taking any medication though!

Sincerely,

Pete.

W4JC@... wrote:

Hey Pete,

That is good news since I love lemon in my ice water anyway :-) I still have

the foam though. Maybe I need to up the lemon.

[Guest guest]

Many years ago, someone told me to boil celery leaves and then drink the

liquid. Good for the kidneys they said. I did, and I was sick like a dog for

2 days. I preferred progressive kidney failure rather than try that

experiment a second time

Pierre

Re: Anti-aging of the kidneys!

> For a complete rejuvenation of the urinary system, try lemon & Barley

water, at least 3 times a day!! This is something passed on through the

generations. A bit like our Australian Aboriginal Elders passing on their

wisdom to this generation.

> If you don't notice a difference after one week I would be very suprised.

> I am not taking any medication though!

> Sincerely,

>

> Pete.

>

[Guest guest]

I certainly cannot vouch for the celery leaves!

But I do know that Ghandi (during the British occupation of India) was almost at

the stage of Kidney failure, following a long fast. And it was the good old

lemon water which brought him back from the brink!!!

But of course, he would not have been taking pharmaceutical medicines either!!

Natural remedies, do not mix with un-natural remedies!!!!

Pete.

" Pierre L (groups) " wrote:

Many years ago, someone told me to boil celery leaves and then drink the

liquid. Good for the kidneys they said. I did, and I was sick like a dog for

2 days. I preferred progressive kidney failure rather than try that

experiment a second time

Pierre

Re: Anti-aging of the kidneys!

> For a complete rejuvenation of the urinary system, try lemon & Barley

water, at least 3 times a day!! This is something passed on through the

generations. A bit like our Australian Aboriginal Elders passing on their

wisdom to this generation.

> If you don't notice a difference after one week I would be very suprised.

> I am not taking any medication though!

> Sincerely,

>

> Pete.

>

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[Guest guest]

my wife a terminal and palliative care nurse informs me that large

doses of vitamin C are used to treat kidney patients who are just

about to peg out, they don't know why it works but it gives the

kidneys a last gasp. Prolonged use of vitamin C in big doses can

also lead to kidney stones, something too horrible to comprehend in

my book would be stones and IgAN. Lemon juice in my case lays me up

in bed with a blinding migraine that will last for up to three days

and has no effect whatsoever on the albumin in my urine.

beware of applying logic to anecdotal results...

> From previous igan information------I learnt that foam in the urine

indicated that the kidneys were deteriorating.

> Well I have now learnt that freshly squeezed lemon juice, consumed

> several times a day in a hot water drink, eliminates foam,

appearing in the urine. The logical mind says that the books on

lemon juice being anti-aging must be true!!!!

>

> Lemon juice has been used for so many preventatives .

>

> God Bless you all.

>

> Pete.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

How do you make your barley water with lemon? Nadia

Re: Anti-aging of the kidneys!

For a complete rejuvenation of the urinary system, try lemon & Barley water,

at least 3 times a day!! This is something passed on through the generations.

A bit like our Australian Aboriginal Elders passing on their wisdom to this

generation.

If you don't notice a difference after one week I would be very suprised.

I am not taking any medication though!

Sincerely,

Pete.

W4JC@... wrote:

Hey Pete,

That is good news since I love lemon in my ice water anyway :-) I still have

the foam though. Maybe I need to up the lemon.

[Guest guest]

Well, if you think that might work (im willing to try anything as of

now)-I am putting lemons on my grocery list!

-

> Good luck with your tests today. Let us know how the results turn

out ok?

>

> Sorry, but I don't do fish oil, and can't answer your question

about going

> from 3600 to 14,400.

>

> Thanks for your prayers for all of us too :-)

>

>

>

> In a message dated 5/26/2003 10:26:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> crazycazey@y... writes:

>

> > Pierre,

> >

> > Is this still a pretty big concern? I know they have me on like

3600 mg

> > a day, and they want me to get up to 14,400 mg a day. That scares

me if it

> > is still linked to clotting... just trying to get a handle on

what I have to

> > know... I'm still trying to find out all the questions I need to

ask about

> > this disease.

> >

> > Update: I go in for more blood testing tomorrow. They think that

me moving

> > weekend before last stressed out my kidneys some how... so, I'm

back in for

> > more testing.

> >

> > And... to all those who feel old, I am very much there with you.

I am 30

> > and I am feeling older and older by the day. I made a 6 hour

drive this

> > weekend to watch my cousin graduate and it was the most exausting

and long weekend

> > ever.

> >

> > And... as far as dating. I've only started dating a guy that is

wonderful

> > about a month ago. He knew I went in for an " emergency " biopsy...

but, we

> > still haven't actually talked about the diagnosis. I agree, it's

scary to bring

> > it up.. and there is NEVER a right time.

> >

> > Anyway, everyone have a good week and I will let you know how

things go. I

> > pray for everyone and wish you all a very good week!!!

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Luckily, lemon is one citrus that isn't too high in potassium - good for

those who have problems in that department. Keep in mind that potassium is

additive though, so if one lemon is Ok, 10 wouldn't

Pierre

Re: Anti-aging of the kidneys!

> Well, if you think that might work (im willing to try anything as of

> now)-I am putting lemons on my grocery list!

> -

>

>

[Guest guest]

For the less experienced among us:

You can't judge anything about kidney function from the presence or absence

of foam in your urine. True, we all associate it with protein, and that's

generally the case, but there are things we eat that may affect the

properties of urine and how behaves in the water, or there may be cleaning

products in the water, etc., noe of which mean the proteinuria isn't still

there. Even mild proteinuria can cause amazing amounts of foam.

Pierre

[Guest guest]

For the less experienced among us:

You can't judge anything about kidney function from the presence or absence

of foam in your urine. True, we all associate it with protein, and that's

generally the case, but there are things we eat that may affect the

properties of urine and how behaves in the water, or there may be cleaning

products in the water, etc., noe of which mean the proteinuria isn't still

there. Even mild proteinuria can cause amazing amounts of foam.

Pierre

[Guest guest]

Half a cup of pearl barley, to 5 cups of filtered water, bring to the boil, &

simmer for 15 minutes on low heat. Then add ( usually half a lemon) freshly

squeezed juice. I do not include the soft grain barley in the final drink (I

strain it and use the soft barley in soups also).

I am very fortunate, in Australia, cause I have 4 different lemon tree varieties

to choose from; Meyer, Lisbon, Eureka & another I can't remember it's name.Our

garden is sub-tropical.

The fruits are valuable in so many ways. And the blossoms have a heavenly

scent!! And I know my lemons have no sprays, wax or other obscenities like G.M.

(genetically modified).

May god bless your lemon drinks always!

Pete.

" N Ingram, Ingram & Ingram " wrote:

Hi ,

How do you make your barley water with lemon? Nadia

Re: Anti-aging of the kidneys!

For a complete rejuvenation of the urinary system, try lemon & Barley water, at

least 3 times a day!! This is something passed on through the generations. A bit

like our Australian Aboriginal Elders passing on their wisdom to this

generation.

If you don't notice a difference after one week I would be very suprised.

I am not taking any medication though!

Sincerely,

Pete.

W4JC@... wrote:

Hey Pete,

That is good news since I love lemon in my ice water anyway :-) I still have

the foam though. Maybe I need to up the lemon.

[Guest guest]

on 5/27/03 9:27 PM, W4JC@... at W4JC@... wrote:

hello.is there any significance to foamy urine that is now pin-point

small as opposed to much larger bubbles before?....is this an indication of

things worsening.or just a variation?...at any rate the bigger bubbles have

stopped for now at least..elsie

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Elsie,

As Pierre wrote, you really can't make any determination based on the amount

of foam. The same holds true for the size of bubbles. The only accurate way

is to do a urine test for protein.

[Guest guest]

,

Sorry to hear about your migraine.

In my case, I have been taking lemon juice, for prolonged periods, for years.

No kidney stones yet!!!

But then, sometimes I like to drink Cranberry Juice, which is renowned for

preventing kidney stones also.

Vitamin C is available in orange juice, but has a completely different effect on

the body. And not as beneficial, as in many other forms. This is due to the

alkalinity and acidity.

I have seen what pharmaceutical sales are. I was trained.

And I am more convinced, on working on, what I know my body feels good with. I

get regular B.P. checks, and correct accordingly, with gentle Yoga and dietry

adjustments.

I will not take what has been put together in a lab, and has pages of listed

side effects!!!

Meditation is another proven method of illness correction and adjustment. We

have a man in Australia, called Ian Gawler, who lost a leg to cancer, & was told

by his Dr to prepare to die within 6 months , of Cancer. This was more than 20

years ago. He has written many books on surviving cancer, and meditation. Prayer

is also known to have remarkable benefits for the sick.

I am not saying that any of these are a cure. But they are not harmful either.

A claim that can not be made with pharmaceutical drugs.

God Bless You, and help you with your suffering.

Sincerely,

Pete.

jeffreyfarruk wrote:

my wife a terminal and palliative care nurse informs me that large

doses of vitamin C are used to treat kidney patients who are just

about to peg out, they don't know why it works but it gives the

kidneys a last gasp. Prolonged use of vitamin C in big doses can

also lead to kidney stones, something too horrible to comprehend in

my book would be stones and IgAN. Lemon juice in my case lays me up

in bed with a blinding migraine that will last for up to three days

and has no effect whatsoever on the albumin in my urine.

beware of applying logic to anecdotal results...

> From previous igan information------I learnt that foam in the urine

indicated that the kidneys were deteriorating.

> Well I have now learnt that freshly squeezed lemon juice, consumed

> several times a day in a hot water drink, eliminates foam,

appearing in the urine. The logical mind says that the books on

lemon juice being anti-aging must be true!!!!

>

> Lemon juice has been used for so many preventatives .

>

> God Bless you all.

>

> Pete.

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[Guest guest]

I wonder if there are other people who have the same problem as me.

When I was down living in London, I had a wonderful consultant who was

hightly experienced and I saw him at the clinic every 4-6 months unless anythign

was

wrong and all I needed to do was phone his secretary up and then I would get

an appointment at the clinic for the following week.

Since I moved to Yorkshire, I saw the consultant for the first two times now

I see a one of his minions and its a different doctor everytime. The trouble

is I seem to know more than they do and they admit that they are not very

experience in IgA so I wonder why they are doing a clinic in it?

I visited my GP last week because I have been having problems with fulid

retention, my legs are swelling up even though I have been put on frusemide

every

two days. but its not taking it away. He said it wasn't a " GP issue " so I am

stuck for 4 months till I see the neph " doctor " again or beggin for a possible

earlier appointment - don't you feel that you are up agains a brick wall some

times. It think, particularly in the UK , its a postcode lottery as to what

kind of medical treatment you get!!

[Guest guest]

Is there anybody on fish oil in the UK? Does it work?

[Guest guest]

I don't take fish oil, and I don't live in the UK, but, I can direct you to <A

HREF= " www.igan.ca " >

www.igan.ca</A> where Pierre has put some excellent information on fish oil.

Hope it helps you!

[Guest guest]

That does not seem good to wait for four months if you are retaining that

much fluid. Is there any chance you can call and be seen earlier on an urgent

basis?

I hope so.

[Guest guest]

I had an allergic reaction to the fish oil supplements. So I include plenty of

cold water fish in my diet, such as Salmon, Sardines & Mackeral.

The Mayo clinic in the U.S., and other studies, have proven the protective value

of fish oil (from cold water fish) on both the heart and the kidneys.

The essential fatty acids have many other benefits also.

On your other message-------I have had the same frustrations also.

Pete.

JeaniePC@... wrote:

Is there anybody on fish oil in the UK? Does it work?

[Guest guest]

---Hi Jeanie

I am not from UK, just Poland, but I am on fish oil for 12 months.

I don't see any problem with taking the pills, no side effects at

all. It works for me I guess...and one benefit which I can

notice ...good for the general condition of the skin...It's worth

trying!

I am sorry that you have such problems to see your doc. is

right - you shouldn't wait 4 months if you have problems with

swellings now.

Take care,

Elvira

In iga-nephropathy , JeaniePC@a... wrote:

> Is there anybody on fish oil in the UK? Does it work?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Pete,

I am also blessed down here in Southwest Florida. We have lemons and limes and

grapefruit - all without pesticides. All the best to you!

P.S. I have been making a drink with rice milk, lecithin, brewer's yeast and

safflower oil per Adelle ' book " Let's Get Well. " She has a whole chapter

on kidney diseases. Nadia Ingram

Re: Anti-aging of the kidneys!

For a complete rejuvenation of the urinary system, try lemon & Barley water,

at least 3 times a day!! This is something passed on through the generations. A

bit like our Australian Aboriginal Elders passing on their wisdom to this

generation.

If you don't notice a difference after one week I would be very suprised.

I am not taking any medication though!

Sincerely,

Pete.

W4JC@... wrote:

Hey Pete,

That is good news since I love lemon in my ice water anyway :-) I still have

the foam though. Maybe I need to up the lemon.

[Guest guest]

Wow, thanks Nadia. I'm not real big on restricting my son's diet (I figure

he'll get to that point by himself regardless) other than salt and lowish

protein... However, I was unaware about Adelle covered it. Guess

I'll have to dust off my copy!

Cy

Re: Anti-aging of the kidneys!

>

>

> For a complete rejuvenation of the urinary system, try lemon & Barley

water, at least 3 times a day!! This is something passed on through the

generations. A bit like our Australian Aboriginal Elders passing on their

wisdom to this generation.

> If you don't notice a difference after one week I would be very

suprised.

> I am not taking any medication though!

> Sincerely,

>

> Pete.

>

> W4JC@... wrote:

> Hey Pete,

>

> That is good news since I love lemon in my ice water anyway :-) I still

have

> the foam though. Maybe I need to up the lemon.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You're very welcome!

Re: Anti-aging of the kidneys!

>

>

> For a complete rejuvenation of the urinary system, try lemon & Barley

water, at least 3 times a day!! This is something passed on through the

generations. A bit like our Australian Aboriginal Elders passing on their

wisdom to this generation.

> If you don't notice a difference after one week I would be very

suprised.

> I am not taking any medication though!

> Sincerely,

>

> Pete.

>

> W4JC@... wrote:

> Hey Pete,

>

> That is good news since I love lemon in my ice water anyway :-) I still

have

> the foam though. Maybe I need to up the lemon.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Cy - I also put some organic vanilla in the drink to make it taste

better. Nadia

Re: Anti-aging of the kidneys!

>

>

> For a complete rejuvenation of the urinary system, try lemon & Barley

water, at least 3 times a day!! This is something passed on through the

generations. A bit like our Australian Aboriginal Elders passing on their

wisdom to this generation.

> If you don't notice a difference after one week I would be very

suprised.

> I am not taking any medication though!

> Sincerely,

>

> Pete.

>

> W4JC@... wrote:

> Hey Pete,

>

> That is good news since I love lemon in my ice water anyway :-) I still

have

> the foam though. Maybe I need to up the lemon.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your messages - I am going to do a 24 hour this weekend to see

what my protein spillage is so I'll keep you posted.