Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 Hi , The flank pain is something that a significant number of IgAN patients seem to have, but I don't think diet has any relation to the pain. Protein is a large molecule, and thus harder on your kidneys. You body is always designed to take the protein it needs first. Digestion and absorption of nutrients are not negatively impacted by kidney disease, but the regulation of electrolyte balance (potassium and sodium) is of concern with advancing kidney disease. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 Hi . I don't think there's any way to relate back pain to the degree of chronic renal failure from IgAN. Some people have back pain, some don't. It helps to follow a renal diet if you have less than 30-35% kidney function. This is because it helps to minimise what's called the uremic symptoms of renal failure, it's help keep your bones in good shape, and it may help to delay the time when dialysis becomes necessary. But nobody really backs that up much. The idea is mostly to make you feel as healthy as possible until you need dialysis. If you have more than that amount of kidney function, there's no hard evidence that any diet helps with anything (unless there's a specific problem, such as potassium retention or something). Lower sodium intake helps with high blood pressure, of course. Pierre Back/Kidney Pain > If there is pain in my back does that mean the IgAN is getting much > worse or will I always have pain no matter what? At first I thought > the pain was less if I watched what I ate but now I'm wondering if > that was all in my mind. Does it help to follow a low protein/renal > diet or am I wasting my efforts? I feel like I can't eat anything. > > Another question, will my body absorb the protein I need first and > dump the extra in my urine or will there come a time I won't be able > to absorb enough protein? I only know what I remember from health > class in 1970. And that's not much. > > > > p.s. So you won't have to strain doing the math, I'm 47. (lol) > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > Thank you > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 I've made a 'discovery', when I drink a glass of cider, my kidney pain goes. Wine, beer have no effect, half a pint of cider and 2 or three minutes later it's easing :-? wierd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 When I first started talking to the doctors about a month ago, they said my kidneys were still filtering out the toxins at this point, just letting protein and blood through. I guess I'm lucky for now and don't need to make the drastic diet changes. I thought I would ask to do a bone density test to use as a baseline for bone tissue loss since I'm taking prednizone. Sorry I don't know any medical terms or how to spell any of these words. > Hi . > > I don't think there's any way to relate back pain to the degree of chronic > renal failure from IgAN. Some people have back pain, some don't. > > It helps to follow a renal diet if you have less than 30-35% kidney > function. This is because it helps to minimise what's called the uremic > symptoms of renal failure, it's help keep your bones in good shape, and it > may help to delay the time when dialysis becomes necessary. But nobody > really backs that up much. The idea is mostly to make you feel as healthy as > possible until you need dialysis. > > If you have more than that amount of kidney function, there's no hard > evidence that any diet helps with anything (unless there's a specific > problem, such as potassium retention or something). Lower sodium intake > helps with high blood pressure, of course. > > Pierre > > > Back/Kidney Pain > > > > If there is pain in my back does that mean the IgAN is getting much > > worse or will I always have pain no matter what? At first I thought > > the pain was less if I watched what I ate but now I'm wondering if > > that was all in my mind. Does it help to follow a low protein/renal > > diet or am I wasting my efforts? I feel like I can't eat anything. > > > > Another question, will my body absorb the protein I need first and > > dump the extra in my urine or will there come a time I won't be able > > to absorb enough protein? I only know what I remember from health > > class in 1970. And that's not much. > > > > > > > > p.s. So you won't have to strain doing the math, I'm 47. (lol) > > > > > > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > > home page: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported > by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > > > Thank you > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 This question is coming from a Diet Pepsi drinker who is new to drinking all this healthy fruit juice. When you say apple cider do you mean apple cider like you buy in the fall or apple juice like you can buy all the time? I'll sure give that a try. Thanks! :-) > > I've made a 'discovery', when I drink a glass of cider, my kidney > pain goes. Wine, beer have no effect, half a pint of cider and 2 or > three minutes later it's easing :-? > > wierd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2003 Report Share Posted April 29, 2003 Do you mean like plain old apple cider? Interesting, My Father-in-Law has an orchard, and they make home made apple cider, I'll have to try that myself. Thanks Connie Moderator, USA Re: Back/Kidney Pain I've made a 'discovery', when I drink a glass of cider, my kidney pain goes. Wine, beer have no effect, half a pint of cider and 2 or three minutes later it's easing :-? wierd To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 yep plain ole apple cider, am I right in thinking in the states cider is non-alcoholic, here in the uk it's alcoholic (usually 5% not too strong), if I drink a couple of pints I get about a day without any kidney pain at all, and my pee isn't as frothy. I did read somewhere that apples are supposedly good for kidneys put I can't remember where. I've a colleague with crohns disease and he's found chilli helps, now chilli is normally a gut irritant, isn't the human body marvellous :-) > Do you mean like plain old apple cider? Interesting, My Father- in-Law has > an orchard, and they make home made apple cider, I'll have to try that > myself. Thanks > > Connie > Moderator, USA > > Re: Back/Kidney Pain > > > > I've made a 'discovery', when I drink a glass of cider, my kidney > pain goes. Wine, beer have no effect, half a pint of cider and 2 or > three minutes later it's easing :-? > > wierd > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported > by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > Thank you > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Wow, the chilli thing calls to mind all the stuff I read in Indian cookbooks about all the spices aiding digestion. Maybe there's stuff happening of which we are not aware. I know stuff like jalopenos and other hot peppers can be an irritant (I love 'em, but pay the price...), but chilli (the spice) is something different. Hmmmm.... Cy Re: Back/Kidney Pain > > > > > > > > I've made a 'discovery', when I drink a glass of cider, my kidney > > pain goes. Wine, beer have no effect, half a pint of cider and 2 > or > > three minutes later it's easing :-? > > > > wierd > > > > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > > home page: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely > supported > > by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > > > Thank you > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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