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Hello,

I manage a very busy critical access outpatient community based rehab

practice and employed by the hospital as well as my rehab staff. Senior

Leadership has approached me to have a chiropractor in my rehab

department. I have asked several questions regarding space, how would

this person be employed (private practice or through the hospital or our

clinic that is connected but is under different management), revenue,

support staff and equipment usage. If anyone has any input regarding

regulations, conflicts of interest, opinions and resources that would be

great.

Terri L Green

Rehab Services Manager

Hudson Hospital

405 Stageline Road

Hudson, WI 54016

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Terri,

What services would the chiro provide that your PT staff cannot

already perform? I do not know your practice act in WI, but it has

been my experience that I have seen patients after failed

chiropractic care and then they get better with physical therapy,

including mobilization/manipulation as needed in their treatment

plan.

I think I would assess my internal talents and resources and

determing if your facility truly needs a chiropractor on staff.

Just my 2 cents...

Gwilliam, PT, CWS

Bowie Memorial Hosptial

Bowie, Texas

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> Hello,

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> I manage a very busy critical access outpatient community based

rehab

> practice and employed by the hospital as well as my rehab staff.

Senior

> Leadership has approached me to have a chiropractor in my rehab

> department. I have asked several questions regarding space, how

would

> this person be employed (private practice or through the hospital

or our

> clinic that is connected but is under different management),

revenue,

> support staff and equipment usage. If anyone has any input

regarding

> regulations, conflicts of interest, opinions and resources that

would be

> great.

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> Terri L Green

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> Rehab Services Manager

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> Hudson Hospital

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> 405 Stageline Road

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> Hudson, WI 54016

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> Fax:

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Terri,

I have a feeling your question is going to generate a lot of responses. Please

do not go through with the Senior Leadership Idea. I view this situation as a

wonderful opportunity to educate your administration on the difference between

Chiro and PT/Rehab. Chiropractic is not rehabilitation. It is an alternative

treatment based on correlative results, much like other holistic therapies.

While PT is not always " evidenced-based " , it is science/research-based. If your

hospital wants to open an alternative care center with acupuncture,

aromatherapy, and chiropractic, then I would support that. However, I would not

include chiro in my rehabilitation department under my watch. This is just

another way that the chiropractic field is trying to push their way into

hospitals. They also are trying to force the legislative hand on manipulation

under anesthesia, primary care physician status in the VA hospitals,

chiropractic education in actual universities like Florida State, etc.

This all boils down to the marketing and public relations differences between PT

and Chiro. When it comes to the public, if you repeat something ad nauseam they

will begin to view it as fact. We have allowed chiropractic and HUMER PT

clinics define what PT is and isn't.

There are a lot of talented Chiropractors in the world, the public (and your

hospital administration) need to realize that they are in the alternative realm

of treatment, not in the conventional medical model.

Gray, MPT, OCS, CSCS

Director - Rehabilitation Services

Board Certified Orthopedic Specialist

Hanford Community Medical Center

Central Valley General Hospital

(Tel)

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>>> " jgwilliam2000 " 05/24/2007 11:16 >>>

Terri,

What services would the chiro provide that your PT staff cannot

already perform? I do not know your practice act in WI, but it has

been my experience that I have seen patients after failed

chiropractic care and then they get better with physical therapy,

including mobilization/manipulation as needed in their treatment

plan.

I think I would assess my internal talents and resources and

determing if your facility truly needs a chiropractor on staff.

Just my 2 cents...

Gwilliam, PT, CWS

Bowie Memorial Hosptial

Bowie, Texas

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> Hello,

>

>

>

> I manage a very busy critical access outpatient community based

rehab

> practice and employed by the hospital as well as my rehab staff.

Senior

> Leadership has approached me to have a chiropractor in my rehab

> department. I have asked several questions regarding space, how

would

> this person be employed (private practice or through the hospital

or our

> clinic that is connected but is under different management),

revenue,

> support staff and equipment usage. If anyone has any input

regarding

> regulations, conflicts of interest, opinions and resources that

would be

> great.

>

>

>

> Terri L Green

>

> Rehab Services Manager

>

> Hudson Hospital

>

> 405 Stageline Road

>

> Hudson, WI 54016

>

>

>

> Fax:

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Terri,

I think you have gotten good feedback to this already. I would only

add this. Sometimes " Senior Leadership " makes decisions regardless

of the feedback received, no matter how persuasive the arguement to

the contrary. In the eevent that happens I would encourage you to

try to be on the interview panel that interviews the Chiro. and

really gauge his/her buy in to the rehab scenario. I have worked

closely with chiropractors and some are very good at including

appropriate PT into the patient's plan of care and some ar not. If

in the end you have to accept this scenario then keep the

communication lines upon and hopefully you can have direct influence

on who ultimately is hired.

Best of Luck,

Jeff Weil, PT

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