Guest guest Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 I think you should ask your dietician if you are eating enough carbohydrates. I get 210 a day which is equaliviante to 14 snacks I mean a fruit, a ilk, a bread, crackers or cereal. Daily Food Assessment Hey all. If you don't mind, I thought I would start sending in my daily food log for your comment. I don't mean some sort of detailed nutritional evaluation, etc., but just what you experienced folk might see at a glance to give me ideas where you are coming from and things I need to look at as I find what works best for me. I sure will appreciate any pointers. I have been keeping this log to take with me when I see the dietitian for the first time since diagnosis of Type II. 5:00 AM Wheat Thins 9:00 AM Oatmeal (1/3 cup dry plus 1/3 cup frozen blueberries) 11:00 AM One-half banana 3:00 PM Tomato soup, Triscuits 7:00 PM 's grilled chicken sandwich (minus their mayo; used mustard, salad (I typically don't use dressing or just dip my fork in it on the side) SS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Just count those carbs, the total carbs. If you can count, you have a head start. The good news and bad news about carb counting is you only have to count them whenever you eat or drink. The bad news is you will have to count them for the rest of your life. It is kind of like driving a car. At first you have to think about stopping at the red light or turning left or right. After many months it becomes second nature. So count, count, count, count, count, count, count, count, and pretty soon you will pretty much know. Daily Food Assessment > Hey all. If you don't mind, I thought I would start sending > in my daily food log for your comment. I don't mean some > sort of detailed nutritional evaluation, etc., but just what > you experienced folk might see at a glance to give me ideas > where you are coming from and things I need to look at as I > find what works best for me. I sure will appreciate any > pointers. I have been keeping this log to take with me when > I see the dietitian for the first time since diagnosis of > Type II. > > 5:00 AM Wheat Thins > 9:00 AM Oatmeal (1/3 cup dry plus 1/3 cup frozen > blueberries) > 11:00 AM One-half banana > 3:00 PM Tomato soup, Triscuits > 7:00 PM 's grilled chicken sandwich (minus their mayo; > used mustard, salad (I typically don't use dressing or just > dip my fork in it on the side) > > SS > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release > Date: 10/7/2006 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Are you kidding me? Do you know that 210 grams of carbs per day requires 84 units of Humalog in order for my body to handle all of those carbs? I do not know the equivalent of self made insulin in your own pancreas, but I bet it is a lot. Here is a clue: High levels of insulin causes more insulin resistance and high insulin levels are not good for your body, causing elevated CPR levels and untold of other problems like atherosclerosis and high blood pressure, just to mention a couple of them. The 84 units of insulin is just the prandial insulin I have to take, and I did not mention the 39 units of long acting insulin Lantus dosed daily for a basal level of insulin. To consume all those carbs would require me to have a total insulin dose per day of 123 units of insulin daily. I recommend getting off that ADA recommended diet before it kills you. For sure you are headed for some serious diabetic complications at a minimum. Protein and fat consumption are essential for life. Carbohydrate consumption is not. Daily Food Assessment > > > Hey all. If you don't mind, I thought I would start sending > in my daily food log for your comment. I don't mean some > sort of detailed nutritional evaluation, etc., but just what > you experienced folk might see at a glance to give me ideas > where you are coming from and things I need to look at as I > find what works best for me. I sure will appreciate any > pointers. I have been keeping this log to take with me when > I see the dietitian for the first time since diagnosis of > Type II. > > 5:00 AM Wheat Thins > 9:00 AM Oatmeal (1/3 cup dry plus 1/3 cup frozen > blueberries) > 11:00 AM One-half banana > 3:00 PM Tomato soup, Triscuits > 7:00 PM 's grilled chicken sandwich (minus their mayo; > used mustard, salad (I typically don't use dressing or just > dip my fork in it on the side) > > SS > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release > Date: 10/7/2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Hi , My question is this - why the wheat thins at 5 a.m. ? Wouldn't it be easier to eat your oatmeal at 8 a.m. and skip the wheat thins at 5. The rest seems not bad, but the next question is - how many crackers are you eating at a time? In general, a whole wheat, multi-grain, or carb wise piece of bread would be better. As well, at lunch some protein would be good to slow down the carb absorption and help you last till supper. The fiber in the bread will also slow down the carb absorption if you use the types I suggested earlier. You can have the little bit of mayonaise on the burger, as some fat is allowed in the diet. Good start! Keep it up! Ruth Daily Food Assessment Hey all. If you don't mind, I thought I would start sending in my daily food log for your comment. I don't mean some sort of detailed nutritional evaluation, etc., but just what you experienced folk might see at a glance to give me ideas where you are coming from and things I need to look at as I find what works best for me. I sure will appreciate any pointers. I have been keeping this log to take with me when I see the dietitian for the first time since diagnosis of Type II. 5:00 AM Wheat Thins 9:00 AM Oatmeal (1/3 cup dry plus 1/3 cup frozen blueberries) 11:00 AM One-half banana 3:00 PM Tomato soup, Triscuits 7:00 PM 's grilled chicken sandwich (minus their mayo; used mustard, salad (I typically don't use dressing or just dip my fork in it on the side) SS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Ruth, thanks. I should have mentioned that I usually have a very unusual schedule. That is due to a lifelong problem with sleep. So, when you see I had a snack at 5:00 AM that was after working for a few hours already at that time. I realize this is going to be an issue with diabetes and the importance of keeping a consistent schedule. Just another fly in the ointment. (Do flies contain carbs?) Regarding a's information, the dietitian I had phone consult with advised that I have 45 carbs per meal and a morning an dafternoon snack of 15 grams and then an evening snack of 30 grams or 250 calories. Harry responds how much more that is than he would ever be able to tolerate. So, the confusion. I guess there are two camps about what is right and I am going to have to learn about them both to see what works for me. Of course, I am still at a point that I don't really know how any of this effects my body. One of the questions I have to put to my doctor is why she gave me this urgency to watch my diet and then can't get me a dietitian consult for over a month and won't see me herself for a month. Is it that it's really not so crucial or nothing is iminant or just the old thing that it's only critical to those receiving care and not the care givers. I hope I am not deceiving myself but I hope all of this is just temporary and with consistently sensible diet, exercise, etc. the diagnosis really doesn't mean more than a warning. I got the book today that was recommended, so looking forward to studying that to help clarify some of these things. Will keep up what I can do till I find out I am doing wrong. Thanks for everyone's ideas and experiences. They are all helpful, even if they do give me more to look into. SS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 The reason there is contradictory information out there is because diabetes is an individual disease. A food that one person might be able to handle just fine another might not be able to. Harry's 84 units to cover 210 carbs would be only 15 or so units for me, and my Lantus dose is only 18 as compared to 39. Just shows how individual we are. The bottom line is to find what works for you at keeping your blood sugar in the best range, whether that is your target range that you and your doctor have set or a completely normal range that non-diabetics have. You can only find this out by testing after you eat to see where you are. Jen RE: Daily Food Assessment > Ruth, thanks. I should have mentioned that I usually have a > very unusual schedule. That is due to a lifelong problem > with sleep. So, when you see I had a snack at 5:00 AM that > was after working for a few hours already at that time. I > realize this is going to be an issue with diabetes and the > importance of keeping a consistent schedule. Just another > fly in the ointment. (Do flies contain carbs?) > > Regarding a's information, the dietitian I had phone > consult with advised that I have 45 carbs per meal and a > morning an dafternoon snack of 15 grams and then an evening > snack of 30 grams or 250 calories. Harry responds how much > more that is than he would ever be able to tolerate. So, > the confusion. I guess there are two camps about what is > right and I am going to have to learn about them both to see > what works for me. Of course, I am still at a point that I > don't really know how any of this effects my body. One of > the questions I have to put to my doctor is why she gave me > this urgency to watch my diet and then can't get me a > dietitian consult for over a month and won't see me herself > for a month. Is it that it's really not so crucial or > nothing is iminant or just the old thing that it's only > critical to those receiving care and not the care givers. I > hope I am not deceiving myself but I hope all of this is > just temporary and with consistently sensible diet, > exercise, etc. the diagnosis really doesn't mean more than a > warning. > > I got the book today that was recommended, so looking > forward to studying that to help clarify some of these > things. Will keep up what I can do till I find out I am > doing wrong. Thanks for everyone's ideas and experiences. > They are all helpful, even if they do give me more to look > into. > > SS > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release > Date: 10/7/2006 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 One thing you will see, if you haven't yet, is that no two diabetics are the same. For instance, I take around 25 units total of Humalog a day, with meals and if I have a high bg, but only take 11 units of Lantus. And, I take it at dinner time (around 6 PM). I also essentially abide by the old saying about a diabetic eating 6 small meals a day. So, as you have stated, you will have to read what others do, and pick a camp, and see what works (and what does not). I am not one to say do away with carbs, but I will say make sure their healthy carbs. I see that you eat Triscuits. That's an example of a healthy cracker (is that an oxymoron?) because Triscuits have no enriched flour and are made of whole grain wheat. In general, avoid, or only eat a little of, foods with " enriched " or " refined " in the ingredients list, not to mention saturated fat. Oh, you eat oatmeal, and make sure you are eating the " Old Fashion " oatmeal, and not instant oatmeal. The old fashion is made with the whole grain, whereas the instant or quick oatmeal is not. Dave Life is but a blink of the eye--eternity is coming... RE: Daily Food Assessment > Ruth, thanks. I should have mentioned that I usually have a > very unusual schedule. That is due to a lifelong problem > with sleep. So, when you see I had a snack at 5:00 AM that > was after working for a few hours already at that time. I > realize this is going to be an issue with diabetes and the > importance of keeping a consistent schedule. Just another > fly in the ointment. (Do flies contain carbs?) > > Regarding a's information, the dietitian I had phone > consult with advised that I have 45 carbs per meal and a > morning an dafternoon snack of 15 grams and then an evening > snack of 30 grams or 250 calories. Harry responds how much > more that is than he would ever be able to tolerate. So, > the confusion. I guess there are two camps about what is > right and I am going to have to learn about them both to see > what works for me. Of course, I am still at a point that I > don't really know how any of this effects my body. One of > the questions I have to put to my doctor is why she gave me > this urgency to watch my diet and then can't get me a > dietitian consult for over a month and won't see me herself > for a month. Is it that it's really not so crucial or > nothing is iminant or just the old thing that it's only > critical to those receiving care and not the care givers. I > hope I am not deceiving myself but I hope all of this is > just temporary and with consistently sensible diet, > exercise, etc. the diagnosis really doesn't mean more than a > warning. > > I got the book today that was recommended, so looking > forward to studying that to help clarify some of these > things. Will keep up what I can do till I find out I am > doing wrong. Thanks for everyone's ideas and experiences. > They are all helpful, even if they do give me more to look > into. > > SS > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release > Date: 10/7/2006 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Is your doctor a general practitioner or a specialist? RE: Daily Food Assessment > Ruth, thanks. I should have mentioned that I usually have a > very unusual schedule. That is due to a lifelong problem > with sleep. So, when you see I had a snack at 5:00 AM that > was after working for a few hours already at that time. I > realize this is going to be an issue with diabetes and the > importance of keeping a consistent schedule. Just another > fly in the ointment. (Do flies contain carbs?) > > Regarding a's information, the dietitian I had phone > consult with advised that I have 45 carbs per meal and a > morning an dafternoon snack of 15 grams and then an evening > snack of 30 grams or 250 calories. Harry responds how much > more that is than he would ever be able to tolerate. So, > the confusion. I guess there are two camps about what is > right and I am going to have to learn about them both to see > what works for me. Of course, I am still at a point that I > don't really know how any of this effects my body. One of > the questions I have to put to my doctor is why she gave me > this urgency to watch my diet and then can't get me a > dietitian consult for over a month and won't see me herself > for a month. Is it that it's really not so crucial or > nothing is iminant or just the old thing that it's only > critical to those receiving care and not the care givers. I > hope I am not deceiving myself but I hope all of this is > just temporary and with consistently sensible diet, > exercise, etc. the diagnosis really doesn't mean more than a > warning. > > I got the book today that was recommended, so looking > forward to studying that to help clarify some of these > things. Will keep up what I can do till I find out I am > doing wrong. Thanks for everyone's ideas and experiences. > They are all helpful, even if they do give me more to look > into. > > SS > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release > Date: 10/7/2006 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Harry, she is a Family Practice physician who graduated medical school in 1988. I have generally found her to be concerned and competent in all things my family has taken to her thus far. She is very willing to allow patients to participate in their care. SS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Somebody else is going to have to help me add this food or carb recommendation up. When I add up the carb recommendation I get a total of 195 grams of total carbs per day. This is just 5 grams shy of 200 grams of carbs. Since there are 5 calories in a single gram of carbs, I figure this caloric intake of 195 grams of carbs per day is just 25 calories short of a whopping 1000 calories consumed just in the carbs alone. Add that amount to the calories in protein consumption and fat consumption and it really adds up. There are 5 calories in a gram of protein and 9 calories in a gram of fat. Don't for get that there are 28 grams in a sincle ounce. For carb calories this would be 5*28=140 calories per ounce for protein calories this would be 5*28=140 calories per ounce For fat calories this would be 28*9=236 calories per ounce To achieve your weight goal just multiply the desired goal by 10, and you have the total amount of calories to consume each day. RE: Daily Food Assessment > Ruth, thanks. I should have mentioned that I usually have a > very unusual schedule. That is due to a lifelong problem > with sleep. So, when you see I had a snack at 5:00 AM that > was after working for a few hours already at that time. I > realize this is going to be an issue with diabetes and the > importance of keeping a consistent schedule. Just another > fly in the ointment. (Do flies contain carbs?) > > Regarding a's information, the dietitian I had phone > consult with advised that I have 45 carbs per meal and a > morning an dafternoon snack of 15 grams and then an evening > snack of 30 grams or 250 calories. Harry responds how much > more that is than he would ever be able to tolerate. So, > the confusion. I guess there are two camps about what is > right and I am going to have to learn about them both to see > what works for me. Of course, I am still at a point that I > don't really know how any of this effects my body. One of > the questions I have to put to my doctor is why she gave me > this urgency to watch my diet and then can't get me a > dietitian consult for over a month and won't see me herself > for a month. Is it that it's really not so crucial or > nothing is iminant or just the old thing that it's only > critical to those receiving care and not the care givers. I > hope I am not deceiving myself but I hope all of this is > just temporary and with consistently sensible diet, > exercise, etc. the diagnosis really doesn't mean more than a > warning. > > I got the book today that was recommended, so looking > forward to studying that to help clarify some of these > things. Will keep up what I can do till I find out I am > doing wrong. Thanks for everyone's ideas and experiences. > They are all helpful, even if they do give me more to look > into. > > SS > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release > Date: 10/7/2006 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 A gram of carbohydrate and a gram of protein both have four calories, not five. A gram of fat has nine calories. Jen RE: Daily Food Assessment > > >> Ruth, thanks. I should have mentioned that I usually have a >> very unusual schedule. That is due to a lifelong problem >> with sleep. So, when you see I had a snack at 5:00 AM that >> was after working for a few hours already at that time. I >> realize this is going to be an issue with diabetes and the >> importance of keeping a consistent schedule. Just another >> fly in the ointment. (Do flies contain carbs?) >> >> Regarding a's information, the dietitian I had phone >> consult with advised that I have 45 carbs per meal and a >> morning an dafternoon snack of 15 grams and then an evening >> snack of 30 grams or 250 calories. Harry responds how much >> more that is than he would ever be able to tolerate. So, >> the confusion. I guess there are two camps about what is >> right and I am going to have to learn about them both to see >> what works for me. Of course, I am still at a point that I >> don't really know how any of this effects my body. One of >> the questions I have to put to my doctor is why she gave me >> this urgency to watch my diet and then can't get me a >> dietitian consult for over a month and won't see me herself >> for a month. Is it that it's really not so crucial or >> nothing is iminant or just the old thing that it's only >> critical to those receiving care and not the care givers. I >> hope I am not deceiving myself but I hope all of this is >> just temporary and with consistently sensible diet, >> exercise, etc. the diagnosis really doesn't mean more than a >> warning. >> >> I got the book today that was recommended, so looking >> forward to studying that to help clarify some of these >> things. Will keep up what I can do till I find out I am >> doing wrong. Thanks for everyone's ideas and experiences. >> They are all helpful, even if they do give me more to look >> into. >> >> SS >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release >> Date: 10/7/2006 >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Hi , Another suggestion I have that will help you in your food choices, is to look up the glycemic index by Mendosa. It will help you to choose foods that are healthier for you. Always remember balance of your food groups. Both fiber and proteins help slow down absorption of carbs into the blood stream. Eat fruits and not fruit juices unless you are having a reaction (very low blood sugar). Juices go through the system too quickly, here again fiber is the difference. Ruth RE: Daily Food Assessment Harry, she is a Family Practice physician who graduated medical school in 1988. I have generally found her to be concerned and competent in all things my family has taken to her thus far. She is very willing to allow patients to participate in their care. SS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Thanks , You are right. A little web searching found the following: List of 4 items • 1 gram of carbohydrate = 4 calories • 1 gram of protein = 4 calories • 1 gram of fat = 9 calories • 1 gram of alcohol = 7 calories list end Knowing this, you can figure the number of calories in any food in which you know the grams of the above nutrients. There are still 28 grams in an ounce. <smile> At least I got something right! RE: Daily Food Assessment >> >> >>> Ruth, thanks. I should have mentioned that I usually have a >>> very unusual schedule. That is due to a lifelong problem >>> with sleep. So, when you see I had a snack at 5:00 AM that >>> was after working for a few hours already at that time. I >>> realize this is going to be an issue with diabetes and the >>> importance of keeping a consistent schedule. Just another >>> fly in the ointment. (Do flies contain carbs?) >>> >>> Regarding a's information, the dietitian I had phone >>> consult with advised that I have 45 carbs per meal and a >>> morning an dafternoon snack of 15 grams and then an evening >>> snack of 30 grams or 250 calories. Harry responds how much >>> more that is than he would ever be able to tolerate. So, >>> the confusion. I guess there are two camps about what is >>> right and I am going to have to learn about them both to see >>> what works for me. Of course, I am still at a point that I >>> don't really know how any of this effects my body. One of >>> the questions I have to put to my doctor is why she gave me >>> this urgency to watch my diet and then can't get me a >>> dietitian consult for over a month and won't see me herself >>> for a month. Is it that it's really not so crucial or >>> nothing is iminant or just the old thing that it's only >>> critical to those receiving care and not the care givers. I >>> hope I am not deceiving myself but I hope all of this is >>> just temporary and with consistently sensible diet, >>> exercise, etc. the diagnosis really doesn't mean more than a >>> warning. >>> >>> I got the book today that was recommended, so looking >>> forward to studying that to help clarify some of these >>> things. Will keep up what I can do till I find out I am >>> doing wrong. Thanks for everyone's ideas and experiences. >>> They are all helpful, even if they do give me more to look >>> into. >>> >>> SS >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release >>> Date: 10/7/2006 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Using correct data, refiguring the 195 grams of carbs consumed will yield a carb calorie count of 780. My particular formular for dosing Humalog is as follows: 0.4C=U The 0.4 or just plain .4 is a measure determined by trial and error exactly how many grams of carbs is handled by 1 unit of Humalog. The C is the total amount of grams of carbs consumed. The U is the total units of Humalog required to cover carbs consumed. The formular can only be derived by experimentation on yourself, since each diabetic is most likely different. So .4(195)=78 U of Humalog+39U of Lantus=a total of 117 total units of insulin per day just to handle the carbs consumed. That is a lot of insulin. RE: Daily Food Assessment > > >> Ruth, thanks. I should have mentioned that I usually have a >> very unusual schedule. That is due to a lifelong problem >> with sleep. So, when you see I had a snack at 5:00 AM that >> was after working for a few hours already at that time. I >> realize this is going to be an issue with diabetes and the >> importance of keeping a consistent schedule. Just another >> fly in the ointment. (Do flies contain carbs?) >> >> Regarding a's information, the dietitian I had phone >> consult with advised that I have 45 carbs per meal and a >> morning an dafternoon snack of 15 grams and then an evening >> snack of 30 grams or 250 calories. Harry responds how much >> more that is than he would ever be able to tolerate. So, >> the confusion. I guess there are two camps about what is >> right and I am going to have to learn about them both to see >> what works for me. Of course, I am still at a point that I >> don't really know how any of this effects my body. One of >> the questions I have to put to my doctor is why she gave me >> this urgency to watch my diet and then can't get me a >> dietitian consult for over a month and won't see me herself >> for a month. Is it that it's really not so crucial or >> nothing is iminant or just the old thing that it's only >> critical to those receiving care and not the care givers. I >> hope I am not deceiving myself but I hope all of this is >> just temporary and with consistently sensible diet, >> exercise, etc. the diagnosis really doesn't mean more than a >> warning. >> >> I got the book today that was recommended, so looking >> forward to studying that to help clarify some of these >> things. Will keep up what I can do till I find out I am >> doing wrong. Thanks for everyone's ideas and experiences. >> They are all helpful, even if they do give me more to look >> into. >> >> SS >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release >> Date: 10/7/2006 >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 I recommend you print out a copy of Diabetic Doter my article and give it to her. I would be surprised if she read it. In my experience I have found that most doctors prefer to be educated by the drug representatives. I hope she will read it. RE: Daily Food Assessment > Harry, she is a Family Practice physician who graduated > medical school in 1988. > > I have generally found her to be concerned and competent in > all things my family has taken to her thus far. She is very > willing to allow patients to participate in their care. > > SS > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release > Date: 10/7/2006 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 , Your men for this day is very high in carbohydrates-I would have to take lots and lots of insulin to keepmy sugars down after eating all that carb. Do you exercise a lot to burn that off? How are your blood sugars 2 hours after eating? Daily Food Assessment Hey all. If you don't mind, I thought I would start sending in my daily food log for your comment. I don't mean some sort of detailed nutritional evaluation, etc., but just what you experienced folk might see at a glance to give me ideas where you are coming from and things I need to look at as I find what works best for me. I sure will appreciate any pointers. I have been keeping this log to take with me when I see the dietitian for the first time since diagnosis of Type II. 5:00 AM Wheat Thins 9:00 AM Oatmeal (1/3 cup dry plus 1/3 cup frozen blueberries) 11:00 AM One-half banana 3:00 PM Tomato soup, Triscuits 7:00 PM 's grilled chicken sandwich (minus their mayo; used mustard, salad (I typically don't use dressing or just dip my fork in it on the side) SS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 That is whole lot of carbs! I would be running super high BGs if I ate even half tht many carbs. Do you exercise a lot to burn that off? Re: Daily Food Assessment I think you should ask your dietician if you are eating enough carbohydrates. I get 210 a day which is equaliviante to 14 snacks I mean a fruit, a ilk, a bread, crackers or cereal. Daily Food Assessment Hey all. If you don't mind, I thought I would start sending in my daily food log for your comment. I don't mean some sort of detailed nutritional evaluation, etc., but just what you experienced folk might see at a glance to give me ideas where you are coming from and things I need to look at as I find what works best for me. I sure will appreciate any pointers. I have been keeping this log to take with me when I see the dietitian for the first time since diagnosis of Type II. 5:00 AM Wheat Thins 9:00 AM Oatmeal (1/3 cup dry plus 1/3 cup frozen blueberries) 11:00 AM One-half banana 3:00 PM Tomato soup, Triscuits 7:00 PM 's grilled chicken sandwich (minus their mayo; used mustard, salad (I typically don't use dressing or just dip my fork in it on the side) SS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 You don't need to test. All you have to do is take a close look in the mirror and notice the whites of the eye. Even better get an independent observation from your spouse, friends or neighbors. You do not need a doctor's prescription to get a glucose meter or the test strips. Go get it yourself. My neighbor down the street gets within 10 points by just watching me walk. My wife gets within 5 points by just smelling my breath. It matches closely with the meter every time. Of course looking in the mirror will tell the trick! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah RE: Daily Food Assessment >I am not yet testing. I'm not sure why the doctor isn't > having me do so. I will be asking, though. I am taking > Metformin 750 once a day. > > Thanks! > > SS > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release > Date: 10/7/2006 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 E, If you doc does not have you testing, but has you on medication, I would change docs. How does he/she expect you know if the medication is even working if you are not testing? RE: Daily Food Assessment I am not yet testing. I'm not sure why the doctor isn't having me do so. I will be asking, though. I am taking Metformin 750 once a day. Thanks! SS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Right on. This message is a definite keeper! Daily Food Assessment > > I think the question is not how many carbs to eat for a t2 but to " eat to > your meter " . Given individual variation in biology and food habits the > only way to know is to set a post meal goal and then work backwards by > adjusting what is eaten and how much with meter results being the tool to > do so. > > The best goal is a normal range in response to a meal. A non-diabetic has > a typical rise not to exceed 12 - 21 points about 1 hour after beginning a > meal. At two hours it is back in the mid 80's again. The national endo > group suggests not exceeding 140 at two hours and a similar group in > europe > 135. That is the worst case number and not the best goal for health and > avoiding complications. It is a compromise of trying to get into best > ranges and what they think people will be willing to do. If they really > had their way a much closer to normal would be everyone's goal. > > Another way to gauge long term goals is the a1c. The normal range using > the post meal swings above are around an a1c of 4.8 to 5.3 for long > periods > of time as an average. The ada wants less then 6 as the worst case and as > close to the normal as possible. Just as an example, taking into account > post meal swings and between meal levels an a1c of 5 would average 100. > > Your meter is your friend and the only tool to know how to choose what and > how much to eat. > > > XB > IC|XC > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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