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Since you all are way more knowledgeable on this than I, can

you tell me if this is stimming behavior? My son is PDD-NOS and spoke late and even

though he talks well now at almost 7 years old, he doesn’t just chatter.

However, my daughter who is supposedly neurotypical talked early, walked early…and

hasn’t stopped moving or talking since. I’ve often wondered if she

talks just to hear herself talk. I never know how literal that could be until I

thought of it in the context of stimming. She has what we call diarrhea of the

mouth. We wouldn’t say these things to her, but we get tired of asking

her to give our brains a break. So even though she is telling us stories and

such, is this still considered verbal stimming? And if that is the case, I’m

guessing these supplements would have positive results, right?

Sherry Kolb

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===>Talking nonstop is an ADHD symptom, particularly common in girls.

Since you all are way more knowledgeable on this than I, can you tell me if this is stimming behavior? My son is PDD-NOS and spoke late and even though he talks well now at almost 7 years old, he doesn’t just chatter. However, my daughter who is supposedly neurotypical talked early, walked early…and hasn’t stopped moving or talking since. I’ve often wondered if she talks just to hear herself talk. I never know how literal that could be until I thought of it in the context of stimming. She has what we call diarrhea of the mouth. We wouldn’t say these things to her, but we get tired of asking her to give our brains a break. So even though she is telling us stories and such, is this still considered verbal stimming? And if that is the case, I’m guessing these supplements would have positive results, right?

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Sherry,

If your daughter can tell you a story then i wouldn't consider that stimming. My son just makes all the sounds to himself and it has no meaning at all.

Subject: Re:Verbal stimming - Posted last weekTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 10:56 PM

Since you all are way more knowledgeable on this than I, can you tell me if this is stimming behavior? My son is PDD-NOS and spoke late and even though he talks well now at almost 7 years old, he doesn’t just chatter. However, my daughter who is supposedly neurotypical talked early, walked early…and hasn’t stopped moving or talking since. I’ve often wondered if she talks just to hear herself talk. I never know how literal that could be until I thought of it in the context of stimming. She has what we call diarrhea of the mouth. We wouldn’t say these things to her, but we get tired of asking her to give our brains a break. So even though she is telling us stories and such, is this still considered verbal stimming? And if that is the case, I’m guessing these supplements would have positive results, right?

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Just my 2 cents here- sometimes it's just a child's personality, being a girl

combined with age. My now 14 yo NT daughter was like that when she was little.

Her name is la and we used to joke that we appropriately named her

" Gabby " . She was a constant chatterbox. This stopped around age 5 or 6 on it's

own.

My NT 5yo daughter does this sometimes, too. I don't feel like it's an issue for

her either.

My 10 yo ASD son (Asperger's) talks like that constantly. I've wondered the same

thing myself if it's a form of verbal stimming but I am not sure. I do know it's

part of the Asperger's.

What I've started doing with him is when I get to the point that I think I'm

going to lose my mind from hearing the same topic, I will take whatever topic

he's perseverating on and say " Oh, yeah, I forgot to tell you, there's this

thing called _________ (insert whatever topic) and I thought you might like to

know about it " . The first time he did this, he looked at me like I was crazy,

but then he got what I was doing. I kept repeating it back to him, then he said

" Oh, am I talking about this too much? " And he would stop (for awhile anyway).

So be a little more clear, the dialogue sounded like this. He had been talking

about a car racing computer game called Redline ad nauseum. So then I said after

awhile " Oh yeah, I heard about this computer game called Redline. It's about

racing cars. I think you'd really like it " . To which, he grinned and said " Oh,

mom! I know about that already. Am I talking too much about it? "

This little game has become my sanity saver. It's not mocking him, it's become a

signal for him to clue in that he needs to stop talking about the topic.

But go with your gut instinct. If you feel like something's not right, you are

probably right.

HTH,

Nanci

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> Since you all are way more knowledgeable on this than I, can you tell me if

> this is stimming behavior? My son is PDD-NOS and spoke late and even though

> he talks well now at almost 7 years old, he doesn't just chatter. However,

> my daughter who is supposedly neurotypical talked early, walked early.and

> hasn't stopped moving or talking since. I've often wondered if she talks

> just to hear herself talk. I never know how literal that could be until I

> thought of it in the context of stimming. She has what we call diarrhea of

> the mouth. We wouldn't say these things to her, but we get tired of asking

> her to give our brains a break. So even though she is telling us stories and

> such, is this still considered verbal stimming? And if that is the case, I'm

> guessing these supplements would have positive results, right?

>

>

>

> Sherry Kolb

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Oh my gosh, that phrase " diarrhea of the mouth " sent me back 25 years thinking

of my dad saying that to my sister LOL :)

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> Since you all are way more knowledgeable on this than I, can you tell me if

> this is stimming behavior? My son is PDD-NOS and spoke late and even though

> he talks well now at almost 7 years old, he doesn't just chatter. However,

> my daughter who is supposedly neurotypical talked early, walked early.and

> hasn't stopped moving or talking since. I've often wondered if she talks

> just to hear herself talk. I never know how literal that could be until I

> thought of it in the context of stimming. She has what we call diarrhea of

> the mouth. We wouldn't say these things to her, but we get tired of asking

> her to give our brains a break. So even though she is telling us stories and

> such, is this still considered verbal stimming? And if that is the case, I'm

> guessing these supplements would have positive results, right?

>

>

>

> Sherry Kolb

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I think I may have had a similar problem as a child. My mind was racing so fast

that it was actually difficult to organize my thoughts and say anything. I am

thinking that maybe your daughter's mind is racing, though at a rate where she

can actually verbalize all her thoughts. I know of several little girls like

this. Sorry, I don't know what would help this. I would venture a guess that

it has something to do with having a hyperthyroid, (symptoms being skinny,

active, gets cold easily-especially hands/feet).

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> Since you all are way more knowledgeable on this than I, can you tell me if

> this is stimming behavior? My son is PDD-NOS and spoke late and even though

> he talks well now at almost 7 years old, he doesn't just chatter. However,

> my daughter who is supposedly neurotypical talked early, walked early.and

> hasn't stopped moving or talking since. I've often wondered if she talks

> just to hear herself talk. I never know how literal that could be until I

> thought of it in the context of stimming. She has what we call diarrhea of

> the mouth. We wouldn't say these things to her, but we get tired of asking

> her to give our brains a break. So even though she is telling us stories and

> such, is this still considered verbal stimming? And if that is the case, I'm

> guessing these supplements would have positive results, right?

>

>

>

> Sherry Kolb

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In my case it's directly related to decreased ability to talk.

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> > Since you all are way more knowledgeable on this than I, can you tell me if

> > this is stimming behavior? My son is PDD-NOS and spoke late and even though

> > he talks well now at almost 7 years old, he doesn't just chatter. However,

> > my daughter who is supposedly neurotypical talked early, walked early.and

> > hasn't stopped moving or talking since. I've often wondered if she talks

> > just to hear herself talk. I never know how literal that could be until I

> > thought of it in the context of stimming. She has what we call diarrhea of

> > the mouth. We wouldn't say these things to her, but we get tired of asking

> > her to give our brains a break. So even though she is telling us stories and

> > such, is this still considered verbal stimming? And if that is the case, I'm

> > guessing these supplements would have positive results, right?

> >

> >

> >

> > Sherry Kolb

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Being that you mention it like that, maybe the regimen for

my son’s hyperactivity would help to calm her. Considering the foot

tapping and chewing on her fingers and such. We should call her Fidget. LOL.

Ironic too that hyperthyroid was mentioned, but they symptoms you described

seem a bit mixed up. I’m hypOthyroid due to Hashimoto’s and I have

the cold hands and feet, skinny and mind racing amongst others. I know a lot of

times they say hypERthyroid makes you skinny, but the HypER ones I’ve

known are on the heavier side and my sis and I with Hashimoto’s hang

around size 2-4. It’s so confusing.

Besides the constant motion, and the chatteryness, my 8 ½ y.o.

does the baby talk. Can’t stand that. She was diagnosed with jumper’s

knee in Kindergarten and complains of knee pain and stomach upsets frequently. She

spikes fevers off and on, too. And she’s VERY emotional and dramatic. If

I could channel that she would already have an . Her teeth have bad

cavities too, which is one more indicator of messed up metabolism.

I’m so tired of the Autism witch hunt. It seems like

everything relates back to immune system and the gut. I wish someone would

actually sort it all out. Not that I’m saying anything everyone else hasn’t

already thought 1,000s of times. I guess I’m just venting because I’m

paying another $500+ today for labs and wonder when it’s going to end for

my son, but wondering what to do about my daughter because every trouble she

has seems to be connected, but totally different.

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Sherry:

Some doctors and You tube videos as well, say that when one is very ill in the

family, the others have the same germs, just different symptoms. This is

definitely true at my house. Even pets are testing positive for the same

pathogens the family has. At my house, everyone responded to the same

treatments, even though the symptoms were different. So, what I am saying is

that likely your daughter does have many of the same pathogens and toxins your

son has, but just different symptoms.

I have my opinions as to what has taken out the immune system. You can read

about it at www.heidinotes.com I blame pleomorphic bacteria, and feel it causes

other pathogens and toxins to then stock-pile. I think it's being sorted out a

little, but that it's not getting enough attention. There are some savvy

doctors out there making great gains, but they are into the patients, not

writing books about it, yet. So, we need more time. But, in the meantime,

avoid things that are thought to contribute to autism because it's pretty scarey

to me about swine flu vaccines and gmo foods, and many other things I have come

across in my reasearch. We have all kinds of problems right now, taking down

our health in general. It's not just autism and ADHD, there are all kinds of

epidemics going on in MS, ALS, Lyme, cancer, etc.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

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> Being that you mention it like that, maybe the regimen for my son's

> hyperactivity would help to calm her. Considering the foot tapping and

> chewing on her fingers and such. We should call her Fidget. LOL. Ironic too

> that hyperthyroid was mentioned, but they symptoms you described seem a bit

> mixed up. I'm hypOthyroid due to Hashimoto's and I have the cold hands and

> feet, skinny and mind racing amongst others. I know a lot of times they say

> hypERthyroid makes you skinny, but the HypER ones I've known are on the

> heavier side and my sis and I with Hashimoto's hang around size 2-4. It's so

> confusing.

>

>

>

> Besides the constant motion, and the chatteryness, my 8 ½ y.o. does the baby

> talk. Can't stand that. She was diagnosed with jumper's knee in Kindergarten

> and complains of knee pain and stomach upsets frequently. She spikes fevers

> off and on, too. And she's VERY emotional and dramatic. If I could channel

> that she would already have an . Her teeth have bad cavities too, which

> is one more indicator of messed up metabolism.

>

>

>

> I'm so tired of the Autism witch hunt. It seems like everything relates back

> to immune system and the gut. I wish someone would actually sort it all out.

> Not that I'm saying anything everyone else hasn't already thought 1,000s of

> times. I guess I'm just venting because I'm paying another $500+ today for

> labs and wonder when it's going to end for my son, but wondering what to do

> about my daughter because every trouble she has seems to be connected, but

> totally different.

>

>

>

> Sherry Kolb

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