Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Obama has “0” experience in government compared to the other candidates. It is absurd that he is even running, much less the fact that he has a following. This “universal” health care idea sounds good to people who do not keep up with social and political ideas and unfortunately don’t have the education to make an informed decision. He preys upon these people. =^= spacecadet =^= From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of nne Svihlik Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:50 AM To: MSersLife Subject: Re: Is this off limits to discuss??? Well in that case I am totally against it. I had heard that somewhere but thought maybe the person was wrong. Hugs nne No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.1/822 - Release Date: 5/28/2007 11:40 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Here is where we are crossing the line in this topic discussion. You may not think universal health is a good idea. Or, you may not like Obama's particular plan. But, to say that he "preys upon" people who don't keep up with social & political ideas is crossing the line and taking a healthy discussion on the pros & cons of universal health care into the realm of bitter & nasty accusations and unproductive discourse. Please keep discussion to health care issues and not on a person's motivations for proposing a solution to our ever growing health care costs. --Mr. Dana F. Utz utzdana@... https://home.comcast.net/~utzdana/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Thank you, Dana--well said! Cheers! n Rojas5915@... RE: OBAMA is off limits - Is this off limits to discuss??? Here is where we are crossing the line in this topic discussion. You may not think universal health is a good idea. Or, you may not like Obama's particular plan. But, to say that he "preys upon" people who don't keep up with social & political ideas is crossing the line and taking a healthy discussion on the pros & cons of universal health care into the realm of bitter & nasty accusations and unproductive discourse. Please keep discussion to health care issues and not on a person's motivations for proposing a solution to our ever growing health care costs. --Mr. Dana F. Utz utzdanacomcast (DOT) net https://home.comcast.net/~utzdana/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Oh oh this sounds like this could turn into trouble. I am not for anyone in particular but feel that someone other than Sharon saying what is off limits might cause some problems. Sorry Sharon if this is butting in. Hugs nne Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Lifehttp://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html Anxiety Depression and Breast Cancerhttp://health.group.yahoo.com/group/AnxietyDepressionandBreastCancer Angel Feather Loomerwww.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com Check out my other ornaments atwww.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html The Cancer Clubwww.cancerclub.com RE: OBAMA is off limits - Is this off limits to discuss??? Obama has “0” experience in government compared to the other candidates. It is absurd that he is even running, much less the fact that he has a following. This “universal” health care idea sounds good to people who do not keep up with social and political ideas and unfortunately don’t have the education to make an informed decision. He preys upon these people. =^= spacecadet =^= From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of nne SvihlikSent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:50 AMTo: MSersLife Subject: Re: Is this off limits to discuss??? Well in that case I am totally against it. I had heard that somewhere but thought maybe the person was wrong. Hugs nne No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.1/822 - Release Date: 5/28/2007 11:40 AM No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 5/29/2007 1:01 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Indeed, nne; I am all for doing as Sharon originally suggested, discussing our ideas about health care, especially as it relates to MS, and not naming policial can didates, nor our personal political choices. Love to you and to Chuck, n Rojas5915@... RE: OBAMA is off limits - Is this off limits to discuss??? Obama has “0” experience in government compared to the other candidates. It is absurd that he is even running, much less the fact that he has a following. This “universal” health care idea sounds good to people who do not keep up with social and political ideas and unfortunately don’t have the education to make an informed decision. He preys upon these people. =^= spacecadet =^= From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of nne SvihlikSent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:50 AMTo: MSersLife Subject: Re: Is this off limits to discuss??? Well in that case I am totally against it. I had heard that somewhere but thought maybe the person was wrong. Hugs nne No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.1/822 - Release Date: 5/28/2007 11:40 AM No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 5/29/2007 1:01 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 I am NOT interested in Obama or whether or not he has any experience. My question was what do you all think of Universal Healthcare? Is it possible. The problems start when we start discussing individual candidates. I am only interested in people's views on whether or not Universal Healthcare can some day work. Hugs, Trista~~~~~~~~~~~And he said unto me, MY GRACE IS SUFFICIENT FOR THEE;FOR MY STRENGTH IS MADE PERFECT IN WEAKNESS. RE: OBAMA is off limits - Is this off limits to discuss??? Obama has “0” experience in government compared to the other candidates. It is absurd that he is even running, much less the fact that he has a following. This “universal” health care idea sounds good to people who do not keep up with social and political ideas and unfortunately don’t have the education to make an informed decision. He preys upon these people. =^= spacecadet =^= From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of nne SvihlikSent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:50 AMTo: MSersLife Subject: Re: Is this off limits to discuss??? Well in that case I am totally against it. I had heard that somewhere but thought maybe the person was wrong. Hugs nne No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.1/822 - Release Date: 5/28/2007 11:40 AM No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 5/29/2007 1:01 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Trista, YES! It works in Spain, Italy, France, all of NW Europe, all the NATO countries and it is not socialised save for in Spain! I think that if we were ever to dare to tax the earned incomes and investments of the wealthy, that universal health care could be achieved, solely by increasing the total revenue to the federal and state budgets. My mother lived to nearly 103; I pray that I may see this yet! There MUST be a way for so great a country as ours to achieve this, if only we all just really cared about one another! Thank you, Trista, and love to you! n Rojas5915@... RE: OBAMA is off limits - Is this off limits to discuss??? Obama has “0” experience in government compared to the other candidates. It is absurd that he is even running, much less the fact that he has a following. This “universal” health care idea sounds good to people who do not keep up with social and political ideas and unfortunately don’t have the education to make an informed decision. He preys upon these people. =^= spacecadet =^= From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of nne SvihlikSent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:50 AMTo: MSersLife Subject: Re: Is this off limits to discuss??? Well in that case I am totally against it. I had heard that somewhere but thought maybe the person was wrong. Hugs nne No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.1/822 - Release Date: 5/28/2007 11:40 AM No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 5/29/2007 1:01 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 I agree n. Our country has accomplished so much, that there must be a way. We must start caring more about our own people first. It is shameful that we have homeless veterans. We have a man in town here, reduced to asking for change, just to survive. (he is a double amputee Vietnam vet.) Hugs, Trista~~~~~~~~~~~And he said unto me, MY GRACE IS SUFFICIENT FOR THEE;FOR MY STRENGTH IS MADE PERFECT IN WEAKNESS. RE: OBAMA is off limits - Is this off limits to discuss??? Obama has “0” experience in government compared to the other candidates. It is absurd that he is even running, much less the fact that he has a following. This “universal” health care idea sounds good to people who do not keep up with social and political ideas and unfortunately don’t have the education to make an informed decision. He preys upon these people. =^= spacecadet =^= From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of nne SvihlikSent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:50 AMTo: MSersLife Subject: Re: Is this off limits to discuss??? Well in that case I am totally against it. I had heard that somewhere but thought maybe the person was wrong. Hugs nne No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.1/822 - Release Date: 5/28/2007 11:40 AM No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 5/29/2007 1:01 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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