Re: Re:Add ACN Question

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and they want you to treat patients for a total of $50 per session.

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we are OT ,CHT also and we also have PT and still they only pay

$50-55/visit. We have tried to get them to increase but they always say it is

under

review. We are trying to get $75/visit

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$50!!!!

Try $35 per visit in Florida.

, PT

Florida

Re: Re:Add ACN Question

and they want you to treat patients for a total of $50 per session.

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We are at $65 a visit and everybody from CVA to knee contusion seems to get 6 to

8 initial visits and then good luck getting more visits.

Matt Capo, PT

Accelerated Physical Therapy and Occupational Health, Inc.

Kiln and Bay St. Louis, MS

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we are OT ,CHT also and we also have PT and still they only pay

$50-55/visit. We have tried to get them to increase but they always say it is

under

review. We are trying to get $75/visit

Bubba Klostermann OT, CVE, CEAS

CEO, WORK & REHAB

4546 South 14 th

Abilene, Texas 79605

phone:

fax:

email: bubklo@...

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Is that $35 including the co-pay? That's the total amount!!?? Or is it $50

allowable and they pay $35 and the pt. has a $15 co-pay?

Matt Capo, PT

Accelerated Physical Therapy and Occupational Health, Inc.

Kiln and Bay St. Louis, MS

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thanks, I just sent my notification for termination. I have been considering

it for a while,but this discussion made me see the light. Thanks.

Bubba Klostermann OT, CVE, CEAS

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In a message dated 11/16/2006 7:28:41 AM Central Standard Time,

synergy8@... writes:

$50!!!!

Try $35 per visit in Florida.

This just begs the age old question-how many visits can a therapist do at a

loss before they make it up on volume.

Dick Hillyer would stop and point out an opportunity cost here and it is a

valid point-that is, if you have open appointments bringing in nothing, wouldn't

this fill in the cash flow gaps? It could, but I would suggest unless you

just opened a clinic, you would be better off walking away from these types of

contracts if you can.

Jim Hall, CPA <///><

Rehab Management Services, LLC

Cedar Rapids, IA

319/892-0142

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I plan to do the same very soon....within the next week.

Rohr, P.T

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thanks, I just sent my notification for termination. I have been considering

it for a while,but this discussion made me see the light. Thanks.

Bubba Klostermann OT, CVE, CEAS

CEO, WORK & REHAB

4546 South 14 th

Abilene, Texas 79605

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Matt,

$35 for the TOTAL AMOUNT. When I asked the representative from ACN if this was

correct, she sheepishly acknowledged that this was the amount being offered.

Needless to say, we turned down the contract.

, PT, MS

Florida

Re: Re:Add ACN Question

Is that $35 including the co-pay? That's the total amount!!?? Or is it $50

allowable and they pay $35 and the pt. has a $15 co-pay?

Matt Capo, PT

Accelerated Physical Therapy and Occupational Health, Inc.

Kiln and Bay St. Louis, MS

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In a message dated 11/17/2006 6:58:08 AM Central Standard Time,

synergy8@... writes:

$35 for the TOTAL AMOUNT.

I think we all need to think outside the box here. $35 may not seem like

much, but I was thinking of doing a public offering here online to raise the

capital necessary to start buying up failed Quick Lube Service lanes. We could

have cars pull up in two different lanes. One would be for traditional

insurances and the second would be an HMO express lane. And with all the public

money

I am going to raise with this idea, I could negotiate lower rates with HMO's

but only if they used the third lane we will add for HOV vehicles (rates would

be $25 per patient, $100 maximum per car). With my contract I would insist

on NO malpractice liability and I don't even think a PT to perform therapy

services would even be necessary. After all, Doctors have proven that

qualifications are necessary to bill for therapy services in their offices. For

anyone

that wants to invest, make your checks out to Jim Hall's Offshore Holdings, NLC

(No Liability Company).

Send those checks to my attorneys:

Dewey, Cheatum and Howe

111 Snake Oil Salesperson Blvd.

Hollywood, CA

With Tongue Firmly in Cheek

Jim <///><