Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 HI Bill: I think that the problem here is that no two professional people are going to agree on what your mother should and shouldn't have. I think you've got a great question here and sure hope that someone can help you to find a solution so that your mother can eat with discomfort or other difficulties and not be confused any further. Becky and Cassidy, Pilot Dog, Poodle maddpoodle27@... " Joy runs deeper than despair. " (Corrie ten Boom) Diet Database? My mother is 79, diabetic, and also has problems with her colon, gallbladder and kidneys, has severe arthritis and probably some other things I'm not aware of. Each time she goes to a doctor he/she or a nurse or dietician tell her what foods are good and what to avoid, for that specific medical problem she went in for. The problem is, with three or four major things wrong with her, each of these " specialists " confuses her even further with what's good and what's not, so she's left bewildered and just plain disgusted from the whole mess. My question is probably way out there and maybe not possible, but is there any known database that I could download that would give a wide range of foods and then show perhaps in different columns, what foods would be OK for diabetes, which ones are good if you have colon problems, gallbladder, etc., etc. It would be nice if perhaps I had something in black-and-white to show my dad, who could help my mom and also help her understand what common foods will be best for her. I can tell her all I want my opinion on certain foods, but next doctor visit, it's back to confusion city. It's like I'm working against the docs and nutritionists, who can't seem to agree on a set of foods she needs to stick with. Perhaps solid print data will seem more valid if there is such a list. Any takers on this? Bill Powers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 I don't know if there is a list, but a good dietician sh ould be able to help after she tells him/her what all her problems are. Diet Database? My mother is 79, diabetic, and also has problems with her colon, gallbladder and kidneys, has severe arthritis and probably some other things I'm not aware of. Each time she goes to a doctor he/she or a nurse or dietician tell her what foods are good and what to avoid, for that specific medical problem she went in for. The problem is, with three or four major things wrong with her, each of these " specialists " confuses her even further with what's good and what's not, so she's left bewildered and just plain disgusted from the whole mess. My question is probably way out there and maybe not possible, but is there any known database that I could download that would give a wide range of foods and then show perhaps in different columns, what foods would be OK for diabetes, which ones are good if you have colon problems, gallbladder, etc., etc. It would be nice if perhaps I had something in black-and-white to show my dad, who could help my mom and also help her understand what common foods will be best for her. I can tell her all I want my opinion on certain foods, but next doctor visit, it's back to confusion city. It's like I'm working against the docs and nutritionists, who can't seem to agree on a set of foods she needs to stick with. Perhaps solid print data will seem more valid if there is such a list. Any takers on this? Bill Powers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Hi Bill and all. Well, I don't have an answer for you Bill, but I want to ask the group a question also. I have had swollen feet and leggs for about 2 months. I have been to my family doctor, my cardiologist, my Endocrinologist, and my urologist. None of these doctors have found the cause. The medacations that I am taking are, 15 mgs of actos, a morning dose and an evening dose of byetta, one 81 mg assprin daily, and one 5/10 mg of lotreal. They took me off of the 10 mg of lisinopril and put me on the lotreal to see if the lisinopril was causing the swelling. Forty days later, I am still having trouble with swelling. I don't know where to go next. The cardiologist gave me a eccocardiogram and said that it was fine. The endocrinologist test the blood to see if the playtlets and blood cells were okay. They were. The urrologist tested my urren and took a picture of my bladder to see if I was emptying like I should have. It was fine. I am at a loss and don't know where to turn next. My feet feel like I have bricks on them. I can tell when I walk that my legs are very swollen. I am asking for your professional help. Thanks in advance. Jerry Litterell Also, I am 65 years of age. My fasting blood sugar has been around 110 lately. Diet Database? > My mother is 79, diabetic, and also has problems with her colon, > gallbladder > and kidneys, has severe arthritis and probably some other things I'm not > aware of. Each time she goes to a doctor he/she or a nurse or dietician > tell > her what foods are good and what to avoid, for that specific medical > problem > she went in for. The problem is, with three or four major things wrong > with > her, each of these " specialists " confuses her even further with what's > good > and what's not, so she's left bewildered and just plain disgusted from the > whole mess. My question is probably way out there and maybe not possible, > but is there any known database that I could download that would give a > wide > range of foods and then show perhaps in different columns, what foods > would > be OK for diabetes, which ones are good if you have colon problems, > gallbladder, etc., etc. It would be nice if perhaps I had something in > black-and-white to show my dad, who could help my mom and also help her > understand what common foods will be best for her. I can tell her all I > want > my opinion on certain foods, but next doctor visit, it's back to confusion > city. It's like I'm working against the docs and nutritionists, who can't > seem to agree on a set of foods she needs to stick with. Perhaps solid > print > data will seem more valid if there is such a list. Any takers on this? > > Bill Powers > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 , You would think that a good dietician should be able to get to the bottom of all her problems and find some common ground she can work with, but that doesn't seem to be happening. If it were, I wouldn't have to be looking elsewise. I don't know if it's because each one she talks to is so specialized they can't see the forest through the trees to get to work on other problems or just what's going on. In any case it makes it hard to define a set of foods that won't be " robbing to pay . " Bill Powers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 That's true. Can you go with her to the doc and state that to him/her? Re: Diet Database? , You would think that a good dietician should be able to get to the bottom of all her problems and find some common ground she can work with, but that doesn't seem to be happening. If it were, I wouldn't have to be looking elsewise. I don't know if it's because each one she talks to is so specialized they can't see the forest through the trees to get to work on other problems or just what's going on. In any case it makes it hard to define a set of foods that won't be " robbing to pay . " Bill Powers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Do yo know what your kidney function is? A urologist does not test kidney function-he works only on the bladder. If your kidneys are not doing well, it can cause edema in the feet. Also, if you have vascular problems in your legs, that can cause swelling without showing heart problems. Your endo should be doing creatinine levels to determine kidney function, veven if you are not seeing a nephrologist. Good luck. Re: Diet Database? Hi Bill and all. Well, I don't have an answer for you Bill, but I want to ask the group a question also. I have had swollen feet and leggs for about 2 months. I have been to my family doctor, my cardiologist, my Endocrinologist, and my urologist. None of these doctors have found the cause. The medacations that I am taking are, 15 mgs of actos, a morning dose and an evening dose of byetta, one 81 mg assprin daily, and one 5/10 mg of lotreal. They took me off of the 10 mg of lisinopril and put me on the lotreal to see if the lisinopril was causing the swelling. Forty days later, I am still having trouble with swelling. I don't know where to go next. The cardiologist gave me a eccocardiogram and said that it was fine. The endocrinologist test the blood to see if the playtlets and blood cells were okay. They were. The urrologist tested my urren and took a picture of my bladder to see if I was emptying like I should have. It was fine. I am at a loss and don't know where to turn next. My feet feel like I have bricks on them. I can tell when I walk that my legs are very swollen. I am asking for your professional help. Thanks in advance. Jerry Litterell Also, I am 65 years of age. My fasting blood sugar has been around 110 lately. Diet Database? > My mother is 79, diabetic, and also has problems with her colon, > gallbladder > and kidneys, has severe arthritis and probably some other things I'm not > aware of. Each time she goes to a doctor he/she or a nurse or dietician > tell > her what foods are good and what to avoid, for that specific medical > problem > she went in for. The problem is, with three or four major things wrong > with > her, each of these " specialists " confuses her even further with what's > good > and what's not, so she's left bewildered and just plain disgusted from the > whole mess. My question is probably way out there and maybe not possible, > but is there any known database that I could download that would give a > wide > range of foods and then show perhaps in different columns, what foods > would > be OK for diabetes, which ones are good if you have colon problems, > gallbladder, etc., etc. It would be nice if perhaps I had something in > black-and-white to show my dad, who could help my mom and also help her > understand what common foods will be best for her. I can tell her all I > want > my opinion on certain foods, but next doctor visit, it's back to confusion > city. It's like I'm working against the docs and nutritionists, who can't > seem to agree on a set of foods she needs to stick with. Perhaps solid > print > data will seem more valid if there is such a list. Any takers on this? > > Bill Powers > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 I'd like to go with her to her doctor but usually it's when I'm working and I only find out about her doctor appointments AFTER the fact. I wish she would tell me ahead of time then maybe I could make arrangements to get into the picture and do something. Sometimes I almost think she'd rather circumvent me so she would have something to complain about, maybe that's why I don't find out about the visits, but then what do I know, right? But seriously, I hope to find some way to intervene because she's getting nowhere and she's not forceful enough to demand solid answers and not " educated " enough to understand what the doc might try and tell her. It's frustrating but I will have to try something to help. Bill Powers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Hi Jerry: Have you had your heart checked out yet? If that checks out all right I'd say it is a medication issue, but I would want to rule out a possible heart problem here I think. Becky and Cassidy, Pilot Dog, Poodle maddpoodle27@... " Joy runs deeper than despair. " (Corrie ten Boom) Diet Database? > My mother is 79, diabetic, and also has problems with her colon, > gallbladder > and kidneys, has severe arthritis and probably some other things I'm not > aware of. Each time she goes to a doctor he/she or a nurse or dietician > tell > her what foods are good and what to avoid, for that specific medical > problem > she went in for. The problem is, with three or four major things wrong > with > her, each of these " specialists " confuses her even further with what's > good > and what's not, so she's left bewildered and just plain disgusted from the > whole mess. My question is probably way out there and maybe not possible, > but is there any known database that I could download that would give a > wide > range of foods and then show perhaps in different columns, what foods > would > be OK for diabetes, which ones are good if you have colon problems, > gallbladder, etc., etc. It would be nice if perhaps I had something in > black-and-white to show my dad, who could help my mom and also help her > understand what common foods will be best for her. I can tell her all I > want > my opinion on certain foods, but next doctor visit, it's back to confusion > city. It's like I'm working against the docs and nutritionists, who can't > seem to agree on a set of foods she needs to stick with. Perhaps solid > print > data will seem more valid if there is such a list. Any takers on this? > > Bill Powers > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 It sounds like part of the problem is she's dealing with more than one dietitian. And it also sounds like the various members of her nonexistent healthcare team aren't talking to each other. Perhaps you can facilitate some communication here. Mike > , > > You would think that a good dietician should be able to get to the bottom of > all her problems and find some common ground she can work with, but that > doesn't seem to be happening. If it were, I wouldn't have to be looking > elsewise. I don't know if it's because each one she talks to is so > specialized they can't see the forest through the trees to get to work on > other problems or just what's going on. In any case it makes it hard to > define a set of foods that won't be " robbing to pay . " > > Bill Powers > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Mike, Bingo! With all the modern technology and close communication we're enabled with, I'm stunned that none of my mother's docs seem to communicate so it's the old " right hand doesn't know what the left hand's doing. " I'm working on finding a way to get these guys on the same page. My mom's already confused enough and so is my dad. It's bewildering even to me, but they have to deal with this every day and they're not able to cope. Hopefully I can find something soon that will help them both. Thanks, Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Bill, Ask her when her next appointment is-and then ask if she wants to come. If she wants to complainand not do anything, then she will tell you she doesn't want you to go! Re: Diet Database? I'd like to go with her to her doctor but usually it's when I'm working and I only find out about her doctor appointments AFTER the fact. I wish she would tell me ahead of time then maybe I could make arrangements to get into the picture and do something. Sometimes I almost think she'd rather circumvent me so she would have something to complain about, maybe that's why I don't find out about the visits, but then what do I know, right? But seriously, I hope to find some way to intervene because she's getting nowhere and she's not forceful enough to demand solid answers and not " educated " enough to understand what the doc might try and tell her. It's frustrating but I will have to try something to help. Bill Powers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Yes, he is right. It's good you have you appers to be so careful watching after you. Are you on an anticoagulante? Aspirin or something else? Re: Diet Database? , I was thinking about what you ask me about going to the cardiologist. In 2001 I had gall bladder surgery. Afterwards I came down with multiple blood clots in both lungs. They said it was caused from the surgery that I had. I think he wants to keep an eye on me because of that. He also said that sometimes, after having the clots, you can be left with some cardiology problems. I hope that answers your question. Jerry Litterell Diet Database? >>> >>> >>>> My mother is 79, diabetic, and also has problems with her colon, >>>> gallbladder >>>> and kidneys, has severe arthritis and probably some other things I'm >>>> not >>>> aware of. Each time she goes to a doctor he/she or a nurse or dietician >>>> tell >>>> her what foods are good and what to avoid, for that specific medical >>>> problem >>>> she went in for. The problem is, with three or four major things wrong >>>> with >>>> her, each of these " specialists " confuses her even further with what's >>>> good >>>> and what's not, so she's left bewildered and just plain disgusted from >>>> the >>>> whole mess. My question is probably way out there and maybe not >>>> possible, >>>> but is there any known database that I could download that would give a >>>> wide >>>> range of foods and then show perhaps in different columns, what foods >>>> would >>>> be OK for diabetes, which ones are good if you have colon problems, >>>> gallbladder, etc., etc. It would be nice if perhaps I had something in >>>> black-and-white to show my dad, who could help my mom and also help her >>>> understand what common foods will be best for her. I can tell her all I >>>> want >>>> my opinion on certain foods, but next doctor visit, it's back to >>>> confusion >>>> city. It's like I'm working against the docs and nutritionists, who >>>> can't >>>> seem to agree on a set of foods she needs to stick with. Perhaps solid >>>> print >>>> data will seem more valid if there is such a list. Any takers on this? >>>> >>>> Bill Powers >>>> >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 The only blood thinner that I take is the 81 mg aspirin daily. I was on cumodon for about ten months back when I had the clots. Jerry Diet Database? >>>> >>>> >>>>> My mother is 79, diabetic, and also has problems with her colon, >>>>> gallbladder >>>>> and kidneys, has severe arthritis and probably some other things I'm >>>>> not >>>>> aware of. Each time she goes to a doctor he/she or a nurse or >>>>> dietician >>>>> tell >>>>> her what foods are good and what to avoid, for that specific medical >>>>> problem >>>>> she went in for. The problem is, with three or four major things wrong >>>>> with >>>>> her, each of these " specialists " confuses her even further with what's >>>>> good >>>>> and what's not, so she's left bewildered and just plain disgusted from >>>>> the >>>>> whole mess. My question is probably way out there and maybe not >>>>> possible, >>>>> but is there any known database that I could download that would give >>>>> a >>>>> wide >>>>> range of foods and then show perhaps in different columns, what foods >>>>> would >>>>> be OK for diabetes, which ones are good if you have colon problems, >>>>> gallbladder, etc., etc. It would be nice if perhaps I had something in >>>>> black-and-white to show my dad, who could help my mom and also help >>>>> her >>>>> understand what common foods will be best for her. I can tell her all >>>>> I >>>>> want >>>>> my opinion on certain foods, but next doctor visit, it's back to >>>>> confusion >>>>> city. It's like I'm working against the docs and nutritionists, who >>>>> can't >>>>> seem to agree on a set of foods she needs to stick with. Perhaps solid >>>>> print >>>>> data will seem more valid if there is such a list. Any takers on this? >>>>> >>>>> Bill Powers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Good old aspirin-that usually takes care of it, unless someonhas major clotting problems. Re: Diet Database? The only blood thinner that I take is the 81 mg aspirin daily. I was on cumodon for about ten months back when I had the clots. Jerry Diet Database? >>>> >>>> >>>>> My mother is 79, diabetic, and also has problems with her colon, >>>>> gallbladder >>>>> and kidneys, has severe arthritis and probably some other things I'm >>>>> not >>>>> aware of. Each time she goes to a doctor he/she or a nurse or >>>>> dietician >>>>> tell >>>>> her what foods are good and what to avoid, for that specific medical >>>>> problem >>>>> she went in for. The problem is, with three or four major things wrong >>>>> with >>>>> her, each of these " specialists " confuses her even further with what's >>>>> good >>>>> and what's not, so she's left bewildered and just plain disgusted from >>>>> the >>>>> whole mess. My question is probably way out there and maybe not >>>>> possible, >>>>> but is there any known database that I could download that would give >>>>> a >>>>> wide >>>>> range of foods and then show perhaps in different columns, what foods >>>>> would >>>>> be OK for diabetes, which ones are good if you have colon problems, >>>>> gallbladder, etc., etc. It would be nice if perhaps I had something in >>>>> black-and-white to show my dad, who could help my mom and also help >>>>> her >>>>> understand what common foods will be best for her. I can tell her all >>>>> I >>>>> want >>>>> my opinion on certain foods, but next doctor visit, it's back to >>>>> confusion >>>>> city. It's like I'm working against the docs and nutritionists, who >>>>> can't >>>>> seem to agree on a set of foods she needs to stick with. Perhaps solid >>>>> print >>>>> data will seem more valid if there is such a list. Any takers on this? >>>>> >>>>> Bill Powers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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