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Hello fellow sugar addict,

It takes one to know one, as they say. I was a type 2 diabetic on oral

medications, and I always ran an A1C of less than 6.0. You don't know it,

but I am going to tell you any way. You are playing Russian roulette. Yum,

yum, I love those cookies, pies, cakes and regular cokes and lots of

chocolate candy and beer. How old are you? You might get away with it as

long as I did. On my first heart attack I was an old 47 years of age. When

I got out of the hospital, I continued to eat all those sugars, since my

doctor said my A1C's were just fine. Never mind that all of them were below

6.0, a lot better than what you are reporting yours are. Back then the

doctors did not know that running high blood sugars was the culprit in my

heart attacks. In fact I felt secure in eating all the sugar I wanted at

least one or maybe two half gallons of ice cream each week, during a slow

week of sugar heaven. The sweets continued and the A1C's stayed below 6.0.

Still I had another one at age 55, and my A1C's still ran below 6.0 and I

continued to eat any and all of the sweets I wanted. Well, I had another

one of them at age 59 and I still ate all of the sweets I wanted since my

A1C's ran 6.0 or lower. Finally, the oral medications would not work any

more, since I had consumed so much sweets that it caused my pancrease to

keep pumping out all of that insulin, that I developed one hell of a case of

insulin resistance, and finally I started running an A1C of 7.2 and a lot

higher. My pancrease had played out. Now it dawned on me. Maybe peaking

all of those blood sugar levels was not so good an idea. Now I am insulin

dependent and lucky to be alive. One third to one half of all heart attack

victims do not survive their first heart attack. If you keep playing with

that sweet rattle snake, one day it is going to bite you.

Refined carbohydrates are not good for anyone, especially when eaten and

drank regularly. I would safely say for a diabetic, it is a definite no no.

Let It Bleed,

>

>

> No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

> released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

> this morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough

> blood for the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This

> isn't the first time this has happened. I just gave up after a half hour

> of trying in shure frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

> Take care.

>

> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

> often would I think of God?

>

>

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In my opinion there is very little difference in raising my blood sugar

level with a refined carbohydrate like a piece of bread, which is mostly

made with flour, a refined carbohydrate or a piece of candy containing the

same number of grams of carbs. Of course whole wheat bread or whole grain

flour is better for you, since it contains more vitamins, minerals and

enzymes. What is a refined carbohydrate? Some examples follow:

all sugar products and all flour products like bread, pasta sphagetti, pies

cakes, cookies, fruit juices, corn meal, ice cream, and practically any

thing you would like to eat. If it is white, like milk, rice, potatoes and

so forth, it is probably not good for a diabetic. I still eat candy from

time to time, but not often. I just love one of those small chocolate bars

that contains around 5 or 6 grams of carbs. The only thing I don't like

about them is they are really small, but then I can only eat one of them any

how.

Let It Bleed,

No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

this

morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough blood for

the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This isn't the

first

time this has happened. I just gave up after a half hour of trying in

shure

frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

Take care.

If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

often would I think of God?

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I think you're a good adviser as no doubt, you've as you said, are playing

russian rullet; I'll do better as I've even taken on a problem of urinating

too often and feel tha'ts the way the body is trying to counteract these sugars.

some days I have to go less than others, but my brother, who is also a type

two diabeti, advises to cut down on sugars. TXS again; Ken bc

Let It Bleed,

>

>

> No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

> released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

> this morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough

> blood for the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This

> isn't the first time this has happened. I just gave up after a half hour

> of trying in shure frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

> Take care.

>

> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

> often would I think of God?

>

>

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I bet you can do it Ken! Just one step at a time. There are really good

cookies that are low carb you can get from: josephslightcookies.com. There

is only 15 grams of carbs in 4 cookies. They are crunchy and come in a

variety of flavors.

Re: Need some help re sweet stuff;

I think you're a good adviser as no doubt, you've as you said, are playing

russian rullet; I'll do better as I've even taken on a problem of

urinating too often and feel tha'ts the way the body is trying to counteract

these sugars. some days I have to go less than others, but my brother, who

is also a type two diabeti, advises to cut down on sugars. TXS again; Ken

bc

Let It Bleed,

>

>

> No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

> released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

> this morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough

> blood for the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This

> isn't the first time this has happened. I just gave up after a half

hour

> of trying in shure frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

> Take care.

>

> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

> often would I think of God?

>

>

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IMO the difference between refined and nonrefined carbs is that the

former have had most or all of the fiber removed. Hence, there is

nothing to mediate or slow down the absorption of the energy in them

into the bloodstream in the form of glucose.

Mike

> In my opinion there is very little difference in raising my blood sugar

> level with a refined carbohydrate like a piece of bread, which is mostly

> made with flour, a refined carbohydrate or a piece of candy containing the

> same number of grams of carbs. Of course whole wheat bread or whole grain

> flour is better for you, since it contains more vitamins, minerals and

> enzymes. What is a refined carbohydrate? Some examples follow:

> all sugar products and all flour products like bread, pasta sphagetti, pies

> cakes, cookies, fruit juices, corn meal, ice cream, and practically any

> thing you would like to eat. If it is white, like milk, rice, potatoes and

> so forth, it is probably not good for a diabetic. I still eat candy from

> time to time, but not often. I just love one of those small chocolate bars

> that contains around 5 or 6 grams of carbs. The only thing I don't like

> about them is they are really small, but then I can only eat one of them any

> how.

> Let It Bleed,

>

>

> No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

> released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

> this

> morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough blood for

> the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This isn't the

> first

> time this has happened. I just gave up after a half hour of trying in

> shure

> frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

> Take care.

>

> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

> often would I think of God?

>

>

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You are right about that Harry. But it is much harder, in my opinion, for

someone on medication instead of insulin to get their BG down after eating

too much sugar. And, as you said, other types of carbs are better

nutritionally, for you than refined sugars. But, darn it, we all love those

refined sugars occasionally!

Re: Need some help re sweet stuff;

In my opinion there is very little difference in raising my blood sugar

level with a refined carbohydrate like a piece of bread, which is mostly

made with flour, a refined carbohydrate or a piece of candy containing the

same number of grams of carbs. Of course whole wheat bread or whole grain

flour is better for you, since it contains more vitamins, minerals and

enzymes. What is a refined carbohydrate? Some examples follow:

all sugar products and all flour products like bread, pasta sphagetti, pies

cakes, cookies, fruit juices, corn meal, ice cream, and practically any

thing you would like to eat. If it is white, like milk, rice, potatoes and

so forth, it is probably not good for a diabetic. I still eat candy from

time to time, but not often. I just love one of those small chocolate bars

that contains around 5 or 6 grams of carbs. The only thing I don't like

about them is they are really small, but then I can only eat one of them any

how.

Let It Bleed,

No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

this

morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough blood for

the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This isn't the

first

time this has happened. I just gave up after a half hour of trying in

shure

frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

Take care.

If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

often would I think of God?

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Learn to count carbs. Consume no mor than 30 grams of carbs at a meal. One

piece of pie or three cookies are more than that. One regular candy bar has

more than that, too. Learn to love raw vegetables like carrots, celery,

cabbage, broccoli and others. Cheeses, which have little to almost no

carbs, make a good snack. A handful of nuts contains a small number of

carbs. When I eat a single piece of bread now a days, which it only

contains 15 grams of carbs, it is almost like eating a piece of cake. I

know about sugar addiction, and I know it is a habit. Just form some new

habits.

Let It Bleed,

> >

> >

> > No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

> > released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

> > this morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough

> > blood for the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This

> > isn't the first time this has happened. I just gave up after a half

> hour

> > of trying in shure frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

> > Take care.

> >

> > If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

> > often would I think of God?

> >

> >

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Every time you pick up a refined carbohydrate just say over and over to

yourself, " This is poison to my system. " You may eventually come to believe

it.

Let It Bleed,

> >

> >

> > No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

> > released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

> > this morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough

> > blood for the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This

> > isn't the first time this has happened. I just gave up after a half

> hour

> > of trying in shure frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

> > Take care.

> >

> > If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

> > often would I think of God?

> >

> >

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very true.

Let It Bleed,

>>

>>

>> No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

>> released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

>> this

>> morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough blood

>> for

>> the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This isn't the

>> first

>> time this has happened. I just gave up after a half hour of trying in

>> shure

>> frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

>> Take care.

>>

>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>> often would I think of God?

>>

>>

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No, it doesn't matter, Ken. It is just that in reality, 6.5 is running a

little high-no matter what caused it! (P.S. I know that a 6.5 due to a

piece of pie is probably much enjoyable than a boring piece of wheat

bread-and once in a while is probably okay-but daily keeps your total A1C

level too high)

Re: Need some help re sweet stuff;

Ok, thanks. Up here in canada, some are thinking that 6.5 and under is ok.

Tell me; Is there any difference between running up a 6.5 glucos count by

either eating a piece of pie, or alternativelydoing the same count by

eating say some bread that amounts up to the same 6.5 or under, as far

as carbs goes??

Let It Bleed,

No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

this

morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough blood for

the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This isn't the

first

time this has happened. I just gave up after a half hour of trying in

shure

frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

Take care.

If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

often would I think of God?

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Count those carbs and test two hours after eating. If you can always or

over 90% of the time or more, get a mole reading of 6.67 or less, then you

will obtain an A1C of 5.5 or lower after three or four months of doing so.

If you run a higher mole reading than 6.67, then you are either eating too

many carbs or not taking enough medication.

Let It Bleed,

>

>

> No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

> released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

> this

> morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough blood

> for

> the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This isn't the

> first

> time this has happened. I just gave up after a half hour of trying in

> shure

> frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

> Take care.

>

> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

> often would I think of God?

>

>

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Hary, I know this was addressed to Ken but it sure is a wake-up call to all

of us just starting out with diabetes. sometimes it se3ems that a little

sugar here or there really doesn't matter. I'm so sorry you had to go

through all that you did in your life but happy you are shring it here, as I

think we can all read this letter whenever we get the old ideas in the

brain. thanks.

Vicki

" Do not love the world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the

world, you do not have the love of the Father in you. For the world offers

only

a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride

in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but they

are from this world. And this world is fading away, along with everything

that people crave. But anyone who does what pleases God will live forever. "

1

2:15

Let It Bleed,

>

>

> No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

> released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

> this morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough

> blood for the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This

> isn't the first time this has happened. I just gave up after a half hour

> of trying in shure frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

> Take care.

>

> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

> often would I think of God?

>

>

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Unless a person is a total psychopath, who has no guilt, then it is a good

sign to have a little guilt, since this guilty feeling signals the person

that hey are doing something wrong. So, if eating pies, cakes and cookies

and ice cream sends a guilty feeling to you, pay attention to that feeling.

It is telling you that you are doing something that you should know better

not to do.

Let It Bleed,

>>

>>

>> No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

>> released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

>> this morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough

>> blood for the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This

>> isn't the first time this has happened. I just gave up after a half hour

>> of trying in shure frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

>> Take care.

>>

>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>> often would I think of God?

>>

>>

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Hi Harry:

Be careful of the supposed low carb pastas, too. Bob read some labels and

the pastas that are supposed to be low carb have as many carbs as the

regular stuff.

If I want chocolate I do sugar free and limit myself to one small piece

because of the calories, carbs, and what over eating sugar free stuff can do

to the digestive system.

Becky and Cassidy, Pilot Dog, Poodle

maddpoodle27@...

Let It Bleed,

>

>

> No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

> released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

> this

> morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough blood

> for

> the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This isn't the

> first

> time this has happened. I just gave up after a half hour of trying in

> shure

> frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

> Take care.

>

> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

> often would I think of God?

>

>

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HI :

You are right on here. If my sugar goes up it is harder to get it back down

even with Avandia than I would have expected, but it does come back down

thankfully.

Becky and Cassidy, Pilot Dog, Poodle

maddpoodle27@...

Let It Bleed,

>

>

> No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

> released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

> this

> morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough blood

> for

> the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This isn't the

> first

> time this has happened. I just gave up after a half hour of trying in

> shure

> frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

> Take care.

>

> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

> often would I think of God?

>

>

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Becky,

You are right on with the " low carb " , " low sugar " , " sugar free " and other

such labels Madison Avenue has come up with.

The other killer is " Diatetic " which is easily (far too easily) confused

with " Diabetic " .

Crystal checked the Viva milk because it was supposed to be " low carb " . Hmm,

for whatever reason the carb count was exactly the same as the real thing...

" no sugar added " is also a real blind sider because what the really mean is

that they have not added the " processed " sugars to it. I could contain any

amount of the " natural " sugar such as Fructose or whatever.

Interestingly also is the fact that Great Value peanut butter had fewer

carbs than the " natural " peanut butter.

Oh well, as Harry, myself and other good folks have said " If it tasts good

spit it out because it probably is not good for you " - (LOL)

Cy, the Ancient Okie...

Re: Need some help re sweet stuff;

Hi Harry:

Be careful of the supposed low carb pastas, too. Bob read some labels and

the pastas that are supposed to be low carb have as many carbs as the

regular stuff.

If I want chocolate I do sugar free and limit myself to one small piece

because of the calories, carbs, and what over eating sugar free stuff can do

to the digestive system.

Becky and Cassidy, Pilot Dog, Poodle

maddpoodle27@...

Let It Bleed,

>

>

> No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

> released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

> this

> morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough blood

> for

> the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This isn't the

> first

> time this has happened. I just gave up after a half hour of trying in

> shure

> frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

> Take care.

>

> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

> often would I think of God?

>

>

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Harry, were you exercising a lot to keep you a1c under 6 with what you ate?

c-

Let It Bleed,

> >>

> >>

> >> No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

> >> released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

> >> this morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough

> >> blood for the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This

> >> isn't the first time this has happened. I just gave up after a half

hour

> >> of trying in shure frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

> >> Take care.

> >>

> >> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

> >> often would I think of God?

> >>

> >>

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Way back then I was a regular swimmer. I would swim a mile three times a

week. Since all my shoulder problems, I have given up swimming altogether.

Let It Bleed,

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

>> >> released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

>> >> this morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough

>> >> blood for the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This

>> >> isn't the first time this has happened. I just gave up after a half

> hour

>> >> of trying in shure frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

>> >> Take care.

>> >>

>> >> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>> >> often would I think of God?

>> >>

>> >>

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Hi virginia; TXS for the encouragement.There's some stores in Toronto where I

can purchase these nutricious but less sugars type of foods. Ken B

Let It Bleed,

>

>

> No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

> released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

> this morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough

> blood for the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This

> isn't the first time this has happened. I just gave up after a half

hour

> of trying in shure frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

> Take care.

>

> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

> often would I think of God?

>

>

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HI Cy:

You are absolutely right here. Another false one that they have out there is

" no cholesterol added. " While they are admitting that they don't add

cholesterol to the product it might still be positively loaded with

cholesterol that is naturally found in the product.

My poor mother-in-law used to believe that if the label said that there was

no cholesterol added that it meant that the product didn't have any

cholesterol and therefore was all right for her to eat.

I have indeed heard people confuse " dietetic " with " Diabetic " and there are

most definitely quite different.

Becky and Cassidy, Pilot Dog, Poodle

maddpoodle27@...

Let It Bleed,

>>

>>

>> No I'm not going to talk about that excellent Rolling Stones album

>> released in 1970, but for some reason I couldn't get a good sugar test

>> this

>> morning. I couldn't get my finger to bleed enough to get enough blood

>> for

>> the strip on my accucheck voicemate. Any suggestions? This isn't the

>> first

>> time this has happened. I just gave up after a half hour of trying in

>> shure

>> frustration. And besides breakfast was ready.

>> Take care.

>>

>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>> often would I think of God?

>>

>>

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