Guest guest Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 I have both and they do just about the same thing. Having both though reduces the chances of getting bored with one or the other. My question is, what constitutes intense exercise. I read before, when you start breathing through your mouth and can't just carry a conversation is a sign of reaching a level of intensity. Victor ø$ ã exercise, > Hi all, Bill, I just read your article on the peddler, never heard of it, where did you buy it, from a regular store or somewhere else? > Well, I am at a plateu also and I'm rather frustrated. I have a question. Today I bought a treadmill. it was on an incredible sale and a floor model so I just took the plunge, waiting for famiy to deliver it. now, I normally exercisse on an exercise bike every day. When I have both, what do I do, do both every day, or alternate? I guess I could just fool around with it but I thought some of you mighthave had experience with these. > Vicki > " Do not love the world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the world, you do not have the love of the Father in you. For the world offers only > a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but they > are from this world. And this world is fading away, along with everything that people crave. But anyone who does what pleases God will live forever. " 1 > 2:15 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 I have heard that explanation in terms of walking, I'm not sure where, so it probably applies. I imagine that another waying of stating it for those of us who like music with out exercise is that when you are unable to sing along with the songs, you are doing it right. I also wonder about the heart-rate, exactly what should the heartrate be in intense exercise and can you estimate it by touching a pulse with your finger or are you supposed to count somehow? Vicki " Do not love the world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the world, you do not have the love of the Father in you. For the world offers only a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but they are from this world. And this world is fading away, along with everything that people crave. But anyone who does what pleases God will live forever. " 1 2:15 exercise, > > >> Hi all, Bill, I just read your article on the peddler, never heard of it, > where did you buy it, from a regular store or somewhere else? >> Well, I am at a plateu also and I'm rather frustrated. I have a > question. Today I bought a treadmill. it was on an incredible sale and a > floor model so I just took the plunge, waiting for famiy to deliver it. > now, I normally exercisse on an exercise bike every day. When I have > both, > what do I do, do both every day, or alternate? I guess I could just fool > around with it but I thought some of you mighthave had experience with > these. >> Vicki >> " Do not love the world nor the things it offers you, for when you love >> the > world, you do not have the love of the Father in you. For the world offers > only >> a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and > pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, > but they >> are from this world. And this world is fading away, along with everything > that people crave. But anyone who does what pleases God will live > forever. " > 1 >> 2:15 >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 Vicki, I wouldn't try to exercise on both the treadmill and the exercise bike in the same day or at least in the same part of the day, unless and until you built up to it. A treadmill is a lot better than an exercise bike and can give you all the benefits of the bike and then some but sometimes by using a treadmill you can overwork some muscles in a zealous attempt to get fit, so alternating might be a good idea since you now have both. Perhaps you will find over time that you're doing better with the treadmill and you can dispense with the bike and sell it to someone else when you've outgrown it. As for the Pedaler, I did a Google search and came across a place called Drive, who assembles the unit and then ships it out. Oh you can get these at Walgreen's for about $49, not assembled, but I got mine through Drive for about half that, and am very pleased with the unit. Very simple to use, just take it out of the box, screw on the tension adjuster and you're good to go. Hope that helps. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 Victor, Your definition of intensity is an interesting one but I would say that doing intnse exercise is different for each person. In my case I deem I have done intense exercise when I start dripping sweat, while others will get consideerably more short of breath and have to really work at breathing. Some people can handle " rigorous " exercise better than others. For some who are extremely deconditioned, rigorous exercise would be when you get a certain " stiffness " or " pain " in the leg or arm from using it more than you normally do, and that's the point you stop at until you build up your strength. As time would go on you would push the envelope on what is intense exercise for you. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 it sure did help, thanks so much Bill. Vicki Breffe " Do not love the world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the world, you do not have the love of the Father in you. For the world offers only a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but they are from this world. And this world is fading away, along with everything that people crave. But anyone who does what pleases God will live forever. " 1 2:15 Re: exercise, > Vicki, > > I wouldn't try to exercise on both the treadmill and the exercise bike in > the same day or at least in the same part of the day, unless and until you > built up to it. A treadmill is a lot better than an exercise bike and can > give you all the benefits of the bike and then some but sometimes by using > a > treadmill you can overwork some muscles in a zealous attempt to get fit, > so > alternating might be a good idea since you now have both. Perhaps you will > find over time that you're doing better with the treadmill and you can > dispense with the bike and sell it to someone else when you've outgrown > it. > > As for the Pedaler, I did a Google search and came across a place called > Drive, who assembles the unit and then ships it out. Oh you can get these > at > Walgreen's for about $49, not assembled, but I got mine through Drive for > about half that, and am very pleased with the unit. Very simple to use, > just > take it out of the box, screw on the tension adjuster and you're good to > go. > > Hope that helps. > > Bill > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 HI Vicki: I would either divide up my exercise time between the bike and treadmill or alternate by using one the first day and the other the next day. I'd say it is an individual preference. Becky and Cassidy, Pilot Dog, Poodle maddpoodle27@... exercise, > Hi all, Bill, I just read your article on the peddler, never heard of it, > where did you buy it, from a regular store or somewhere else? > Well, I am at a plateu also and I'm rather frustrated. I have a > question. Today I bought a treadmill. it was on an incredible sale and a > floor model so I just took the plunge, waiting for famiy to deliver it. > now, I normally exercisse on an exercise bike every day. When I have > both, what do I do, do both every day, or alternate? I guess I could just > fool around with it but I thought some of you mighthave had experience > with these. > Vicki > " Do not love the world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the > world, you do not have the love of the Father in you. For the world offers > only > a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and > pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, > but they > are from this world. And this world is fading away, along with everything > that people crave. But anyone who does what pleases God will live > forever. " 1 > 2:15 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 I agree Bill. You increase intensity as you feel comfortable with the level you are on. After a while though, you need to push a little harder to move on. Victor xòã Re: exercise, > Victor, > > Your definition of intensity is an interesting one but I would say that > doing intnse exercise is different for each person. In my case I deem I have > done intense exercise when I start dripping sweat, while others will get > consideerably more short of breath and have to really work at breathing. > Some people can handle " rigorous " exercise better than others. For some who > are extremely deconditioned, rigorous exercise would be when you get a > certain " stiffness " or " pain " in the leg or arm from using it more than you > normally do, and that's the point you stop at until you build up your > strength. As time would go on you would push the envelope on what is intense > exercise for you. > > Bill > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Vicki: I have both. I really enjoy the treadmill a lot more. I have to admit that since I got the treadmill i haven't used the bike. They are however, a little different. Just when you get bored from using one change to using the other for a few weeks or so. Victor xòã Re: exercise, > > > > Vicki, > > > > I wouldn't try to exercise on both the treadmill and the exercise bike in > > the same day or at least in the same part of the day, unless and until you > > built up to it. A treadmill is a lot better than an exercise bike and can > > give you all the benefits of the bike and then some but sometimes by using > > a > > treadmill you can overwork some muscles in a zealous attempt to get fit, > > so > > alternating might be a good idea since you now have both. Perhaps you will > > find over time that you're doing better with the treadmill and you can > > dispense with the bike and sell it to someone else when you've outgrown > > it. > > > > As for the Pedaler, I did a Google search and came across a place called > > Drive, who assembles the unit and then ships it out. Oh you can get these > > at > > Walgreen's for about $49, not assembled, but I got mine through Drive for > > about half that, and am very pleased with the unit. Very simple to use, > > just > > take it out of the box, screw on the tension adjuster and you're good to > > go. > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Listen, this seems strane to me, but I have been using the treadmill today, and whe I get on it I get dizzy very quickly, each time. I try to stay on for a bit but end up getting off. Has anyone experienced this? is it somethiing to do with being blind and maybe feeling off balance or something, or needing fluids, or something else? I know you all aren't doctors but you have had many experiences, So if you have any thoughts I'd appreciate them a lot. Vicki " Do not love the world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the world, you do not have the love of the Father in you. For the world offers only a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but they are from this world. And this world is fading away, along with everything that people crave. But anyone who does what pleases God will live forever. " 1 2:15 Re: exercise, > > >> Victor, >> >> Your definition of intensity is an interesting one but I would say that >> doing intnse exercise is different for each person. In my case I deem I > have >> done intense exercise when I start dripping sweat, while others will get >> consideerably more short of breath and have to really work at breathing. >> Some people can handle " rigorous " exercise better than others. For some > who >> are extremely deconditioned, rigorous exercise would be when you get a >> certain " stiffness " or " pain " in the leg or arm from using it more than > you >> normally do, and that's the point you stop at until you build up your >> strength. As time would go on you would push the envelope on what is > intense >> exercise for you. >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Vicki, If you're constantly feeling dizzy and off-balance when trying to use a treadmill, that could be from many factors. Do you get dizzy when you just walk or just when you try to do the treadmill? Do you get short of breath easily? Do you ever feel strange when you change abruptly from a sitting to standing position or from laying to sitting? These are some things you should explore with your doctor to see if more is at work here than just diabetes. One obvious question I have to pose, and I'm not posing it lightly and not to embarrass you, but how much do you weigh? You don't have to tell us, but just understand that if you're morbidly obese, trying to do a treadmill is probably going to take more work than your heart or circulatory system can handle and you would have to start on a much smaller scale, such as walking or using the Pedaler as a first step to exercise. A friend of mine who is probably getting close to 500 pounds has a real problem with shortness of breath and he can barely walk beyond getting from his car to a house or office, so treadmilling would be beyond his reach unless he could reduce that load. Therein lies a double-edged sword because he needs to lose weight and to do that needs to exercise but how to do that when he's so big already? Only he and his doctor can come up with a plan that's right for him. Good luck with your desire to get in better shape through whatever exercise you can do. Bill Powers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 HI Vicki: The same thing happened to me when I started using the Gazelle. Bob thought he would be smart and prove tome that this doesn't happen and nearly fell from being dizzy when he got off of the thing. The key is to take it slowly with the treadmill at first, staying until you become dizzy and then getting off. Gradually, you'll get used to the treadmill and won't be dizzy and will be able to do an entire workout on it. Becky and Cassidy, Pilot Dog, Poodle maddpoodle27@... Re: exercise, >> >> >>> Victor, >>> >>> Your definition of intensity is an interesting one but I would say that >>> doing intnse exercise is different for each person. In my case I deem I >> have >>> done intense exercise when I start dripping sweat, while others will get >>> consideerably more short of breath and have to really work at breathing. >>> Some people can handle " rigorous " exercise better than others. For some >> who >>> are extremely deconditioned, rigorous exercise would be when you get a >>> certain " stiffness " or " pain " in the leg or arm from using it more than >> you >>> normally do, and that's the point you stop at until you build up your >>> strength. As time would go on you would push the envelope on what is >> intense >>> exercise for you. >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Vicki, start at the lowest possible speed until you feel comfortable. If you try to start fast you may get to feel that way. Just start slow and build on it as you go. Victor @?- Re: exercise, > > > > > >> Victor, > >> > >> Your definition of intensity is an interesting one but I would say that > >> doing intnse exercise is different for each person. In my case I deem I > > have > >> done intense exercise when I start dripping sweat, while others will get > >> consideerably more short of breath and have to really work at breathing. > >> Some people can handle " rigorous " exercise better than others. For some > > who > >> are extremely deconditioned, rigorous exercise would be when you get a > >> certain " stiffness " or " pain " in the leg or arm from using it more than > > you > >> normally do, and that's the point you stop at until you build up your > >> strength. As time would go on you would push the envelope on what is > > intense > >> exercise for you. > >> > >> Bill > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Bill, my treadmill starts at .6 miles. that is very very slow. I think if Vicki starts at such speed until she gets used to it then she can move on to more intense exercise over time. XN- Re: exercise, > Vicki, > > If you're constantly feeling dizzy and off-balance when trying to use a > treadmill, that could be from many factors. Do you get dizzy when you just > walk or just when you try to do the treadmill? Do you get short of breath > easily? Do you ever feel strange when you change abruptly from a sitting to > standing position or from laying to sitting? These are some things you > should explore with your doctor to see if more is at work here than just > diabetes. One obvious question I have to pose, and I'm not posing it lightly > and not to embarrass you, but how much do you weigh? You don't have to tell > us, but just understand that if you're morbidly obese, trying to do a > treadmill is probably going to take more work than your heart or circulatory > system can handle and you would have to start on a much smaller scale, such > as walking or using the Pedaler as a first step to exercise. A friend of > mine who is probably getting close to 500 pounds has a real problem with > shortness of breath and he can barely walk beyond getting from his car to a > house or office, so treadmilling would be beyond his reach unless he could > reduce that load. Therein lies a double-edged sword because he needs to lose > weight and to do that needs to exercise but how to do that when he's so big > already? Only he and his doctor can come up with a plan that's right for > him. > > Good luck with your desire to get in better shape through whatever exercise > you can do. > > Bill Powers > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Victor is right, start at the very lowest speed of the treadmill and build up as your comfort level permits. What I am concerned about here is exercising until you feel " dizzy. " That part seems a bit much of a demand for safety reasons. IMHO, I don't think exercising until you feel " dizzy " should be a benchmark, rather, until you reach a level where your breathing is a little difficult, not pushing it until you feel dizzy. If you're getting dizzy you could fall off the machine or trip after getting off, because your orientation is affected. Not only that, doesn't that mean that you've put an extra strain on the heart? Yes, we have to push the envelope in order to get into shape, but some people have cardiac problems where getting to the level of being dizzy could cause problems. Or if you're asthmatic and get to that point you're past being " short of breath " and you feel so bad you don't want to go through that again. These are just my 2 cents worth and should not be taken as gospel. Just go at it very slowly and carefully and don't kill yourself trying to speed up the success rate of your exercise plan. Again, too, it's a good idea to speak with your doctor to let him or her know what your experience with the treadmill is and to see whether it's safe to push it to the " dizzy " level or to go easier. Only you know how much you can handle, but don't try to handle more than you need to, especially in the beginning. There will be plenty of room for a buildup once you get in better shape. Bill Powers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 my Momma has the same problem and she has no high blood pressure. she just doesn't like the fact of walking in place, instead of down the road. she says it is the motion of the belt under her feet moving. kind of like a moving side walk at some air ports. I have no problem my self walking on one and actually prefer it over walking out side sense I am totally blind. but I do know of some blind folks that have the same problem with walking in one place like you do on a tread mill. Re: exercise, >> >> >>> Victor, >>> >>> Your definition of intensity is an interesting one but I would say that >>> doing intnse exercise is different for each person. In my case I deem I >> have >>> done intense exercise when I start dripping sweat, while others will get >>> consideerably more short of breath and have to really work at breathing. >>> Some people can handle " rigorous " exercise better than others. For some >> who >>> are extremely deconditioned, rigorous exercise would be when you get a >>> certain " stiffness " or " pain " in the leg or arm from using it more than >> you >>> normally do, and that's the point you stop at until you build up your >>> strength. As time would go on you would push the envelope on what is >> intense >>> exercise for you. >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Vicky, you might want to tell your doca about this. It could mean a lot of things-including decreased circulation to your heart. Re: exercise, Listen, this seems strane to me, but I have been using the treadmill today, and whe I get on it I get dizzy very quickly, each time. I try to stay on for a bit but end up getting off. Has anyone experienced this? is it somethiing to do with being blind and maybe feeling off balance or something, or needing fluids, or something else? I know you all aren't doctors but you have had many experiences, So if you have any thoughts I'd appreciate them a lot. Vicki " Do not love the world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the world, you do not have the love of the Father in you. For the world offers only a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but they are from this world. And this world is fading away, along with everything that people crave. But anyone who does what pleases God will live forever. " 1 2:15 Re: exercise, > > >> Victor, >> >> Your definition of intensity is an interesting one but I would say that >> doing intnse exercise is different for each person. In my case I deem I > have >> done intense exercise when I start dripping sweat, while others will get >> consideerably more short of breath and have to really work at breathing. >> Some people can handle " rigorous " exercise better than others. For some > who >> are extremely deconditioned, rigorous exercise would be when you get a >> certain " stiffness " or " pain " in the leg or arm from using it more than > you >> normally do, and that's the point you stop at until you build up your >> strength. As time would go on you would push the envelope on what is > intense >> exercise for you. >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 When first using a treadmill, walk slowly at first for the first minute or two. Be sure your automatic treadmill shutdown safety device is attached to your clothing. This insures that should you fall from dizziness, your treadmill will stop moving automatically. Increase the speed of the treadmill incrimentally until you can maintain a heart rate of between 120 and 140 beats per minute. This is the recommended heart rate for walking a treadmill and an effective aerobic workout. Walk at this heart rate for twenty to thirty minutes. At the end of the walk slowly down to decrease your heart rate to below 110 before stopping your walk completely. This usually takes only a minute or two of slow walking to get your heart rate below 110. Never just stop walking entirely when your heart rate is high. This can cause things such as dizziness and even heart attacks. If your heart rate goes above 140 beats per minute, slow down the speed of the treadmill. When I got my treadmill, my wife got on it and started walking at the pace she wanted without reading the recommendations. She has emphasema. About three minutes after she started walking she reported a heart rate to me of 190, and she asked me what I thought about that. I told her it sounded like she was headed for either a heart attack or a stroke, and it would be wise for her to slow down immediately to the recommended heart rate level. When I first started walking on the treadmill, I started walking at a speed of 1 mile per hour and gradually increased the speed of the treadmill over many weeks until after four or five months of walking on the treadmill I was walking at a speed of 3.3 miles per hour. The manual that came with the treadmill told me that once one can maintain their heart rate at between 120-140 beats for twenty to thirty minutes at a speed of between 3.0-3.3 miles per hour, then one is in good to excellent aerobic condition. Also when I first started walking on the treadmill, I walked at 1 mile per hour for only six minutes before I had to rest. It took me about three weeks before I was able to walk for twenty or thirty minutes without resting. Only after I was able to walk thirty minutes without rest did I increase my speed on the treadmill. I hope these parameters help you in achieving good to excellent aerobic conditioning. Happy walking! Re: exercise, > Victor is right, start at the very lowest speed of the treadmill and build > up as your comfort level permits. > > What I am concerned about here is exercising until you feel " dizzy. " That > part seems a bit much of a demand for safety reasons. IMHO, I don't think > exercising until you feel " dizzy " should be a benchmark, rather, until you > reach a level where your breathing is a little difficult, not pushing it > until you feel dizzy. If you're getting dizzy you could fall off the > machine > or trip after getting off, because your orientation is affected. Not only > that, doesn't that mean that you've put an extra strain on the heart? Yes, > we have to push the envelope in order to get into shape, but some people > have cardiac problems where getting to the level of being dizzy could > cause > problems. Or if you're asthmatic and get to that point you're past being > " short of breath " and you feel so bad you don't want to go through that > again. These are just my 2 cents worth and should not be taken as gospel. > Just go at it very slowly and carefully and don't kill yourself trying to > speed up the success rate of your exercise plan. Again, too, it's a good > idea to speak with your doctor to let him or her know what your experience > with the treadmill is and to see whether it's safe to push it to the > " dizzy " > level or to go easier. Only you know how much you can handle, but don't > try > to handle more than you need to, especially in the beginning. There will > be > plenty of room for a buildup once you get in better shape. > > Bill Powers > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Very good info Harry. I knew you'd come through eventually. I've never done my exercising by checking it against heart rate although I should do that. I've just always been used to being able to do very brisk walking for long periods of time, yet walking on a treadmill is different. I walk on average 3-4 miles a day and can do it at a pretty good clip, and I do pretty good now with my Pedaler. I wish sometimes that I had the room for a treadmill but I don't, so I will make do with what I have and build up gradually. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 Additionally, I wonder if Vicky is on BP mes. Some of them can make one dizzy if one stands up to quickly and I wonder if this is afecting walking on the treadmill. Mike > Victor is right, start at the very lowest speed of the treadmill and build > up as your comfort level permits. > > What I am concerned about here is exercising until you feel " dizzy. " That > part seems a bit much of a demand for safety reasons. IMHO, I don't think > exercising until you feel " dizzy " should be a benchmark, rather, until you > reach a level where your breathing is a little difficult, not pushing it > until you feel dizzy. If you're getting dizzy you could fall off the machine > or trip after getting off, because your orientation is affected. Not only > that, doesn't that mean that you've put an extra strain on the heart? Yes, > we have to push the envelope in order to get into shape, but some people > have cardiac problems where getting to the level of being dizzy could cause > problems. Or if you're asthmatic and get to that point you're past being > " short of breath " and you feel so bad you don't want to go through that > again. These are just my 2 cents worth and should not be taken as gospel. > Just go at it very slowly and carefully and don't kill yourself trying to > speed up the success rate of your exercise plan. Again, too, it's a good > idea to speak with your doctor to let him or her know what your experience > with the treadmill is and to see whether it's safe to push it to the " dizzy " > level or to go easier. Only you know how much you can handle, but don't try > to handle more than you need to, especially in the beginning. There will be > plenty of room for a buildup once you get in better shape. > > Bill Powers > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 Also, I realize that directions all tell you not to hang onto the bar as one can sometimes use this to take support off the legs so one doesn't get the benefit one ought from the treadmill. But I'd recommend holding the bar lightly to give yourself a point of reference. This will keep you from getting the heebie-jeebies because you're walking without going anywhere. Mike > HI all, I so much appreciate your suggestions. Just to give you a little > bvackground, I am not skinny but I am not very large to a danger point as > some have the unfortunate predicament of being. I have lost about 75 pounds > since being diagnosed last summer. I have been using the bike and getting > most of the time a really good work out, heart rate increased though I don't > know how much, so I think I'm in good health. My A1c in december was 4.5. > So this here, well I am gong to try the suggestion of not going above the > lowest spe3ee. Yesterday I was going not really fast but maybe medium-fast. > I bought a floor model cheap and there are no directions or anything, so the > suggestions about avoiding stroke and heart attack were crucial for me, I > had not idea you don't just stop and jump off. I'll give it a try today and > see what happens, and I am used to walking miles outside when I can and am > totally blind, so it all seems to be just this one machine. Thanks so much > everyone, and happy easter. > VIcki > " Do not love the world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the > world, you do not have the love of the Father in you. For the world offers > only > a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride > in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but they > are from this world. And this world is fading away, along with everything > that people crave. But anyone who does what pleases God will live forever. " > 1 > 2:15 > > Re: exercise, >> >> >>> Victor is right, start at the very lowest speed of the treadmill and >>> build >>> up as your comfort level permits. >>> >>> What I am concerned about here is exercising until you feel " dizzy. " That >>> part seems a bit much of a demand for safety reasons. IMHO, I don't think >>> exercising until you feel " dizzy " should be a benchmark, rather, until >>> you >>> reach a level where your breathing is a little difficult, not pushing it >>> until you feel dizzy. If you're getting dizzy you could fall off the >>> machine >>> or trip after getting off, because your orientation is affected. Not only >>> that, doesn't that mean that you've put an extra strain on the heart? >>> Yes, >>> we have to push the envelope in order to get into shape, but some people >>> have cardiac problems where getting to the level of being dizzy could >>> cause >>> problems. Or if you're asthmatic and get to that point you're past being >>> " short of breath " and you feel so bad you don't want to go through that >>> again. These are just my 2 cents worth and should not be taken as gospel. >>> Just go at it very slowly and carefully and don't kill yourself trying to >>> speed up the success rate of your exercise plan. Again, too, it's a good >>> idea to speak with your doctor to let him or her know what your >>> experience >>> with the treadmill is and to see whether it's safe to push it to the >>> " dizzy " >>> level or to go easier. Only you know how much you can handle, but don't >>> try >>> to handle more than you need to, especially in the beginning. There will >>> be >>> plenty of room for a buildup once you get in better shape. >>> >>> Bill Powers >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 Since I only have light perception, I hold on continuously to a side bar, which I have built up an inch or so because of my height, to keep me from having to bend over when I walk. Otherwise the treadmill would be shutting off, not moving at all, because this is the only way I can judge my stride to keep from falling off the back of the treadmill. Re: exercise, >>> >>> >>>> Victor is right, start at the very lowest speed of the treadmill and >>>> build >>>> up as your comfort level permits. >>>> >>>> What I am concerned about here is exercising until you feel " dizzy. " >>>> That >>>> part seems a bit much of a demand for safety reasons. IMHO, I don't >>>> think >>>> exercising until you feel " dizzy " should be a benchmark, rather, until >>>> you >>>> reach a level where your breathing is a little difficult, not pushing >>>> it >>>> until you feel dizzy. If you're getting dizzy you could fall off the >>>> machine >>>> or trip after getting off, because your orientation is affected. Not >>>> only >>>> that, doesn't that mean that you've put an extra strain on the heart? >>>> Yes, >>>> we have to push the envelope in order to get into shape, but some >>>> people >>>> have cardiac problems where getting to the level of being dizzy could >>>> cause >>>> problems. Or if you're asthmatic and get to that point you're past >>>> being >>>> " short of breath " and you feel so bad you don't want to go through that >>>> again. These are just my 2 cents worth and should not be taken as >>>> gospel. >>>> Just go at it very slowly and carefully and don't kill yourself trying >>>> to >>>> speed up the success rate of your exercise plan. Again, too, it's a >>>> good >>>> idea to speak with your doctor to let him or her know what your >>>> experience >>>> with the treadmill is and to see whether it's safe to push it to the >>>> " dizzy " >>>> level or to go easier. Only you know how much you can handle, but don't >>>> try >>>> to handle more than you need to, especially in the beginning. There >>>> will >>>> be >>>> plenty of room for a buildup once you get in better shape. >>>> >>>> Bill Powers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 Hi folks, today I got n the treadmill and rode it as slow as it goes and just stayed on there a few minutes. I had not problem at all, so I think I'm just gong to cautiously work up in speed, and rely more heavily on my exercise bike until I can do it well enough to depend on it. No, I'm not taking any medicatioon. Thanks again. Vicki " Do not love the world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the world, you do not have the love of the Father in you. For the world offers only a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but they are from this world. And this world is fading away, along with everything that people crave. But anyone who does what pleases God will live forever. " 1 2:15 Re: exercise, > Additionally, I wonder if Vicky is on BP mes. Some of them can make one > dizzy if one stands up to quickly and I wonder if this is afecting > walking on the treadmill. > > Mike > > > >> Victor is right, start at the very lowest speed of the treadmill and >> build >> up as your comfort level permits. >> >> What I am concerned about here is exercising until you feel " dizzy. " That >> part seems a bit much of a demand for safety reasons. IMHO, I don't think >> exercising until you feel " dizzy " should be a benchmark, rather, until >> you >> reach a level where your breathing is a little difficult, not pushing it >> until you feel dizzy. If you're getting dizzy you could fall off the >> machine >> or trip after getting off, because your orientation is affected. Not only >> that, doesn't that mean that you've put an extra strain on the heart? >> Yes, >> we have to push the envelope in order to get into shape, but some people >> have cardiac problems where getting to the level of being dizzy could >> cause >> problems. Or if you're asthmatic and get to that point you're past being >> " short of breath " and you feel so bad you don't want to go through that >> again. These are just my 2 cents worth and should not be taken as gospel. >> Just go at it very slowly and carefully and don't kill yourself trying to >> speed up the success rate of your exercise plan. Again, too, it's a good >> idea to speak with your doctor to let him or her know what your >> experience >> with the treadmill is and to see whether it's safe to push it to the >> " dizzy " >> level or to go easier. Only you know how much you can handle, but don't >> try >> to handle more than you need to, especially in the beginning. There will >> be >> plenty of room for a buildup once you get in better shape. >> >> Bill Powers >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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