Re: 911:: Chicago PD problems

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/1/02 7:23:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

scott@... writes:

> Chicago Police Superintendent Terry Hillard ordered most of the police

> department's computers temporarily unplugged from the Internet after

> downloaded child pornography was found in two of the department's 3,200

> computers.

>

Oops!! What happened here? Dont you just hate when fellow employees do

stupid things? I hope they find the person and take care of it.. this is

unacceptable! I hope that all you GOOD folks in Chicago dont get affected

by this..

Toni Wyman, (CTO and Tactical Dispatcher)

Gwinnett County Police, GA (just N of HotLanta)

Lawrenceville, GA

(These are only my opinions, not my agency's, after all they are the

government and they have opinions of their own)

For liability reasons my posts and opinions are to be reprinted with my

permission only.

Email to: E911GAL136@...

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/1/02 , it was said:

> That's not right..... :-|

>

I agree with the statement " its their computer and they have the right "

......and just remember... delete doesnt always mean " delete " ........

Toni Wyman, (CTO and Tactical Dispatcher)

Gwinnett County Police, GA (just N of HotLanta)

Lawrenceville, GA

(These are only my opinions, not my agency's, after all they are the

government and they have opinions of their own)

For liability reasons my posts and opinions are to be reprinted with my

permission only.

Email to: E911GAL136@...

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/1/02 , it was said:

> That's not right..... :-|

>

I agree with the statement " its their computer and they have the right "

......and just remember... delete doesnt always mean " delete " ........

Toni Wyman, (CTO and Tactical Dispatcher)

Gwinnett County Police, GA (just N of HotLanta)

Lawrenceville, GA

(These are only my opinions, not my agency's, after all they are the

government and they have opinions of their own)

For liability reasons my posts and opinions are to be reprinted with my

permission only.

Email to: E911GAL136@...

[Guest guest]

All our internet activity is tracked. They can see whatever you do on the

internet.. If you would check your bank account info on line...they can see

your password.

There is nothing they can not see when you are on line at the PD.

Jim

Columbus Police

Columbus Ohio

[Guest guest]

> All our internet activity is tracked. They can see whatever you do on

> the internet.. If you would check your bank account info on

> line...they can see your password.

>

> There is nothing they can not see when you are on line at the PD.

As with most commercial networks, ours too has packet sniffers and

such. In addition, the Sunshine Law allows for the public to request

copies of all email if they so desire. Which of course is why I

choose not to have an account on our network. In the old days before

the network was in place, we just made a raw DUN connection into our

personal Internet accounts and could pretty much do as we pleased.

After the network went online, myself and some co-workers used PGP

for mail encryption to have some degree of privacy. We don't even do

that anymore since they can log keystrokes or take screen shots if

they so desire.

The best solution was the one that I chose. Simply don't use it.

Bill

[Guest guest]

> Same at my agency. Policies are in place and they can track all

> visited websites. I'm not sure about the password thing though?

> That's not right..... :-|

Sure it's right. It's their network, their computer, their access.

They have every right to have the ability to monitor it's use.

[Guest guest]

> No unrecorded lines at all.....Not even a pay phone.........

Which is why a good many of us at work carry a cell phone. I wouldn't

be without one.

[Guest guest]

This is scary because I remember I was surfing a music

site at work one day and clicked on a button that

promised more info on . I didn't really

like , but she was in the news at that

time because of her then-boyfriend Puffy Combs.

Well, THAT link took me to a pornography site. Now on

my 19 " screen in technicolor was a most embarrassing

picture. Luckily, I was by myself dispatching but

anyone could walk through. I quickly clicked the

window close button....and ANOTHER porn picture popped

up! So after pressing the close button and being

redirected a few times, I just turned my monitor off!

Right then, one of the detectives called...the one

that investigated computer crimes. Kinda

serendipitous that he called and I told him what was

going on. He started laughing and told me that I was

caught in a " ring " and everytime I would close one

window, another one would pop up. " Okay...so how do I

get rid of it? " " You have to reboot your computer " .

So I did. Ever since, I have been extremely wary

about what buttons I click on at work and what email

links I open.

I didn't mean to, and I would be extremely upset if I

got disciplined for an accident if my internet usage

was being monitored. Now I could understand if I made

a habit of it, but to be dinged for an accident like

that....

It scares me that this link could have taken me to a

child porn site. To me that is the MOST despicable

thing ever thought up by human beings.

annette hallmark

--- E911gal136@... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/1/02 7:23:08 PM Eastern

> Daylight Time,

> scott@... writes:

>

>

> > Chicago Police Superintendent Terry Hillard

> ordered most of the police

> > department's computers temporarily unplugged from

> the Internet after

> > downloaded child pornography was found in two of

> the department's 3,200

> > computers.

> >

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[Guest guest]

You also have to watch it if you use your personal

email for work related communications. If you are

named in a suit, a defense attorney *can* subpoena ALL

of your personal email records, if they can show that

you communicated even ONE time work related materials

using your personal email address.

Vise-versa...watch what personal email you send over

your work email account. Those are easily reviewed

and subpoenaed by anyone showing a need. Also, your

network administrator CAN review your

emails....despite their assertions that they CAN'T.

DON'T BE FOOLED.

Also, watch those group email addresses. I burned

myself one time when I accidentally sent a Console

reply to my dispatch group list. It WASN'T flattering

to my director. THAT was when I found out that all

emails sent to the dispatch group address was also

sent to my boss. Talk about being embarassed. That

was when I changed my Console address from my work

email address to my personal email address.

annette hallmark

--- vickie wrote:

> It is the same here in SC also. The powers that be

> in Columbia can also

> monitor the radios and telephones by just entering

> into the " new " recording

> system that was installed at the new communications

> center.

>

>

> NOTHING is private this includes the pc's, phones,

> radios, NOTHING!!!!!

>

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annette wrote: <<< Right then, one of the detectives called...the one that

investigated computer crimes. Kinda serendipitous that he called and I told

him what was going on. He started laughing and told me that I was caught in

a " ring " and everytime I would close one window, another one would pop up.

" Okay...so how do I get rid of it? " " You have to reboot your computer " .

>>>

annette and all, if you ever find yourself caught in that kind of ring or

loop and you're using internet explorer (v 5.x or later) there is an easier

way to break free. just as soon as the new window makes an appearance do a

CNTL-W (press the CNTL key and then the W key). that will promptly close

the new window and break the cycle.

rich