Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 My favorite thing is EMT's who request their onscene time, and yet never bothered to air they were onscene or hit their MDT button. My usual reply (if by cell phone, which is usually how they ask) is, " Are you onscene now? How long have you been there for? Do the math. " We can only be responsible for ourselves, and can't change the world. is right, If they wont do their basic bits, we can't be held accountable for their failures. I will say this though, the real buzzword is and will always be officer safety. You start tossing that around and people start listening just a touch more. Remember, we dont really care where they are or what they're doing. But when they're in trouble, they're going to really wish we knew where to send help. Its like that classic call we all get to Send Police to an unknown address for an unknown problem, but please hurry. Unless we know that there is a problem and where that problem is, we can't do anything to help, be it a civilian or someone wearing a badge. Mike wrote: > >(see posts about dumb > officers who don't call anything including traffic stops).< > > Do not beat yourself up over this. > > It is the officers decision... It is their responsibility... > > You have absolutely no control over how officers do their job. > > Your responsibility is to do YOUR job as professionally as > you can... It is not your responsibility to see that the officers > do theirs... That's up to them... > > I understand your concern, but it is out of your control. > > Weintraut > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 >the real buzzword is and will always be officer safety. You are correct. But the number 1 person responsible for officer safety, and the ONLY person who can really have much control over it, is the officer. We must do our part, obtain the best information we can, broadcast it clearly, timely and accurately. See that the proper response is dispatched... The rest is up to them. Weintraut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 --- wrote: > >(see posts about dumb officers who don't call anything > >including traffic stops). > > Do not beat yourself up over this. Oh, I'm not beating MYSELF up over it. I do, however, take chunks out of the officers' hides when they do something especially stupid and I can get away with it. Working with three tonight that I'm getting along with fairly well. The patrol sgt is hanging out with the officer who calls nothing over. The sgt isn't the best about calling in, but he's a lot better than the officer. I've actually got a decent set of times for the two of them. The third either has a crush on me or just likes me a lot. Either way, he straightens out very quickly when I ask him to. Also working with a dispatcher whose work style fits well with mine. In short, it's looking to be a very enjoyable shift and a good way to end my week. I just finished working a heinous schedule that involved having two days off out of the past 14 (no, not two days in a row). Now I've got three days off and I'm heading for the hills! Yay! Angie __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 In a message dated 7/25/02 5:36:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mountain@... writes: > > My favorite thing is EMT's who request their onscene time, and yet never > I don't forge to call in when I get to a scene but I do forget or get caught up in the scene and forget to write down the times and have to call dispatch and get the times. I try not to do have to but it's a common things among all us EMT's. We just get caught up. What I hate doing is when I ask for directions and think I know where is and realize I don't or have to ask more than once for directions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 In a message dated 7/28/02 6:03:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mountain@... writes: > Getting caught up in a call is something we all do onscene. But my point > was, if > you don't tell dispatch you were there in the first place, you can't expect > them > to give you the time you showed up > > Mike > I learned very early on how important it is to let dispatch know where you are at all time. We had crashed the ambulance on my 5th call. We had not gotten to the pt. yet. The driver called one time and said we had crashed and had one injury(me) to send help. Dispatch knew where we were going and had help there for us in minutes. I don't forget to let dispatch know where I am. Tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 >but I do forget or get caught up in the scene and forget to write down the times and have to call dispatch and get the times. I try not to do have to but it's a common things among all us EMT's. We just get caught up. < That's true, and I certainly understand it... however.... There are a couple of problems with it. When you " get caught up " and forget to write your times down, you cause other people more work.... sometimes when they are very busy themselves... doing other important work.... And.... your taking a very important part of your job (keeping times for court etc..) and trusting that someone else will do it for you, and do it properly... As Dispatchers... sometimes we also get very busy, and " get caught up " and it mighty take a while for the times get recorded... And it has happened that they didn't get recorded at all.... It takes a second to jot down " arrived 1742 " .... and doing that saves you from having to ask.. saves the dispatcher from having to look it up.. and frees both of you to take care of other business. I know.... I'm an old grouch.... but I've never understood why anyone would not want to " keep their own times " ... it can be pretty important. Weintraut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 >Of course every agency works differently, but I would never expect my fire or EMS units to record their own times when I can do it in about 1-2 seconds. If all else fails, the Dictaphone has the transmission and date/time of it recorded.< You're correct... and I wasn't very clear. Many agencies work differently, for instance, many still don't have a CAD where a keystroke automatically puts in a time. The dispatcher must jot it down.. and when he/she has time, add it to whatever type of log they keep. And many agencies are " one dispatcher " agencies, taking care of many units...phones, walk-ins and tons of other duties. All of the units being served by this " one dispatcher " center are needing " times " ... In these types of systems, it just seems to make more sense for the responding units to be responsible for keeping their own times. Weintraut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 In a message dated 7/29/02 10:30:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, rweintraut@... writes: > I know.... I'm an old grouch.... but I've never understood why anyone > would not want to " keep their own times " ... it can be pretty important. > > I wouldn't say your and old grouch. And I honestly do try. I do thank the dispatchers every time I call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 >The only thing I hate is when they call for times and we are slammed. They don't want to call back later. Alot of the agencies >forget they aren't the only one we're working with. *********************************************************** One of my " favorites " is the ones that call on the phone in the midst of said slamming, " Yeah gimme my times to that (whatever) I had to call the phone the radio is too busy. " Well, duh! Iowa State Patrol Communications, Cedar Rapids Werling NØXZY scott@... http://www.ia.net/~anachamb/pumpkin.html http://www.jonescountytourism.com http://www.earthsat.com/wx/dotwx/winter_roads.html I have a new address for my Olympic photos. http://www.photoisland.com Login: ridgeroader password: blah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 >I know.... I'm an old grouch.... but I've never understood why anyone would not want to " keep their own times " ... it can be pretty important. >Weintraut ********************************************************************************\ ** Because it's easier for radio to do it. I'm way too busy for record keeping. Iowa State Patrol Communications, Cedar Rapids Werling NØXZY scott@... http://www.ia.net/~anachamb/pumpkin.html http://www.jonescountytourism.com http://www.earthsat.com/wx/dotwx/winter_roads.html I have a new address for my Olympic photos. http://www.photoisland.com Login: ridgeroader password: blah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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