Re: I need some help -- PLEASE! (long)

[Guest guest]

Don't be mean then... just say that you realize that weather or not your son

gets better obviously is not important to her. Since it is obvously

important to you then you need to find someone else. DO IT

NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then send me her address because she's not friends with me so I don't give a

rats ass and I'll kick her into next week.

G

who thinks you are fabulous and she's a total bitch

[Guest guest]

OK,

There are two ways you could go here.

Chicken's way (or something I would do):

Lie. Tell her that you are no longer getting the money for the therapy and

you can't possibly afford her services. She's been great, but until you

start getting the money again, you'll have to let her go for a while.

Other way--lay it all out and give her the choice. In other words, make her

dig her own grave.

Give her a list of how she has helped lately and how she is NOT helping

. Just write down how all of the schedule changes affects and how

taking him grocery shopping with her doesn't help. Then give her a list of

what you expect from her and tell her she is on probation. If she can't

meet the list, then she must be let go. This gives her the illusion of

having power when she really doesn't have any. That way, if you have to

fire her, it is HER fault, and doesn't have anything to do with you being a

bad person (which you are NOT!)

My opinion? She should have been fired long ago. You know that though. Do

you want me to do it? LOL. I hate confrontation too, but this is your son.

Just remember that. You wanting her to like you is nothing compared to

how she is messing with 's head. If she has all of this experience with

autistic kids then she should no better than to cancel at the last minute.

ly, she sucks and she needs a wake-up call. Does she really think that

employers are looking for someone who is completely irresponsible and can't

follow directions? Really, Jacquie, you know what you have to do. Just

rehearse what you want to say over and over in your head and then just get

it over with. Or better yet, make Marc do it. Would he? I know you said

she's a friend of his friend's but that may make it harder for her to

complain if he does it. I don't know. Just thinking out loud now.

Just do it babe. We all want to be liked, loved but you have all of us for

that. Not much when we can't even come over for coffee, but at least we're

not screwing with your son's life and yours.

There, that's the best that I can do.

Amy H--in Michigan

Kepler 4 1/2 ASD and Bethany 6 NT

" Harmony breeds ignorance. It is the dissonant chords of life that lead us

to wisdom. " ~me

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[Guest guest]

Jacquie,

I sympathize! I really do. We had a therapist for Alec who I

really loved. He was great with the boys. But he was late and missing

shifts and I was required to have him make them up on weekends even

though it wasnt my fault. I had to fire him. UGH! It was terrible. I

didnt want to do it. I was kinda hoping he would just decide on his

own to leave but it didnt happen. So as for Kara here goes. She is

disruptive to your home! Especially who needs to know when to

expect her and when not to. She is totally unreliable and although

she says she will make the time up I have yet to hear about these

make up shifts! really does not need her anymore. She is a waste

of his time. He would be much better off with your friend and her

child getting real peer play and time. Your friend is more than

likely much more reliable! She takes him on trips that have nothing

to do with his further development! She calls late to let you know

she will not be there for some lame reason! If you owned a store and

she worked there she would have had to be fired months ago and

rightfully so! You do not need this stress in your life!

Jacquie H

> Okay.

>

> I have finally reached the point where *I* can't take any more of

Kara's CRAP. I know you all reached that point long ago, but it took

me until today.

>

> Remember I couldn't say anything last week because she started

telling me about her dad needing a bypass? Well, she also told me

the bypass might be this week, so this week's schedule she'd have to

let me know about. I was ok with that - if her dad was having heart

surgery, OF COURSE I wouldn't expect her to be here!

>

> She left a message on my phone at 11am today. She can't come

today, because...

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> SHE AND HER BOYFRIEND ARE GOING TO NIAGARA FALLS FOR A COUPLE

DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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> Imagine a 30 year old fatty in her pajamas, hitting the wall,

jumping up and down, and screaming " BIIIIIIIIIIITCH!!!!!!!! " at the

top of her lungs.

>

> NOW I am angry. Now I am crying angry. You know the kind of angry

I mean.

>

> So I called my mom and calmed down, and after a long talk it

suddenly dawned on me why it's so hard for me to fire her -- and THIS

is what I need your help with.

>

> I am loathe to fire her because I'm insecure, basically. Or

lonely. Take your pick. She is a girl about my age, in town, who is

nice to me. I don't want to make her angry at me because I'm afraid

that is one less person my age in town who will be nice to me.

>

> Yes, this is unreasonable and a bad reason, but it is overwhelming

nonetheless. Not to mention that she is friends with one of Marc's

best friend and his wife, and I've not wanted to start any infighting.

>

> This is where you guys come in.

>

> I need you to blast me with all the reasons to do this. Yell at

me. Tell me that wanting someone to be nice to me is absolutely no

reason to let her walk all over me and my son. Point out how

unreliable she is. Point out how we'd be better off with noone at

all. Point out how we'd be better off to give the money to my friend

Vicki for just having him over and playing iwth her five-year-old.

>

> I know this seems redundant. AFter all, I KNOW the reasons to fire

her. I've written them to you time and time again. But it's this

overwhelming fear of confrontation, and this desire to have people

like me, and this desire to have HER like me, that have kept me from

doing it for so long. But it NEEDS DOING. I'm just terrified I

don't have the ability to do it.

>

> She has taken advantage of me for so many months now, I don't know

how to make it stop. I don't know how to go from not making a peep

to just firing her ass.

>

> How do I DO that??????? And how do I do it without crying in front

ofh her? How do I do it without letting her intimidate me or make me

feel guilty?

>

> I am angry, but I'm scared, too. Scared of a lot of things. I

just need to do this, and I'm counting on you guys to slap some sense

into me. Be brutal if you have to. PLEASE.

>

> Jacquie

[Guest guest]

Jacquie she has used use a a rug to wipe her feet on for a way long time now.

You don't deserve this and more importantly eric doesn't either. I see your

points about why you haven't fired her yet and I am just like that too but I do

yet to the point where enough is enough and it sounds like you have gotten to

this point with Kara. It is about time I may add. This needs to be about

more than you (you said to be brutal). He needs consistency fromthe people that

are in his life. Kara is not giving this to him. If she isn't giving this to

him, she is doing more harm than good for him.. As his mother it is your duty

to step in when your son can not do it for himself. It is time to let Kara go

for your piece of mind and for 's. If need be send her a certified letter

stating the reasons you no longer need her services (or lack there of). Leave a

message on HER machine telling her that you no longer need her. Do it face to

face if you want but just do it! Kara isn't nice to her because she likes you

(again you told us to be brutal) she does it because you are essentially a free

paycheck for her when she wants it. She uses you and by that she is using .

She can' use you unless you let her and you have been letting her for a long

time now. Reclaim yourself Jacquie you do not need to be at whim for Kara.

So fire the girl would ya! Get it done and over with! GO JACQUIE GO!

CHRIS

I need some help -- PLEASE! (long)

Okay.

I have finally reached the point where *I* can't take any more of Kara's CRAP.

I know you all reached that point long ago, but it took me until today.

Remember I couldn't say anything last week because she started telling me

about her dad needing a bypass? Well, she also told me the bypass might be this

week, so this week's schedule she'd have to let me know about. I was ok with

that - if her dad was having heart surgery, OF COURSE I wouldn't expect her to

be here!

She left a message on my phone at 11am today. She can't come today,

because...

wait for this one...

SHE AND HER BOYFRIEND ARE GOING TO NIAGARA FALLS FOR A COUPLE

DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Imagine a 30 year old fatty in her pajamas, hitting the wall, jumping up and

down, and screaming " BIIIIIIIIIIITCH!!!!!!!! " at the top of her lungs.

NOW I am angry. Now I am crying angry. You know the kind of angry I mean.

So I called my mom and calmed down, and after a long talk it suddenly dawned

on me why it's so hard for me to fire her -- and THIS is what I need your help

with.

I am loathe to fire her because I'm insecure, basically. Or lonely. Take

your pick. She is a girl about my age, in town, who is nice to me. I don't

want to make her angry at me because I'm afraid that is one less person my age

in town who will be nice to me.

Yes, this is unreasonable and a bad reason, but it is overwhelming

nonetheless. Not to mention that she is friends with one of Marc's best friend

and his wife, and I've not wanted to start any infighting.

This is where you guys come in.

I need you to blast me with all the reasons to do this. Yell at me. Tell me

that wanting someone to be nice to me is absolutely no reason to let her walk

all over me and my son. Point out how unreliable she is. Point out how we'd be

better off with noone at all. Point out how we'd be better off to give the

money to my friend Vicki for just having him over and playing iwth her

five-year-old.

I know this seems redundant. AFter all, I KNOW the reasons to fire her. I've

written them to you time and time again. But it's this overwhelming fear of

confrontation, and this desire to have people like me, and this desire to have

HER like me, that have kept me from doing it for so long. But it NEEDS DOING.

I'm just terrified I don't have the ability to do it.

She has taken advantage of me for so many months now, I don't know how to make

it stop. I don't know how to go from not making a peep to just firing her ass.

How do I DO that??????? And how do I do it without crying in front ofh her?

How do I do it without letting her intimidate me or make me feel guilty?

I am angry, but I'm scared, too. Scared of a lot of things. I just need to

do this, and I'm counting on you guys to slap some sense into me. Be brutal if

you have to. PLEASE.

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

OK, this 36-yr-old fatty is jumping up and down saying

" fire her ass!!!!! " . I understand why you're

hesitant. I know the feeling of " if I complain, they

won't like me. " Well guess what, people like that not

only don't like you, they don't even think about you.

If she cared anything for you would she treat you

like this? Would she so casually throw you aside if

she really were your friend? Would she use 's

instructional time to do her errands if she really

cared about him? NO! She is taking advantage of your

good nature. You have been giving her the benefit of

the doubt and she's been walking all over you. And

don't worry about what other people think. I know what

small towns are like. For every person who thinks you

were wrong to fire her, there will be one who thinks

you were right. And hundreds who don't care either

way.

Now, it might be easier to fire her if you write it

all down in a letter. Talking to her about this will

probably make you cry (it would make me cry) and you

don't need to feel humiliated on top of everything

else. Just say something like " We no longer need you

services. In this envelope is your last paycheck and

a detailed explanation. " Then hand her the envelope

and say goodbye. Don't scream. don't cry. Smile

sweetly. If she tells you about her dad or her

boyfriend or her sick poodle, tell her you wish them

the best. Then say " Bye bye, take care " and watch her

leave.

Take a deep breath. Be strong. You can do this. You

deserve better.

Tuna

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own, he has attained the highest state of spiritual union.

-Bhagavad Gita 6:32

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--

Jacquie,

As far as the ranting and raving, Ive been there. I can understand

how immensely frustrating it is to have someone who is providing you

with respite to cancel on you. It sounds like she knows that you

really respect her ability with your son and she seems to be feeling

very free about what she does. I hate to come out and say " taking

advantage " because I dont know her. I think, though, she seems to be

irresponsible and more focused on her own needs, therefore,

unprofessional. If you feel thatshes not doing a good job, you could

fire her very tactfully. You could explain that you need someone who

is able to be more available. Perhaps tell her you realize she has

other stuff going on in her life that seems to make it difficult for

her to do her job. I had a similar situation with a former therapist,

who, once she got into a relationship, was less efficient. If you

have another person who you can use, then you have an advantage. It

sounds like she does a great job with your , however, he will

eventually have to let go of her.

You could explain to her that you wish to keep her in your life as a

consultant or friend, just that you need a more regular person. You

are worried about her anger, but, its making you upset. If your like

me, you might just end up exploding on her when you cant keep it in

any longer. This you want to avoid.

You could also keep her, and explain to her the things youre upset

about and can you two work together. I can understand a trip with a

boyfriend, but, she needs to give you more notice so you can get

someone else. If she doesnt change her behavior than shes just not

going to work out.

Its just really hard to get a good all around person. Im not sure I

can offer and more advice than this.

Thea

- In parenting_autism@y..., " The Hunny Family " <vhunnius@l...> wrote:

> Okay.

>

> I have finally reached the point where *I* can't take any more of

Kara's CRAP. I know you all reached that point long ago, but it took

me until today.

>

> Remember I couldn't say anything last week because she started

telling me about her dad needing a bypass? Well, she also told me

the bypass might be this week, so this week's schedule she'd have to

let me know about. I was ok with that - if her dad was having heart

surgery, OF COURSE I wouldn't expect her to be here!

>

> She left a message on my phone at 11am today. She can't come

today, because...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

> wait for this one...

>

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>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

> SHE AND HER BOYFRIEND ARE GOING TO NIAGARA FALLS FOR A COUPLE

DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

>

>

> Imagine a 30 year old fatty in her pajamas, hitting the wall,

jumping up and down, and screaming " BIIIIIIIIIIITCH!!!!!!!! " at the

top of her lungs.

>

> NOW I am angry. Now I am crying angry. You know the kind of angry

I mean.

>

> So I called my mom and calmed down, and after a long talk it

suddenly dawned on me why it's so hard for me to fire her -- and THIS

is what I need your help with.

>

> I am loathe to fire her because I'm insecure, basically. Or

lonely. Take your pick. She is a girl about my age, in town, who is

nice to me. I don't want to make her angry at me because I'm afraid

that is one less person my age in town who will be nice to me.

>

> Yes, this is unreasonable and a bad reason, but it is overwhelming

nonetheless. Not to mention that she is friends with one of Marc's

best friend and his wife, and I've not wanted to start any infighting.

>

> This is where you guys come in.

>

> I need you to blast me with all the reasons to do this. Yell at

me. Tell me that wanting someone to be nice to me is absolutely no

reason to let her walk all over me and my son. Point out how

unreliable she is. Point out how we'd be better off with noone at

all. Point out how we'd be better off to give the money to my friend

Vicki for just having him over and playing iwth her five-year-old.

>

> I know this seems redundant. AFter all, I KNOW the reasons to fire

her. I've written them to you time and time again. But it's this

overwhelming fear of confrontation, and this desire to have people

like me, and this desire to have HER like me, that have kept me from

doing it for so long. But it NEEDS DOING. I'm just terrified I

don't have the ability to do it.

>

> She has taken advantage of me for so many months now, I don't know

how to make it stop. I don't know how to go from not making a peep

to just firing her ass.

>

> How do I DO that??????? And how do I do it without crying in front

ofh her? How do I do it without letting her intimidate me or make me

feel guilty?

>

> I am angry, but I'm scared, too. Scared of a lot of things. I

just need to do this, and I'm counting on you guys to slap some sense

into me. Be brutal if you have to. PLEASE.

>

> Jacquie

[Guest guest]

> Okay.

>

> I have finally reached the point where *I* can't take any more of

Kara's CRAP. I know you all reached that point long ago, but it took

me until today.

Ok, if you're that scared (and hey, I threw up before and after the

first time I fired someone)

Be as bad to her as she was to you.

Call her house while she's gone and leave a message

" Hi Kara - This is Jacquie. I hope you're having fun on your trip,

don't worry, take all the time you need. Don't worry about us. I

won't be needing your services anymore. I'm going to find a new (what

is her title??) who can work a full schedule with . Thanks for

all your help and support in the past. Buh buh :0

there - done finished etc. and then if/when she calls you back just

be blunt. You can't live your life around her schedule. You have to

do it around s - period.

Kerri

GOOD LUCK.

[Guest guest]

> Would she use 's

> instructional time to do her errands if she really

> cared about him? NO! She is taking advantage of your

> good nature. You have been giving her the benefit of

> the doubt and she's been walking all over you.>>

This is true, Jacquie...take it from a fellow door mat, she's using

you. Bad. And she's not helping .

> Now, it might be easier to fire her if you write it

> all down in a letter.>>

This was going to be my suggestion as well...(we think alike, Tuna).

If you honestly think you can't face her and say what you need to,

write it all down when you are calm and can think it through. It

serves the additional purpose of giving you documentation that you

can take to her (or whoever) if the departure becomes ugly for any

reason...and if you have in writing dates she has taken shopping

or to run errands for " therapy " , dates she has called at the last

minute and cancelled, dates she has told you one thing and done

another...she can't really complain about it. She may not realize

how often she is abusing your trust, or may not realize that you are

keeping track of it.

Having said all that, a confession: I once had a young woman working

for me who was not doing her job at all....I kept thinking it wasn't

that bad, would get better...but she did less actual work each time,

and came later and later, to the extent that I was missing

appointments because she didn't show. I didn't want to confront her

because she was my friend's daughter. One day, I came home to find

her playing the piano with my daughters... nowhere in sight. I

found him locked in the laundry room, chewing away on the cardboard

strip I had torn off a detergent box. Now, I don't think she locked

him in there, but she sure as heck didn't have a clue where he was or

what he was doing. Later, my older kids told me that she had spent

almost the entire time I was gone on the phone! Guess who never came

back to my house to work? I didn't fire her...just never " needed "

her again. Wimp, I know...but at least I didn't let her come back.

If you can't bring yourself to fire her, just stop needing her

services...let her go away. And call the bank or whoever to close

out that account she gets paid out of...

Good luck...it truly is time to let her go.

Raena

[Guest guest]

>>>Call her house while she's gone and leave a message

" Hi Kara - This is Jacquie. I hope you're having fun

on your trip, don't worry, take all the time you need.

Don't worry about us. I won't be needing your services

anymore. I'm going to find a new (what is her title??)

who can work a full schedule with . Thanks for all

your help and support in the past. Buh buh "

Kerri<<<<

Oh, that's good, very good. Who was who said Kerri

was always right?

Tuna

=====

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own, he has attained the highest state of spiritual union.

-Bhagavad Gita 6:32

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[Guest guest]

> >>>Call her house while she's gone and leave a message

> " Hi Kara - This is Jacquie. I hope you're having fun

> on your trip, don't worry, take all the time you need.

> Don't worry about us. I won't be needing your services

> anymore. I'm going to find a new (what is her title??)

> who can work a full schedule with . Thanks for all

> your help and support in the past. Buh buh "

> Kerri<<<<

>

> Oh, that's good, very good. Who was who said Kerri

> was always right?

>

> Tuna

>

And don't forget a little bit evil....

Kerri

[Guest guest]

I LIKE the telephone message idea.

Now here's a question: I have a bag of therapy materials that belong to her. I

can't steal them; even if I wanted to, it's locked. Should I say on the message

that we will drop the bag off with her landlords? she has a good relationship

with them.

Thanks for all the ideas so far.

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

>

> I LIKE the telephone message idea.

>

> Now here's a question: I have a bag of therapy materials that

belong to her. I can't steal them; even if I wanted to, it's

locked. Should I say on the message that we will drop the bag off

with her landlords? she has a good relationship with them.

>

> Thanks for all the ideas so far.

>

> Jacquie

I'd tell her they're at your house for whenever she wants to pick

them up (make her do it)

But if you want to avoid the contact - yea, drop them off!!

Kerri

[Guest guest]

> > I am loathe to fire her because I'm insecure, basically. Or

lonely. Take your pick. She is a girl about my age, in town, who is

nice to me. I don't want to make her angry at me because I'm afraid

that is one less person my age in town who will be nice to me.>>

Okay, see now I have to tend this one...or take it on.

Jacquie...listen carefully to me.

You are an incredible person. There is nothing for you to feel

insecure about. I know it is difficult to be in a place where you

can't make a lot of friends, but it's important for you to love

yourself enough that you are unwilling to accept " fake " friendship

that is hurting you in place of " real " friends who will love and help

you. A bucket load of the former won't take the place of one of the

latter...so hang on till a genuine friend comes along. It'll be

worth it.

Now, in the meantime, keep in mind that even though we are not there

in the village with you, there are a bunch of us out here in

cyberland who love you dearly, see the value you obviously don't see

in yourself, and are rooting for you 300% every day.

Now, go to the mirror, look yourself straight in the eye and say

outloud, " I'm terrific....I'm worth more than this person is giving

me, and so is , and I can do what I need to for us! "

Raena

[Guest guest]

>>>Then send me her address because she's not friends

with me so I don't give a rats ass and I'll kick her

into next week.

G

who thinks you are fabulous and she's a total

bitch<<<<

Oh I like that idea too!!

Tuna

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own, he has attained the highest state of spiritual union.

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>

>

> Tell her you're shipping it to her father's bedside in Niagra...

>

I love Raena's idea!

It sounds as if you should fire her, Jacquie, and I have hesitated to

respond because I am nearly certain I could not fire anyone no matter how

awful they were. But I read Jacquie H's post and I could see that maybe I

could (since I could clearly read how much she didn't want to fire the

therapist she fired and I thought she felt the way I did), but it would take

a LOT of nerve and perhaps prior practice? Try practicing the right words

on Marc? But let him know you don't mean it!

Salli

[Guest guest]

>

> Oh, that's good, very good. Who was who said Kerri

> was always right?

>

ME!

Salli

[Guest guest]

Jacquie,

DO IT! You were paying her to help , not be your friend, and she's not

even helping anymore! Why should he have to be let down again and

again every time she backs out of coming at the last minute. Even if she's

friends of Marc's friends, she's not doing her job and she doesn't seem to

worried about it. If it ever came up with the friends, just be honest and

tell them she kept letting down. Period.

If you're concerned about facing her, leave a message on her answering

machine while she's gone. Something like:

" Kara, it's Jacquie. I wanted to let you know that your help with is no

longer needed. You've been so busy lately that I haven't had a chance to

tell you. Thanks for your help in the past. " Period. End on message.

This way, you don't have to face her and worry about her surprise (or

possibly lack of) at hearing that she isn't needed. She's gone and no

confrontation, which sounds like what you are the most comfortable with.

Now, if you'd rather let her know why and throw it in her face, that would

be an entirely different approach!

Sue

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[Guest guest]

I would tell her she can COME get them if she doesn't send a not giving her a

pick up by date and if she doesn't come they are yours.

Re: I need some help -- PLEASE! (long)

> > Now here's a question: I have a bag of therapy materials that

belong to her. I can't steal them; even if I wanted to, it's

locked. Should I say on the message that we will drop the bag off

with her landlords? she has a good relationship with them.>>

Tell her you're shipping it to her father's bedside in Niagra...

Raena

[Guest guest]

Be nice, but fire her. You know why. She isn't do any favours

and she isn't earning her pay. Send her a letter or note, but PUT IT

IN WRITING:

Kara, thank you for all you have been able to do with over the

last (however long it is), but since your life has become complicated

with other things our schedules just don't meet with enough

consistency to fit 's needs. I hope your father recovers from

his illness and that your relationship goes well with your

boyfriend. Thank you for all you've done.

Then you can add something about time cards or whatever you need to

about having her and you notify the right agency that that will be

her final time card with you.

Good luck. Hopefully this will give you an idea of how to put forth

a graceful departure.

[Guest guest]

well,

first...you could write her a letter. No confrontation.

just pretend she is someone on this list who broke the rules.

Unsub her, Jacquie...just unsub her.

Penny

[Guest guest]

> well,

>

> first...you could write her a letter. No confrontation.

>

> just pretend she is someone on this list who broke the rules.

>

> Unsub her, Jacquie...just unsub her.

>

> Penny

LOL

Ban her ASS Jacquie!!!

Kerri

(pretend she's Edith!!)

[Guest guest]

I think Kerri's idea is right on the money. As for

the therapy materials..if you really rather not see

her anymore..drop it at her place.

Mimi

--- The Hunny Family wrote:

>

> I LIKE the telephone message idea.

>

> Now here's a question: I have a bag of therapy

> materials that belong to her. I can't steal them;

> even if I wanted to, it's locked. Should I say on

> the message that we will drop the bag off with her

> landlords? she has a good relationship with them.

>

> Thanks for all the ideas so far.

>

> Jacquie

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

See if she brings up the issue of her therapy materials.

Thea

> >

> > I LIKE the telephone message idea.

> >

> > Now here's a question: I have a bag of therapy

> > materials that belong to her. I can't steal them;

> > even if I wanted to, it's locked. Should I say on

> > the message that we will drop the bag off with her

> > landlords? she has a good relationship with them.

> >

> > Thanks for all the ideas so far.

> >

> > Jacquie

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Just a thought.

Jacquie -

Did it ever occur to you that Kara doesn't WANT to work for you anymore and

doesn't know how to tell YOU?

Just a thought...might make it easier.

Penny

[Guest guest]

Good one, Raena!

Penny :-D

Re: I need some help -- PLEASE! (long)

> > Now here's a question: I have a bag of therapy materials that

belong to her. I can't steal them; even if I wanted to, it's

locked. Should I say on the message that we will drop the bag off

with her landlords? she has a good relationship with them.>>

Tell her you're shipping it to her father's bedside in Niagra...

Raena