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Sorry Sue. We all get frustrated sometimes, but if he is doing this a lot,

and especially if he is yelling, than I would be upset too. He certainly is

NOT helping you when he reacts that way. Big Hugs!

Amy H--in Michigan

Kepler 4 1/2 ASD and Bethany 6 NT

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In a message dated 3/1/2002 8:33:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,

smgaska@... writes:

> Mark's just dumping water on him, probably washing a bit rougher than

> necessary. 't still crying and be told to quit crying (yeah, that's

> going to work).

Mu husband told me today that we should just take to seaworld becuase

he saw on discovery last night how the dolphins fixed autism.

Hope it got a laugh out of you? {{Sue}}

:) G

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Sorry you had a rough night, Sue. In your husbands

defense, there are times that I do the " wrong " thing

with Ebony too. It's hard to always be calm and not

get frustrated. On the other hand I know what you are

saying too. Been there, done that. I do the same

thing to my husband...sometimes its just too HARD to

watch him do it " wrong " that I just take over and do

it myself. I think men, in general, just have a

harder time dealing with the everyday frustrations

that come with any child, but especially a special

needs child.

Hang in there!

Tamara

--- smgaska wrote:

> Last night Mark was going to give his bath

> because I was doing homework with . , as

> usual didn't go into the bathroom when Mark wanted

> him to. I told him he would need to go over to him

> and tell him he needed an escort, (then would

> have walked with him to the bathroom). Since he

> didn't come to Mark, Mark starts raising his voice.

> As he raises his voice, starts to avoid him

> more. Finally he's under the table hiding from him,

> pretending he's afraid, (basically he's trying to

> play me to get me to do it instead of his dad). I

> told him the only reason his dad is raising his

> voice is because he's not listening to him and to go

> to the bathroom. Finally he goes. Then he's not

> getting undressed fast enough. Finally I hear him

> crying, Mark's voice is still raised. Far too many

> words are being used trying to get his dad's point

> across to him. Then I go stand outside the door and

> watch. I mean, what the hell, I'm certainly not

> concentrating on 's work at this point!

> Mark's just dumping water on him, probably washing a

> bit rougher than necessary. 't still crying

> and be told to quit crying (yeah, that's going to

> work). Finally, I told Mark to just get out of

> there. I took over the bath, still explaining to

> that none of this would have happened if he

> had just listened to his dad in the first place.

> Then I hear Mark in the hall saying I should have

> just stayed out of there.....

> I finished the baths up and wrote down that since he

> goes through this frequently and has been told

> before how to handle it (he also knows that raising

> his voice only escalates the problems,(even covered

> at the seminar today!)), and if he couldn't figure

> out a way to work with his son that I'll just do

> everything! I tossed it on the bed where he was

> fuming. I heard him throw the notebook when he was

> done reading it, then he went downstairs for the

> rest of the night! This morning we barely spoke

> except for his usual goodbyes to everyone.

> I'm getting so tired of his reacting to the kids

> with anger when he should know by now that it isn't

> going to change them and he's the one who needs to

> change. I imagine that his need for control is part

> of his aspergers, but I don't really care at this

> point. He says he loves the boys and wouldn't

> change a thing, yet then he acts like an ass with

> them now and then. Arrrrrggggggghhhhhhh!

>

> Sue

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Sounds familiar, Sue.

We, as Mom's and primary care-givers KNOW our kids. And I really think it

urks " Dad " when his way doesn't work...and that they have to admit that OUR

way does.

I hear ya.

{{{hugs}}}

Penny

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I've taken Jacqui to Seaworld.

It was a great experience until we sat in the soak section.

The dolphins were very cool, but she is still Autistic.

Penny ;-)

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In a message dated 3/1/2002 8:33:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,

smgaska@... writes:

> Mark's just dumping water on him, probably washing a bit rougher than

> necessary. 't still crying and be told to quit crying (yeah, that's

> going to work).

Mu husband told me today that we should just take to seaworld becuase

he saw on discovery last night how the dolphins fixed autism.

Hope it got a laugh out of you? {{Sue}}

:) G

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The part that gets to me is that we've discussed this before! And it's

always the same. I'm not saying I never raise my voice with my kids, but if

you've been told to try something different, at least TRY IT!

Sue

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> Sorry you had a rough night, Sue. In your husbands

> defense, there are times that I do the " wrong " thing

> with Ebony too. It's hard to always be calm and not

> get frustrated. On the other hand I know what you are

> saying too. Been there, done that. I do the same

> thing to my husband...sometimes its just too HARD to

> watch him do it " wrong " that I just take over and do

> it myself. I think men, in general, just have a

> harder time dealing with the everyday frustrations

> that come with any child, but especially a special

> needs child.

> Hang in there!

> Tamara

>

> --- smgaska wrote:

> > Last night Mark was going to give his bath

> > because I was doing homework with . , as

> > usual didn't go into the bathroom when Mark wanted

> > him to. I told him he would need to go over to him

> > and tell him he needed an escort, (then would

> > have walked with him to the bathroom). Since he

> > didn't come to Mark, Mark starts raising his voice.

> > As he raises his voice, starts to avoid him

> > more. Finally he's under the table hiding from him,

> > pretending he's afraid, (basically he's trying to

> > play me to get me to do it instead of his dad). I

> > told him the only reason his dad is raising his

> > voice is because he's not listening to him and to go

> > to the bathroom. Finally he goes. Then he's not

> > getting undressed fast enough. Finally I hear him

> > crying, Mark's voice is still raised. Far too many

> > words are being used trying to get his dad's point

> > across to him. Then I go stand outside the door and

> > watch. I mean, what the hell, I'm certainly not

> > concentrating on 's work at this point!

> > Mark's just dumping water on him, probably washing a

> > bit rougher than necessary. 't still crying

> > and be told to quit crying (yeah, that's going to

> > work). Finally, I told Mark to just get out of

> > there. I took over the bath, still explaining to

> > that none of this would have happened if he

> > had just listened to his dad in the first place.

> > Then I hear Mark in the hall saying I should have

> > just stayed out of there.....

> > I finished the baths up and wrote down that since he

> > goes through this frequently and has been told

> > before how to handle it (he also knows that raising

> > his voice only escalates the problems,(even covered

> > at the seminar today!)), and if he couldn't figure

> > out a way to work with his son that I'll just do

> > everything! I tossed it on the bed where he was

> > fuming. I heard him throw the notebook when he was

> > done reading it, then he went downstairs for the

> > rest of the night! This morning we barely spoke

> > except for his usual goodbyes to everyone.

> > I'm getting so tired of his reacting to the kids

> > with anger when he should know by now that it isn't

> > going to change them and he's the one who needs to

> > change. I imagine that his need for control is part

> > of his aspergers, but I don't really care at this

> > point. He says he loves the boys and wouldn't

> > change a thing, yet then he acts like an ass with

> > them now and then. Arrrrrggggggghhhhhhh!

> >

> > Sue

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

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In a message dated 3/1/2002 4:41:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,

nospam@... writes:

> The dolphins were very cool, but she is still Autistic.

>

> Penny ;-)

My husband still thinks he can talk my mom into converting the extra bedroom

into a dolphin tank. He says she has to swim with them LOL. So I said oh so

we'll just put a dolphin door in and once a day push her threw :)

G

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How dumb can men get....was he serious??

I did smile by the way...

Sue

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> In a message dated 3/1/2002 8:33:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> smgaska@... writes:

>

>

> > Mark's just dumping water on him, probably washing a bit rougher than

> > necessary. 't still crying and be told to quit crying (yeah,

that's

> > going to work).

>

> Mu husband told me today that we should just take to seaworld

becuase

> he saw on discovery last night how the dolphins fixed autism.

>

> Hope it got a laugh out of you? {{Sue}}

>

> :) G

>

>

>

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Hahahaaa,

Not of course that she's still autistic though...

Seu

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>

>

> In a message dated 3/1/2002 8:33:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> smgaska@... writes:

>

>

> > Mark's just dumping water on him, probably washing a bit rougher than

> > necessary. 't still crying and be told to quit crying (yeah,

that's

> > going to work).

>

> Mu husband told me today that we should just take to seaworld

becuase

> he saw on discovery last night how the dolphins fixed autism.

>

> Hope it got a laugh out of you? {{Sue}}

>

> :) G

>

>

>

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I imagine that his need for control is part of his aspergers, but I don't

really care at this point. He says he loves the boys and wouldn't change a

thing, yet then he acts like an ass with them now and then.

Arrrrrggggggghhhhhhh!

Oh, Sue, I am sure that Mark is a basically decent guy (just from things you

have written) but this sounds SO much like Lou. And it is one of the reasons

that I used to do it all, because I knew that Lou would be losing his temper

with them. Even when I basically agreed with Lou that a kid was

misbehaving, I always thought he handled it kind of badly.

And in his case I really and truly did worry that he might really hurt

someone if he had too much trouble. I actually did not think he would hurt

one of his children on purpose, but my fears were quite justified as most of

you know. I am sorry and I certainly do understand.

Salli

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