Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Today has been quite a day for us. Two times today, Ebony became inconsolable and self abusive. Screaming throwing herself onto the ground. Crazy out of control. She would kick, scream, etc if I tried to hold her or do deep pressure. Her lips are bloody because she slammed her face into the floor and couch numerous times. Is she going to do this now all the time? What in the heck would cause this? She was soooooo upset and sad and scary. It seemed like it was sensory? There is one therapist that works with Ebony, , that sometimes overwhelms Ebony. She is soooo physical and I have noticed even with me that she doesn't seem aware of personal space issues. She will stand uncomfortably close to me when she talks to me so I can't imagine how Ebony must feel. Ebony likes a lot of physical re-enforcement, but I feel like overdoes it sometimes. It was after her shift that this happened today. And it has happened one other time too and it was after/during this woman's shift. I feel like just telling them I don't want her to work with Ebony anymore, but would that be fair. I have talked to her supervisor about this and both her and the lead therapist have mentioned this issue to before. This is very scary. Ebony has never been violent like this before. She used to bang her mouth a little when she was around two, but she never did it with force like this. And she has never kicked and thrown herself around like this. Help....... Tamara __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 On some other list, I can't even recall which one, they are correlating their autistic children's tantrums/bad behaviors with barmetric pressure, and/or full moon. That said - - is this just today, or recently? Completely out of the blue - nothing instigated it? (Aside from the therapist having been with her....) Did you change anything, however little, in the house? And what is Ebony like when this person comes to the house? Is she wary of her or does she like her? It sounds like it's reasonable that it might be this OT person, but just in case it's not, I thought I'd throw some more things out there. On the other hand, some days are just BAD. I dont' think this means that she will tantrum in this way from hereon. It's way too early to determine that, I would say. I hope things improve, and quickly! I imagine it must be SUPER traumatic to witness something this violent.... ( Poor kid. Hope tomorrow is much better. Grace Ebony--meltdown...long > Today has been quite a day for us. > Two times today, Ebony became inconsolable and self > abusive. Screaming throwing herself onto the ground. > Crazy out of control. She would kick, scream, etc if > I tried to hold her or do deep pressure. Her lips are > bloody because she slammed her face into the floor and > couch numerous times. > Is she going to do this now all the time? What in the > heck would cause this? She was soooooo upset and sad > and scary. > It seemed like it was sensory? There is one therapist > that works with Ebony, , that sometimes > overwhelms Ebony. She is soooo physical and I have > noticed even with me that she doesn't seem aware of > personal space issues. She will stand uncomfortably > close to me when she talks to me so I can't imagine > how Ebony must feel. Ebony likes a lot of physical > re-enforcement, but I feel like overdoes it > sometimes. It was after her shift that this happened > today. And it has happened one other time too and it > was after/during this woman's shift. I feel like just > telling them I don't want her to work with Ebony > anymore, but would that be fair. I have talked to her > supervisor about this and both her and the lead > therapist have mentioned this issue to > before. > This is very scary. Ebony has never been violent like > this before. She used to bang her mouth a little when > she was around two, but she never did it with force > like this. And she has never kicked and thrown > herself around like this. > Help....... > Tamara > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Grace: I have noticed that Ebony reacts to barometric pressure changes..she usually screams more. I think it hurts her ears. But this is crazy out of control stuff. It is actually scary. I mean her lips are swollen and bloody!!! It happened twice today and once last week. But both days it was after or during a session with this therapist. I don't want to heap it all on her, but it just seems like too much of a coincidence. Ebony doesn't seem to mind her especially. She is fine when she comes and will go in the room with her without a problem. And she has been working with her for about 3 or 4 months, now. She isn't an ot, though. She does the ABA for us. But all the therapist do a lot of physically re-enforcing stuff with Ebony cause that is what she likes. She jumps, gets big hugs, horse back rides, etc. Lots of input. This is just so incredibly scary. I didn't know what to do. The first time, today, I gave her a bath and put shaving cream all over the walls for her to play with. She finally calmed down then. But within an hour she was doing it again. That time, I got her shoes on and coat and took her outside cause we were leaving anyway to do banking and go out to dinner. She calmed down as soon as we went outside. She was fine the rest of the night. We even ate at Pizza Hut and it was really crowded. She had a little trouble eating though with her lips so sensitive. I just don't know what to do to help her!!! Tamara --- Grace Keh wrote: > On some other list, I can't even recall which one, > they are correlating > their autistic children's tantrums/bad behaviors > with barmetric pressure, > and/or full moon. > That said - - is this just today, or recently? > Completely out of the blue - > nothing instigated it? (Aside from the therapist > having been with her....) > Did you change anything, however little, in the > house? > > And what is Ebony like when this person comes to the > house? Is she wary of > her or does she like her? > It sounds like it's reasonable that it might be this > OT person, but just in > case it's not, I thought I'd throw some more things > out there. > > On the other hand, some days are just BAD. I dont' > think this means that > she will tantrum in this way from hereon. It's way > too early to determine > that, I would say. > I hope things improve, and quickly! I imagine it > must be SUPER traumatic to > witness something this violent.... ( > > Poor kid. Hope tomorrow is much better. > > Grace > > > > Ebony--meltdown...long > > > > Today has been quite a day for us. > > Two times today, Ebony became inconsolable and > self > > abusive. Screaming throwing herself onto the > ground. > > Crazy out of control. She would kick, scream, etc > if > > I tried to hold her or do deep pressure. Her lips > are > > bloody because she slammed her face into the floor > and > > couch numerous times. > > Is she going to do this now all the time? What in > the > > heck would cause this? She was soooooo upset and > sad > > and scary. > > It seemed like it was sensory? There is one > therapist > > that works with Ebony, , that sometimes > > overwhelms Ebony. She is soooo physical and I > have > > noticed even with me that she doesn't seem aware > of > > personal space issues. She will stand > uncomfortably > > close to me when she talks to me so I can't > imagine > > how Ebony must feel. Ebony likes a lot of > physical > > re-enforcement, but I feel like overdoes > it > > sometimes. It was after her shift that this > happened > > today. And it has happened one other time too > and it > > was after/during this woman's shift. I feel like > just > > telling them I don't want her to work with Ebony > > anymore, but would that be fair. I have talked to > her > > supervisor about this and both her and the lead > > therapist have mentioned this issue to > > before. > > This is very scary. Ebony has never been violent > like > > this before. She used to bang her mouth a little > when > > she was around two, but she never did it with > force > > like this. And she has never kicked and thrown > > herself around like this. > > Help....... > > Tamara > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Oh, Tamara... that just doesn't sound right. Have you mentioned it to a doctor? Ask. I think it's a strong coincidence, but her lack of reaction TO this person being there makes me wonder. But both times, it did happen with this person....so..... Wait - - has this person come any time in between those two times? So besides those two days - it has never happened? What is the barometric pressure today, and I wonder what it was on the last day it happened.... It sounds so sudden, and so out of control. Something's up, I wish, I wish, I wish I could help you figure out what. ( Sorry - I will be thinking of you, and hope it is very temporary. It's disturbing to ME, I can't imagine what YOU feel like! Grace Ebony--meltdown...long > > > > > > > Today has been quite a day for us. > > > Two times today, Ebony became inconsolable and > > self > > > abusive. Screaming throwing herself onto the > > ground. > > > Crazy out of control. She would kick, scream, etc > > if > > > I tried to hold her or do deep pressure. Her lips > > are > > > bloody because she slammed her face into the floor > > and > > > couch numerous times. > > > Is she going to do this now all the time? What in > > the > > > heck would cause this? She was soooooo upset and > > sad > > > and scary. > > > It seemed like it was sensory? There is one > > therapist > > > that works with Ebony, , that sometimes > > > overwhelms Ebony. She is soooo physical and I > > have > > > noticed even with me that she doesn't seem aware > > of > > > personal space issues. She will stand > > uncomfortably > > > close to me when she talks to me so I can't > > imagine > > > how Ebony must feel. Ebony likes a lot of > > physical > > > re-enforcement, but I feel like overdoes > > it > > > sometimes. It was after her shift that this > > happened > > > today. And it has happened one other time too > > and it > > > was after/during this woman's shift. I feel like > > just > > > telling them I don't want her to work with Ebony > > > anymore, but would that be fair. I have talked to > > her > > > supervisor about this and both her and the lead > > > therapist have mentioned this issue to > > > before. > > > This is very scary. Ebony has never been violent > > like > > > this before. She used to bang her mouth a little > > when > > > she was around two, but she never did it with > > force > > > like this. And she has never kicked and thrown > > > herself around like this. > > > Help....... > > > Tamara > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Yeah, this therapist has been here other days and it has been fine. That's why I don't want to overreact and blame this woman if it isn't her. She's just easiest to blame cause she makes me uncomfortable sometimes. Not is a creepy way, just like she doesn't realize she is in my space. But that might be more my issue than hers...LOL. With all my wierd sensory stuff..who knows? If it happens again, I will definetely be calling the doctor. Tamara --- Grace Keh wrote: > Oh, Tamara... that just doesn't sound right. > Have you mentioned it to a doctor? > > Ask. I think it's a strong coincidence, but her > lack of reaction TO this > person being there makes me wonder. But both times, > it did happen with this > person....so..... > Wait - - has this person come any time in between > those two times? > > So besides those two days - it has never happened? > What is the barometric pressure today, and I wonder > what it was on the last > day it happened.... > > It sounds so sudden, and so out of control. > Something's up, I wish, I wish, > I wish I could help you figure out what. > > ( Sorry - I will be thinking of you, and hope it > is very temporary. It's > disturbing to ME, I can't imagine what YOU feel > like! > > Grace > > Ebony--meltdown...long > > > > > > > > > > Today has been quite a day for us. > > > > Two times today, Ebony became inconsolable and > > > self > > > > abusive. Screaming throwing herself onto the > > > ground. > > > > Crazy out of control. She would kick, scream, > etc > > > if > > > > I tried to hold her or do deep pressure. Her > lips > > > are > > > > bloody because she slammed her face into the > floor > > > and > > > > couch numerous times. > > > > Is she going to do this now all the time? > What in > > > the > > > > heck would cause this? She was soooooo upset > and > > > sad > > > > and scary. > > > > It seemed like it was sensory? There is one > > > therapist > > > > that works with Ebony, , that > sometimes > > > > overwhelms Ebony. She is soooo physical and I > > > have > > > > noticed even with me that she doesn't seem > aware > > > of > > > > personal space issues. She will stand > > > uncomfortably > > > > close to me when she talks to me so I can't > > > imagine > > > > how Ebony must feel. Ebony likes a lot of > > > physical > > > > re-enforcement, but I feel like > overdoes > > > it > > > > sometimes. It was after her shift that this > > > happened > > > > today. And it has happened one other time too > > > and it > > > > was after/during this woman's shift. I feel > like > > > just > > > > telling them I don't want her to work with > Ebony > > > > anymore, but would that be fair. I have > talked to > > > her > > > > supervisor about this and both her and the > lead > > > > therapist have mentioned this issue to > > > > > before. > > > > This is very scary. Ebony has never been > violent > > > like > > > > this before. She used to bang her mouth a > little > > > when > > > > she was around two, but she never did it with > > > force > > > > like this. And she has never kicked and > thrown > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Oh, Tamara, sorry to hear this. Poor Ebony and Mommy, too. Well, if you really think it is because of ..maybe you should ask the supervisor if she can send someone else..as a trial..for a few sessions..if Ebony doesn't get upset with the new person..you will know for sure that it's 's methods and not something else. Hugs, Mimi --- tamara laskowski wrote: > Today has been quite a day for us. > Two times today, Ebony became inconsolable and self > abusive. Screaming throwing herself onto the > ground. > Crazy out of control. She would kick, scream, etc > if > I tried to hold her or do deep pressure. Her lips > are > bloody because she slammed her face into the floor > and > couch numerous times. > Is she going to do this now all the time? What in > the > heck would cause this? She was soooooo upset and > sad > and scary. > It seemed like it was sensory? There is one > therapist > that works with Ebony, , that sometimes > overwhelms Ebony. She is soooo physical and I have > noticed even with me that she doesn't seem aware of > personal space issues. She will stand uncomfortably > close to me when she talks to me so I can't imagine > how Ebony must feel. Ebony likes a lot of physical > re-enforcement, but I feel like overdoes it > sometimes. It was after her shift that this > happened > today. And it has happened one other time too and > it > was after/during this woman's shift. I feel like > just > telling them I don't want her to work with Ebony > anymore, but would that be fair. I have talked to > her > supervisor about this and both her and the lead > therapist have mentioned this issue to > before. > This is very scary. Ebony has never been violent > like > this before. She used to bang her mouth a little > when > she was around two, but she never did it with force > like this. And she has never kicked and thrown > herself around like this. > Help....... > Tamara > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 >>today. And it has happened one other time too and it was after/during this woman's shift. I feel like just telling them I don't want her to work with Ebony anymore, but would that be fair. I have talked to her<< Fair to who? You're not accountable to that woman. She's supposed to be helping. That's why she's there. If she's not helping, get her out. You'll never see her again in your life. You don't have to worry about making her mad at you. Fair to Ebony? Well, is Ebony benefitting from this woman's work with her? If no, then the only thing this person is adding to your life is misery. If yes, do the benefits outweigh the problems? (Given the self-abuse, my answer would be an emphatic NO! But I don't even know what she does with Ebony so...) Can you find someone else to do the same work? Can you reduce the time Ebony spends with her and see if that helps? Can you oversee the time they spend together and point out when the woman is overwhelming Ebony? I sure hope you figure something out. That's scary. Thinking of you, -Sara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Ebony has five therapists that come to the house to work with her. (ABA) So, it may be coincidence that it is when this woman is there or it may mean something. I don't know. But I will be talking to the Senior and Lead therapists that work with Ebony. The other problem is that we recieved a call yesterday that due to cutbacks (?) we would no longer have Sherri as our Senior therapist. She has been with us since we started therapy over two years ago. So now I have to have someone else (Becky) who I have never even met. I think it is just wrong that they did not let Sherri tell me this. And cutbacks...like there is a lack of autistic kids? I don't get that. I am just having a stressful life right now. Ebony seems fine this morning, but I feel like I am walking on eggshells because I don't want to do anything to set her off again and I don't know what set her off to begin with. ARGGGGGGGG!!!! Anyway, thanks for the support. Tamara --- Mimi Holl wrote: > Oh, Tamara, sorry to hear this. Poor Ebony and > Mommy, > too. > > Well, if you really think it is because of > ..maybe you should ask the supervisor if she > can send someone else..as a trial..for a few > sessions..if Ebony doesn't get upset with the new > person..you will know for sure that it's 's > methods and not something else. > > Hugs, > > Mimi > > --- tamara laskowski wrote: > > Today has been quite a day for us. > > Two times today, Ebony became inconsolable and > self > > abusive. Screaming throwing herself onto the > > ground. > > Crazy out of control. She would kick, scream, etc > > if > > I tried to hold her or do deep pressure. Her lips > > are > > bloody because she slammed her face into the floor > > and > > couch numerous times. > > Is she going to do this now all the time? What in > > the > > heck would cause this? She was soooooo upset and > > sad > > and scary. > > It seemed like it was sensory? There is one > > therapist > > that works with Ebony, , that sometimes > > overwhelms Ebony. She is soooo physical and I > have > > noticed even with me that she doesn't seem aware > of > > personal space issues. She will stand > uncomfortably > > close to me when she talks to me so I can't > imagine > > how Ebony must feel. Ebony likes a lot of > physical > > re-enforcement, but I feel like overdoes > it > > sometimes. It was after her shift that this > > happened > > today. And it has happened one other time too > and > > it > > was after/during this woman's shift. I feel like > > just > > telling them I don't want her to work with Ebony > > anymore, but would that be fair. I have talked to > > her > > supervisor about this and both her and the lead > > therapist have mentioned this issue to > > before. > > This is very scary. Ebony has never been violent > > like > > this before. She used to bang her mouth a little > > when > > she was around two, but she never did it with > force > > like this. And she has never kicked and thrown > > herself around like this. > > Help....... > > Tamara > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 From your observations I would strongly suspect a causal link to this Therapist. I'd put an end to her working with Ebony immediately and request a different therapist. Many times when our kids have strong sensory issues it becomes terribly overwhelming for them and results in a tantrum or meltdown depending on the severity of the overload. still has this problem. Gail at twelve will still just shut down when she is overwhelmed. Fair has nothing to do with it. How Ebony is responding to this woman does. Follow your instincts Mom. Moms know their kids! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Thanks, . I am thinking that too. But getting rid of her will mean less hours for Ebony's home therapy. It is really hard to find therapist around here. Oh well. I am going to speak to the new Senior therapist on Monday and see what happens with her appointment with the psychologist that we have a week from Wednesday. Tamara --- egcjssmom wrote: > From your observations I would strongly suspect a > causal link to > this Therapist. I'd put an end to her > working with Ebony > immediately and request a different therapist. Many > times when our > kids have strong sensory issues it becomes terribly > overwhelming for > them and results in a tantrum or meltdown depending > on the severity > of the overload. still has this problem. > Gail at twelve will > still just shut down when she is overwhelmed. Fair > has nothing to > do with it. How Ebony is responding to this woman > does. Follow your > instincts Mom. Moms know their kids! > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Yes, I understand what you are saying. I just don't know for sure that it is her that is causing this to happen. Ya know? But I will be taking some action on Monday. Thanks, Sara. Tamara --- The Byks wrote: > >>today. And it has happened one other time too > and it > was after/during this woman's shift. I feel like > just > telling them I don't want her to work with Ebony > anymore, but would that be fair. I have talked to > her<< > > Fair to who? You're not accountable to that woman. > She's supposed to be > helping. That's why she's there. If she's not > helping, get her out. > You'll never see her again in your life. You don't > have to worry about > making her mad at you. > > Fair to Ebony? Well, is Ebony benefitting from this > woman's work with her? > If no, then the only thing this person is adding to > your life is misery. If > yes, do the benefits outweigh the problems? (Given > the self-abuse, my > answer would be an emphatic NO! But I don't even > know what she does with > Ebony so...) Can you find someone else to do the > same work? Can you reduce > the time Ebony spends with her and see if that > helps? Can you oversee the > time they spend together and point out when the > woman is overwhelming Ebony? > > I sure hope you figure something out. That's scary. > > Thinking of you, > > -Sara. > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 YES! Tamara it IS fair. I'm sure 's behavior is unintentional, but if she isn't right for Ebony, then she just isn't right. It's not a personal thing. YOU need to look out for Ebony. And YEAH for you for picking up on what the problem might be!!!! I'd explain it to and her supervisors, and if they don't understand, then you don't want them anyway. Penny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 --Tamara, Perhaps you could discuss the issue with . It is also possible that she is making demands upon Ebony that is overstimulating her. The therapist needs to perhaps adjust her interactions and be less intrusive perhaps. Is it also possible that Ebony really likes this woman, and is reacting to her not being there? Just a thought. It could be that jennifer is very physical with all the children and this is why there are such strong reactions to her. Perhaps you need to see how works with Ebony and make a decision about whether she should continue. Thea - In parenting_autism@y..., tamara laskowski <tamara_b73@y...> wrote: > Today has been quite a day for us. > Two times today, Ebony became inconsolable and self > abusive. Screaming throwing herself onto the ground. > Crazy out of control. She would kick, scream, etc if > I tried to hold her or do deep pressure. Her lips are > bloody because she slammed her face into the floor and > couch numerous times. > Is she going to do this now all the time? What in the > heck would cause this? She was soooooo upset and sad > and scary. > It seemed like it was sensory? There is one therapist > that works with Ebony, , that sometimes > overwhelms Ebony. She is soooo physical and I have > noticed even with me that she doesn't seem aware of > personal space issues. She will stand uncomfortably > close to me when she talks to me so I can't imagine > how Ebony must feel. Ebony likes a lot of physical > re-enforcement, but I feel like overdoes it > sometimes. It was after her shift that this happened > today. And it has happened one other time too and it > was after/during this woman's shift. I feel like just > telling them I don't want her to work with Ebony > anymore, but would that be fair. I have talked to her > supervisor about this and both her and the lead > therapist have mentioned this issue to > before. > This is very scary. Ebony has never been violent like > this before. She used to bang her mouth a little when > she was around two, but she never did it with force > like this. And she has never kicked and thrown > herself around like this. > Help....... > Tamara > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Yeah. She comes Monday morning so I will talk to her then and also I might go in and observe. But really all the therapists do the same programs. So she should not be any different than the others in demands. Ya know? Thanks Tamara --- theaghoss wrote: > --Tamara, > Perhaps you could discuss the issue with . > It is also > possible that she is making demands upon Ebony that > is > overstimulating her. The therapist needs to perhaps > adjust her > interactions and be less intrusive perhaps. Is it > also possible that > Ebony really likes this woman, and is reacting to > her not being > there? Just a thought. It could be that jennifer is > very physical > with all the children and this is why there are such > strong reactions > to her. Perhaps you need to see how works > with Ebony and > make a decision about whether she should continue. > > > Thea > > > > > > > > > > > - In parenting_autism@y..., tamara laskowski > <tamara_b73@y...> wrote: > > Today has been quite a day for us. > > Two times today, Ebony became inconsolable and > self > > abusive. Screaming throwing herself onto the > ground. > > Crazy out of control. She would kick, scream, etc > if > > I tried to hold her or do deep pressure. Her lips > are > > bloody because she slammed her face into the floor > and > > couch numerous times. > > Is she going to do this now all the time? What in > the > > heck would cause this? She was soooooo upset and > sad > > and scary. > > It seemed like it was sensory? There is one > therapist > > that works with Ebony, , that sometimes > > overwhelms Ebony. She is soooo physical and I > have > > noticed even with me that she doesn't seem aware > of > > personal space issues. She will stand > uncomfortably > > close to me when she talks to me so I can't > imagine > > how Ebony must feel. Ebony likes a lot of > physical > > re-enforcement, but I feel like overdoes > it > > sometimes. It was after her shift that this > happened > > today. And it has happened one other time too > and it > > was after/during this woman's shift. I feel like > just > > telling them I don't want her to work with Ebony > > anymore, but would that be fair. I have talked to > her > > supervisor about this and both her and the lead > > therapist have mentioned this issue to > > before. > > This is very scary. Ebony has never been violent > like > > this before. She used to bang her mouth a little > when > > she was around two, but she never did it with > force > > like this. And she has never kicked and thrown > > herself around like this. > > Help....... > > Tamara > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Thanks Penny! Tamara --- Penny wrote: > YES! Tamara it IS fair. > > I'm sure 's behavior is unintentional, but > if she isn't right for > Ebony, then she just isn't right. It's not a > personal thing. YOU need to > look out for Ebony. > > And YEAH for you for picking up on what the problem > might be!!!! > > I'd explain it to and her supervisors, and > if they don't > understand, then you don't want them anyway. > > Penny > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Sounds awful. Poor Ebony. Have you been keeping a diary of these bad times? Writing down what happens before, during and after may help you figure out what is causing these fits. If you think it is the OT, maybe you can ask for someone else. Hope things get better soon. Tuna ===== When a person responds to the joys and sorrows of others as if they were his own, he has attained the highest state of spiritual union. -Bhagavad Gita 6:32 ______________________________________________________________________ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 In a message dated 3/1/2002 11:46:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, tamara_b73@... writes: > . I have talked to her supervisor about this and both her and the lead > therapist have mentioned this issue to before. You don't need to give them three strikes. Don't say it personally just say with her issues that you need someone new. I'm so sorry !!!!! G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2002 Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 Well, she just did it again today and she did not even have therapy. I think she was lining up the stacking cups and just got pissed off? I don't know. It wasn't quite as bad as on Friday, but still. Kicking, screaming, banging her mouth, etc. I am going to call the doctor tomorrow. Tamara --- myfishruleWJG@... wrote: > In a message dated 3/1/2002 11:46:48 PM Eastern > Standard Time, > tamara_b73@... writes: > > > > . I have talked to her supervisor about this and > both her and the lead > > therapist have mentioned this issue to > before. > > You don't need to give them three strikes. Don't > say it personally just say > with her issues that you need someone new. > > I'm so sorry !!!!! > > G > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2002 Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 > Well, she just did it again today and she did not even > have therapy. I think she was lining up the stacking > cups and just got pissed off? I don't know. It > wasn't quite as bad as on Friday, but still. Kicking, > screaming, banging her mouth, etc. I am going to call > the doctor tomorrow. >> Tamara, You can't identify any real cause for these, other than she is angry? Raena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2002 Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 No I haven't actually written it down. That's a good idea though. Tamara --- Moretuna wrote: > Sounds awful. Poor Ebony. Have you been keeping a > diary of these bad times? Writing down what happens > before, during and after may help you figure out > what > is causing these fits. If you think it is the OT, > maybe you can ask for someone else. > > Hope things get better soon. > > Tuna > > ===== > When a person responds to the joys and sorrows of > others as if they were his own, he has attained the > highest state of spiritual union. > > -Bhagavad Gita 6:32 > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2002 Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 Nope! She just starts screaming and throwing herself around the room. Then starts kicking and banging her mouth. If I try to pick her up she kicks and twists and screams and fights me. Before, if she got upset I could calm her. But these are just inconsolable. I just have to let her work it out. The one just a bit ago was out of the blue. She was playing in the living room with the stacking cups and all of the sudden started screaming. I mean, What the Heck?????? Could this be caused by meds? Too much, not enough? What do you think? Tamara --- rgr4us wrote: > > > Well, she just did it again today and she did not > even > > have therapy. I think she was lining up the > stacking > > cups and just got pissed off? I don't know. It > > wasn't quite as bad as on Friday, but still. > Kicking, > > screaming, banging her mouth, etc. I am going to > call > > the doctor tomorrow. >> > > Tamara, > > You can't identify any real cause for these, other > than she is > angry? > > Raena > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2002 Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 It's certainly possible. But today she did this three times and nobody was here at all but us. Just out of the blue she would start to tantrum and bang her head. The second two times today she switched from her mouth to her forehead. I think her lips are pretty much torn up on the inside and very sore. I just don't know what is causing this. That it happened today so much makes me think it maybe doesn't have anything to do with the therapist. Maybe it is a med problem or something else? Tamara --- myfishruleWJG@... wrote: > In a message dated 3/2/2002 2:17:53 PM Eastern > Standard Time, > tamara_b73@... writes: > > > > . But really all the therapists do the same > programs. > > This may sound really dumb but HATED her > speech therapist until I told > her to cut his tone of voice in half. She always > gets edgy after her nap for > the first hour and that's always when he's > scheduled. Now she is all over > him on his lap, hugging him etc. Could it be > something simple like that? > > G > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2002 Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 Tamara 's speech therapist works at a place called the woods school sometimes. It's a place for kids that have problems like that and their parents are at a lose for what to do with them. I'm seeing him tonight and will mention this and see if he has seen anything. Her has been working with autistic children for 14 years. I'll email later G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 Thank you! That is so nice. I would really appreciate it. Any helpful ways to deal with this and prevent her from hurting herself anymore would be great!! Tamara --- myfishruleWJG@... wrote: > Tamara > > 's speech therapist works at a place called the > woods school sometimes. > It's a place for kids that have problems like that > and their parents are at a > lose for what to do with them. I'm seeing him > tonight and will mention this > and see if he has seen anything. Her has been > working with autistic children > for 14 years. I'll email later > > G > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 Tamara, I'd give one more time with her, and if it happens again, and has not happened any other time, I'd get rid of her quickly! Sue > ---------------------------------------------------- Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum & refcd=PT97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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