Re: New Here, introduction (w/response)

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FROGNETBIZ@... said:

<<I was on the XR formulation. What will happen if I just wait it out? I

don't have much of the drug left and my doctor doesn't want me on it anymore so

I doubt she will re-prescribe it to me now. I'm still taking lexapro, ativan,

and trazodone. Right now I'm focusing on getting off of the Seroquel and then

the other stuff later on.

Thank you for your help,

Val>>

** Val, let me ask you something. If you cut yourself with a power saw, how

long will it be before it heals if you don't go and get the recommended 32

stitches?

You won't heal from this by just letting it be just as you won't heal from

going off a drug that rapidly by waiting it out. Most people who do this

actually deteriorate over time and end up totally disabled. Of course, chances

are with the list you just gave me you are already totally disabled due to the

drugs. Whoever put you on all these should be prosecuted.

As I said, you will hurt yourself for years to come if you try to ride it out.

You said that it's getting worse instead of better. This is what happens.

There's no such thing as going off too quickly and having the symptoms you do

and being able to recover by just waiting. I'm speaking from 22 years of

experience and thousands of people, some who still chose to do nothing despite

being told, as you've been told, how harmful that is.

Just so you know,the worst thing you can do right now is be reducing any other

drug when you are already in such bad withdrawal.

If you make enough noise about how bad you are feeling (spare none of the

details and cry id you need to), tel your doc you want to reinstate Seroquel in

a regular formulation at 25 mg and decrease it more slowly so you don't feel

this way. Be persistent. Call daily or twice a day if you must. Doctors

respond to persistence.

A general comment for everyone -- if you believe your doctor knows about

these drugs you are mistaken. They believe what the pharmaceutical industry

tells them. These SR, SL, etc. formulations were made that way to prevent you

from ever being able to successfully discontinue them. So doctors with no

ability for critical thought (most of them) play right into the hands of Big

Pharma.

Could other people please speak up here and tell Val your experiences and those

of people you know who went off a drug too quickly and did not reinstate. I have

clients who did this 5 years ago and still aren't right.

Regards,

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> Netfrog225 said:

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> <<I joined this group because for the past 3 years I've been taking Seroquel

within the last year I was able to go down to 25mg at bedtime and subsequently

was taken off of it three weeks ago. Now I'm having terrible withdrawal

symptoms including waves of nausea, muscle stiffness, involuntary muscle

movements, irritabitlity, headaches and the list goes on. I was wondering if

anyone else has gone through this after stopping this drug, what helped, and if

anyone knows how long this will last? I figured the witdrawals would be getting

better by now but seem to be getting worse.

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> Thank you!>>

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> ** This is not going to go away very much. You'll still be miserable a

couple of years from now. You went off too quickly. You can fix this by

reinstating the drug at the 25 mg. level. Then, wait until you feel " normal "

again. This should take only 1-4 days. After you have stabilized, let me know

and I'll help you with your next steps. If you're on the XR formulation,

please let me know.

>

> Believe me, you don't want to wait it out. It's more harmful than taking

the drug. Are you currently taking any other " psych drug " ?

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> Btw, could you give a first name please? Even a false one will do. It's

really not possible to engage with a person when they don't have a name.

Thanks.

>

> Regards,

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Hi Val,

I'm one of the clients is referring to. 5 years ago, I made a big mess

of things when I feared tolerance withdrawal from Effexor XR, discontinued it

(and xanax) abruptly and ended up " trying " many other drugs after that, thinking

I just needed to find a drug that will fit me. After more abrupt

discontinuations, I ended up unable to work, unable to leave my home and

collecting government disability payments. 3 years later, after I thought life

was becoming livable again, some damages from the drugs (and more so from the

cold turkey withdrawals) became quite evident. Long story short, I had to

reinstate xanax and have been on it for 2 more years now. I've had to accept

that I may be on it for quite some time until I can get the cold turkey damages

(such as hypoglycemia, adrenal and thyroid issues and hormonal imbalances) under

control and then I will finally wean off xanax as per 's

recommendations. I remember fearing the drugs, thinking that the sooner I get

them out of my body and detox, the sooner I can begin to heal. But discontinuing

faster than the body can adjust is more damaging than just staying on the drugs.

For me, waiting it out didn't work. Things got worse over the years. Being

patient with this process and listening to your body will pay off. You'll thank

yourself in the end.

Take care always,

Tonya

--- In Withdrawal_and_Recovery , " netfrog225 "

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> Could other people please speak up here and tell Val your experiences and

those of people you know who went off a drug too quickly and did not reinstate.

I have clients who did this 5 years ago and still aren't right.

>

> Regards,

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[Guest guest]

Ok, I will see if my prescriber will restart it and then go from there. I will

let everyone know how it goes.

Thank you all for responding,

Val

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> > Netfrog225 said:

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> > <<I joined this group because for the past 3 years I've been taking Seroquel

within the last year I was able to go down to 25mg at bedtime and subsequently

was taken off of it three weeks ago. Now I'm having terrible withdrawal

symptoms including waves of nausea, muscle stiffness, involuntary muscle

movements, irritabitlity, headaches and the list goes on. I was wondering if

anyone else has gone through this after stopping this drug, what helped, and if

anyone knows how long this will last? I figured the witdrawals would be getting

better by now but seem to be getting worse.

> >

> > Thank you!>>

> >

> >

> > ** This is not going to go away very much. You'll still be miserable a

couple of years from now. You went off too quickly. You can fix this by

reinstating the drug at the 25 mg. level. Then, wait until you feel " normal "

again. This should take only 1-4 days. After you have stabilized, let me know

and I'll help you with your next steps. If you're on the XR formulation,

please let me know.

> >

> > Believe me, you don't want to wait it out. It's more harmful than taking

the drug. Are you currently taking any other " psych drug " ?

> >

> > Btw, could you give a first name please? Even a false one will do. It's

really not possible to engage with a person when they don't have a name.

Thanks.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> >

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