Re: It does get better RIGHT??? (I am wondering the same thing)

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I am new to the group and new to diabetes. I just found out on Thursday that

I have it! I thought it was coming, but that didn't seem to help. I have

been so depressed and down since finding out. I am already on anti

depressants, but they aren't helping this depression. I know there are

millions of diabetics out there, but right now I feel so damn alone! My

husband is a source of support, but he wants to fix it, not console. I love

him dearly, but it doesn't help to hear, " look on the bright side, " and " just

diet and exercise and everything will be fine. " My Mom is the same as my

husband. (I married my Mom instead of my father LOL) My best friend who

lives 8 hours away was the most help, but hard to cry over the phone. I know

in my mind that yes, diet and exercise will help and there is a chance that I

won't even have to take the meds anymore once I lose enough weight. (I am 32

and overweight by the way) I know I brought this on myself by continuing to

be overweight, so I guess that is why I feel so depressed. I am feeling self

pity and sorry for myself! I am a damn statistic now. Now the food I eat

isn't a choice anymore. I have to eat the right things. I tried getting an

appt. with the dietitian, and it is going to be over 2 weeks before I can get

in to see her. Meanwhile I am feeling shunned and cast aside and completely

alone and wallowing in this disease. I know, I know...I am drowning in self

pity, woe is me!!!!

I guess the hardest thing right now is that I don't even know what to eat. I

know I am not supposed to eat sugar. That is easy enough considering I have

been doing low carb for about 4 months now. I lost weight on it then stopped

losing, but did maintain the weight loss. So I know how to avoid sugar and

sodas and cakes, candies etc. But what else? Can I eat a low carb diet and

improve my BG that way? Can I just continue low carbing and losing weight to

improve the BG? I am so lost. My dr. told me a lot, but nothing about diet.

He referred me to the dietitian for that, but what do I do between now and

them? Uggg!

Sorry to write such a long first post, but I truly don't know where else to

turn at this point. Thanks for reading and for any responses!

[Guest guest]

Hi, and while I don't have diabetes - I have reseached it alot since my family

has it and I'm close. My only real problem is high blood pressure which often

goes along with Type 2 diabetes.

If you are a type too, what they are telling you is right - losing weight allows

a lot of people to go off meds or take very little, it also does the same for

high blood pressure.

I ate anything I wanted for 40 years and still was very active and lifted

weights, as I do now at 65. They says that's why I'm not yet a type 2. At

about 50 years old I started getting high blood pressure.

I've done a lot of experimenting on myself and found that I can reduce my bp to

well under average - just by cutting the salt and sugar - salt way down from the

average diet.

There's a lot of different opinions here and on othe diabetes lists as to

whether you should eat carbs or not when diabetic - I can't say since I'm not

but Dr. Grim of the bloodpressureline list and a hypertension research professor

at the University of Wisconsin, studied under a well known researcher (Dr.

Kempner) at Duke University and he says the rapid weight loss of any very low

sodium diet cause diabetes to improve too, and in fact that's what it was

designed to do.

I'm about 35 pounds overweight and to lose may seem very hard to impossible for

someone a lot more overweight than that - however it can be done and any amount

will help. At your age you should easily be able to start a good workout

routine - start slow - walking more is the best - my wife is 54 and overweight

and we both run 2 - 3 miles on the treadmill most days, and both lift weights

and have for 20 years. I still need to do better though and slip up now and

then, just like most other people.

Wishing you the best and in most cases there's nothing to panic about. Type II

diabetes is manageable with weight loss and exercise. Cutting salt is one of

the best ways to get rid of extra fluids in the body - since fat is 85% water

I've read.

Keep us posted.

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Re: It does get better RIGHT??? (I am wondering the same

thing)

Hi,

I am new to the group and new to diabetes. I just found out on Thursday that

I have it! I thought it was coming, but that didn't seem to help. I have

been so depressed and down since finding out. I am already on anti

depressants, but they aren't helping this depression. I know there are

millions of diabetics out there, but right now I feel so damn alone! My

husband is a source of support, but he wants to fix it, not console. I love

him dearly, but it doesn't help to hear, " look on the bright side, " and " just

diet and exercise and everything will be fine. " My Mom is the same as my

husband. (I married my Mom instead of my father LOL) My best friend who

lives 8 hours away was the most help, but hard to cry over the phone. I know

in my mind that yes, diet and exercise will help and there is a chance that I

won't even have to take the meds anymore once I lose enough weight. (I am 32

and overweight by the way) I know I brought this on myself by continuing to

be overweight, so I guess that is why I feel so depressed. I am feeling self

pity and sorry for myself! I am a damn statistic now. Now the food I eat

isn't a choice anymore. I have to eat the right things. I tried getting an

appt. with the dietitian, and it is going to be over 2 weeks before I can get

in to see her. Meanwhile I am feeling shunned and cast aside and completely

alone and wallowing in this disease. I know, I know...I am drowning in self

pity, woe is me!!!!

I guess the hardest thing right now is that I don't even know what to eat. I

know I am not supposed to eat sugar. That is easy enough considering I have

been doing low carb for about 4 months now. I lost weight on it then stopped

losing, but did maintain the weight loss. So I know how to avoid sugar and

sodas and cakes, candies etc. But what else? Can I eat a low carb diet and

improve my BG that way? Can I just continue low carbing and losing weight to

improve the BG? I am so lost. My dr. told me a lot, but nothing about diet.

He referred me to the dietitian for that, but what do I do between now and

them? Uggg!

Sorry to write such a long first post, but I truly don't know where else to

turn at this point. Thanks for reading and for any responses!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I only joined this group today, but ur email just made

me sympathise.

I doubt anti-depressants will help with how ur feeling

with your diabetes. Time will help though. I've been

diabetic since I was 9 (I'm now nearly 23) and I think

in a way, it's easier getting it young cos then you

can adapt to it slightly easier. However, my Dad got

it when he was 40, and he thought it would change his

life in such a bad way, and it hasn't - he does

everything he wants to do, and controls the diabetes

rather than the other way round.

Experience will help you with it. It's early days now

isn't it?

Awww ur husband sounds like he's trying to help but

doesn't know what to do for the best?

So, is it Type 2 that you have? I don't agree that u

brought it on yourself - being overweight won't help,

but it's not your fault! There are plenty of people

who are overweight and don't get it, so it can't just

be that.

No, it's not really true (I don't think it is anyway)

that u can't eat sugar - it's just like any diet

really - everything but in moderation. It's just that

u can't go overboard on the sweet stuff now. And as

you say, uve been doing low carb for a while now

anyway.

I'm type 1, but I've read lots of diabetes waffle and

I know sodium (I think it's sodium) is supposed to

help with type 2. That brings ur BG down.

Unfortunately, I don't have much respect for doctors -

they're not diabetic and so they don't know. AS for

diet, I really do think it's everything in moderation

Between now and your dietician appointment, why don't

u try what you think might work, monitor ur BG and see

how it goes? You will learn by experience, not from

doctors. It sounds to me that you've already got a

good idea of what to do regarding diet

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[Guest guest]

The reason your doctor did not adivse you about nutrition is that he was

probably not competent to do so; nutrtition, believe it or not, is NOT a part of

the M.D. curriculum. Chiropracters, Naturopaths, and Homeopaths do take

nutrition; Allopaths do not; I'm not sure about Osteopaths.

Avoid potatoes, rice, pasta, and bread. You can eat small amounts of brown rice

and brown bread (and brown pasta, if you can find/make it). Avoid winter

squash, but summer squash is great; cruciates are especially good. Meats and

vegetables are good, but most of the vegetables should be ones that grow above

ground. Dairy is OK as long as you don't eat a lot. Nuts are great, as are

olives. Seafood is good.

There are so many good things that you may eat that, eventually, you will stop

missing those things which you cannot. Eventually, they won't even look good to

you.

Re: It does get better RIGHT??? (I am wondering the same

thing)

I guess the hardest thing right now is that I don't even know what to eat. I

know I am not supposed to eat sugar. That is easy enough considering I have

been doing low carb for about 4 months now. I lost weight on it then stopped

losing, but did maintain the weight loss. So I know how to avoid sugar and

sodas and cakes, candies etc. But what else? Can I eat a low carb diet and

improve my BG that way? Can I just continue low carbing and losing weight to

improve the BG? I am so lost. My dr. told me a lot, but nothing about diet.

He referred me to the dietitian for that, but what do I do between now and

them? Uggg!

[Guest guest]

More info: sulphur helps reduce BG. There are herbal

things with sulphur in. Apparently, Royal Jelly is an

aid for diabetes mellitus as well! So there you go!

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[Guest guest]

We have all gone through that, and this list is a great way to vent and get

support at the same time. My meals are 30-45 grams of carbs and snacks are

around 15 grams, so I don't know how low carb that is. I don't think no carb is

good. What I have learned is that a carb is a carb whether it is sugar, flour

veggie etc. The class I had said that it is just what carb you choose to eat,

where as something sweet you get less of a serving that something not so sweet,

or another way to look at it is that you can have a glass of OJ or a whole

orange so which is going to leave you filling more satisfied, The American

diabetes association web page has a lot of good information. I have the book

" diabetes for dummies " which also has a lot of good information also on diet.

Things will get better.

Denyse

I love you not because of who you are, but because of who I am when I am with

you

,-._,-.

\/) " (\/

(_o_)

ruff!!!!!!

Re: It does get better RIGHT??? (I am wondering the same

thing)

Hi,

I am new to the group and new to diabetes. I just found out on Thursday that

I have it! I thought it was coming, but that didn't seem to help. I have

been so depressed and down since finding out. I am already on anti

depressants, but they aren't helping this depression. I know there are

millions of diabetics out there, but right now I feel so damn alone! My

husband is a source of support, but he wants to fix it, not console. I love

him dearly, but it doesn't help to hear, " look on the bright side, " and " just

diet and exercise and everything will be fine. " My Mom is the same as my

husband. (I married my Mom instead of my father LOL) My best friend who

lives 8 hours away was the most help, but hard to cry over the phone. I know

in my mind that yes, diet and exercise will help and there is a chance that I

won't even have to take the meds anymore once I lose enough weight. (I am 32

and overweight by the way) I know I brought this on myself by continuing to

be overweight, so I guess that is why I feel so depressed. I am feeling self

pity and sorry for myself! I am a damn statistic now. Now the food I eat

isn't a choice anymore. I have to eat the right things. I tried getting an

appt. with the dietitian, and it is going to be over 2 weeks before I can get

in to see her. Meanwhile I am feeling shunned and cast aside and completely

alone and wallowing in this disease. I know, I know...I am drowning in self

pity, woe is me!!!!

I guess the hardest thing right now is that I don't even know what to eat. I

know I am not supposed to eat sugar. That is easy enough considering I have

been doing low carb for about 4 months now. I lost weight on it then stopped

losing, but did maintain the weight loss. So I know how to avoid sugar and

sodas and cakes, candies etc. But what else? Can I eat a low carb diet and

improve my BG that way? Can I just continue low carbing and losing weight to

improve the BG? I am so lost. My dr. told me a lot, but nothing about diet.

He referred me to the dietitian for that, but what do I do between now and

them? Uggg!

Sorry to write such a long first post, but I truly don't know where else to

turn at this point. Thanks for reading and for any responses!

[Guest guest]

Garlic has a high sulphur content, lower cholesterol and is good for a number of

other things - but it's also a blood thinner so those with thin blood shouldn't

take that or vitamin E or gingko.

Garlic also acts as a mild anti-biotic, anti viral. The enteric version doesn't

make a person stink as far as I've been able to tell. <G>

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Re: It does get better RIGHT??? (I am wondering the same

thing)

More info: sulphur helps reduce BG. There are herbal

things with sulphur in. Apparently, Royal Jelly is an

aid for diabetes mellitus as well! So there you go!

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/26/2003 11:02:54 AM Central Standard Time,

genna@... writes:

> Wishing you the best and in most cases there's nothing to panic about. Type

> II diabetes is manageable with weight loss and exercise. Cutting salt is

> one of the best ways to get rid of extra fluids in the body - since fat is

> 85% water I've read.

>

> Keep us posted.

> Hansen

Thanks for the words of encouragement. I do have type II mellitus.

I am already starting to feel better since reading posts here at the group

and doing some research online.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thank you for your response. I do have type II diabetes mellitus. I have

been reading all the posts and a lot of other stuff about diabetes online and

am starting to feel better about it. I know that I will be better in the

long run because I will lose weight which is something that I have needed to

do for years anyway

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/26/2003 11:42:36 AM Central Standard Time,

craden@... writes:

> I have the book " diabetes for dummies " which also has a lot of good

> information also on diet. Things will get better.

>

> Denyse

>

Thank you for your words Denyse. I think I will have to get that book! It

sounds right up my alley! lol

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/26/2003 11:21:32 AM Central Standard Time,

brucewilson@... writes:

> There are so many good things that you may eat that, eventually, you will

> stop missing those things which you cannot. Eventually, they won't even

> look good to you.

>

Thanks Bruce! From what you have said, it seems I have already been eating

the right things! I am feeling better the more I read and the more I hear

from all of you here on this list!