Food allergies [was Anyone reading Survival of the Sickest?]

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--- Jent Lynne <jentlynne@...> wrote:

> I have an allergy to beef (and dairy) -- get itchy and snuffley and

> brain fogged (don't have my lab sheet here to remember if its IgE or

> what). I've not normally eating organ meats (I'm working in chicken

> liver and hearts), but does anyone know if the same allergy response

> occurs from organ meats as it does from muscle meats? I'm assuming

> yes, but maybe not?

Jent,

Do you know what it is in the beef that you are allergic to? I would

guess that it's a particular protein if it's a true food allergy. I'm

no expert, but I've read that many food allergies may result from

improper digestion and leaky gut. The improper digestion does not

break down proteins properly into constituent amino acids and the

leaky gut allows the whole protein or large fragments to be absorbed

into the blood and then trigger an allergic reaction.

I'm at work eating lunch right now, so I don't have access to my

bookmarks at home to offer any links, but you might try googling.

From what I remember, you must not take painkillers like aspirin or

tylenol that can damage the intestinal lining and you may be able to

help repair the damage by eating probiotic live culture foods.

And of course, you need to get proper nutrition

I guess that's what you're working on with the liver.

Be sure to get organic chicken livers, as conventional chicken livers

are often contaminated with large amounts of arsenic from antibiotic feed.

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--- <oz4caster@...> wrote:

> Do you know what it is in the beef that you are allergic to? I would

> guess that it's a particular protein if it's a true food allergy. I'm

I'm guessing it was to protein, since that's all I'd eaten before my lab test.

Here's what I came up with from lab blood test (the " big " stuff, anyway):

IgE - Dairy & Beef (I hadn't eaten organ, so this was to muscle meat)

IgG - Gluten, Eggs

> no expert, but I've read that many food allergies may result from

> improper digestion and leaky gut. The improper digestion does not

> break down proteins properly into constituent amino acids and the

> leaky gut allows the whole protein or large fragments to be absorbed

> into the blood and then trigger an allergic reaction.

I've been working the last few years on healing leaky gut -- avoiding the

above foods, taking l-glutatime, avoiding tylenol/aspirin/Nsaids. That was all

I knew to do until recently, and just that alone has given me a LOT of good

results. For example, my " fibromyalgia " disappeared within a week of food

avoidance. My " chronic fatigue " is mostly gone.

But still not completely gone -- and I was still not feeling I'm getting

totally healed (or healed enough to go and do as I'd like, once again).

Then a few weeks ago someone here said something about Betaine-HCL, and

someone else said something about digestive enzymes. I got both that night

(the Betaine-HCL that I got also has fenugreek in it, because I wanted the

lower dose option - 500 - and the " plain " one started at 1,000).

I have NO idea if this is related to that or not, but completely unexpected

within 4 days of starting the HCL/digestive enzymes, the heart palpitations I

had been getting the last 9 months from from stress and exertion went away,

and I just felt " better " . I can't quite describe it, but in the same way even

now, my body just feels --- " better " . I've changed nothing else -- still

taking the glutamine, etc. So -- for whatever that's all worth. I can just

assume that something is working better in my digestion, and I'm getting

something (or something better) that I wasn't before?

> And of course, you need to get proper nutrition

> I guess that's what you're working on with the liver.

> Be sure to get organic chicken livers, as conventional chicken livers

> are often contaminated with large amounts of arsenic from antibiotic feed.

I have chicken livers and hearts in the freezer, now. Truthfully, the whole

idea grosses me out, and I'm working up to it (but haven't eaten them yet)

BUt I'll get there. 2 weeks ago I would have SWORN I'd never eat sauerkraut,

and today I'm actually loving it. So, I'll get there

Jent

" The greater part of what my neighbors call good, I believe in my soul to be

bad, and if I repent of anything, it is very likely to be my good behavior. What

demon possessed me that I behaved so well? " -Henry Thoreau

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--- Jent Lynne <jentlynne@...> wrote:

> I've been working the last few years on healing leaky gut --

> avoiding the above foods, taking l-glutatime, avoiding

> tylenol/aspirin/Nsaids. That was all I knew to do until recently,

> and just that alone has given me a LOT of good results. For example,

> my " fibromyalgia " disappeared within a week of food avoidance. My

> " chronic fatigue " is mostly gone.

Jent,

It sounds like you've made very good progress in improving your health.

> But still not completely gone -- and I was still not feeling I'm

> getting totally healed (or healed enough to go and do as I'd like,

> once again).

>

> Then a few weeks ago someone here said something about Betaine-HCL,

> and someone else said something about digestive enzymes. I got both

> that night (the Betaine-HCL that I got also has fenugreek in it,

> because I wanted the lower dose option - 500 - and the " plain " one

> started at 1,000).

>

> I have NO idea if this is related to that or not, but completely

> unexpected within 4 days of starting the HCL/digestive enzymes, the

> heart palpitations I had been getting the last 9 months from from

> stress and exertion went away, and I just felt " better " . I can't

> quite describe it, but in the same way even now, my body just feels

> --- " better " . I've changed nothing else -- still taking the

> glutamine, etc. So -- for whatever that's all worth. I can just

> assume that something is working better in my digestion, and I'm

> getting something (or something better) that I wasn't before?

Maybe since you have improved your digestion, you are absorbing more

of the nutrients you need. I suspect that mineral imbalances might be

a possible cause of the heart palpitations.

> I have chicken livers and hearts in the freezer, now. Truthfully,

> the whole idea grosses me out, and I'm working up to it (but haven't

> eaten them yet) But I'll get there. 2 weeks ago I would have

> SWORN I'd never eat sauerkraut, and today I'm actually loving it.

> So, I'll get there

I personally believe that you should not force yourself to eat foods

that you consider unpalatable. Many years ago I switched from butter

to margarine because I believed the false propaganda that it was

" healthier " . I never liked it. My wife didn't like it either and

refused to eat it. She stuck with butter. I wish I had been that way

too

On the other hand, good quality liver is a very nutrient dense food.

I remember as a child (in the late 1950's) my grandmother on the farm

used to dice chicken livers and put them in cream gravy made from the

chicken juices. It was good! I also remember that one of my

favorites was the fried chicken heart. I even remember chewing on

some " gizards " (stomach?), but I didn't like them as much. I don't

much care for the taste of plain liver, but mixed with other foods

it's not bad and in some cases makes the food taste even better.

Maybe it's something to do with complimentary nutrients?

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--- <oz4caster@...> wrote:

> Maybe since you have improved your digestion, you are absorbing more

> of the nutrients you need. I suspect that mineral imbalances might be

> a possible cause of the heart palpitations.

That could very well be!

> I personally believe that you should not force yourself to eat foods

> that you consider unpalatable. Many years ago I switched from butter

> to margarine because I believed the false propaganda that it was

> " healthier " . I never liked it. My wife didn't like it either and

> refused to eat it. She stuck with butter. I wish I had been that way

> too

Too true. However, I also come from a very limited food background. I never

ate garlic or onions, for example, until I was in my late 20s (though nothing

has stopped me from eating them since! I love them!). My family lived on (a

lot of) salt and chili pepper as their only spices, with a little bit of meat

(never organ meat), a little bit of a few vegees (corn, grean beans, peas --

what I now call " kid vegees " ) and a LOT of bread/gluten and dairy. A LOT of

bread/gluten and dairy! Which didn't work so well, considering that most of

us have turned out to have problems with gluten and dairy. And it also meant

(I am coming to understand now) that we got very little decent nutrition, even

when we were eating " well " .

Interestingly, though, my grandparents (who ate closer to the NT book, as they

were taught to eat) have made it all the way to their 90s now, and are pretty

darn healthy for having lasted so long (mentally sharp, etc). Yet their kids

(who ate " better " by eating closer to the SAD diet) have had far more

ailments. And *their* kids have had even more. And so on, all as related to

how far off we were from a diet of real nourishment.

Also of interest is that I am the only one who has actually gotten better --

meaning had reduction of ailments, or even elimination of ailments -- in my

family, and I'm also the only one who's been changing her diet toward a more

natural way of living. The others are relying on pharmacutical band-aids and

crutches, or just " living with it " -- often because they believe their M.D.s,

who tell them " this is all that can be done, and everything else is

dangerous! "

I had my run of doctors for years telling me that same nonsense -- and I

believed them for a long time. Until I started trying a few things in

desperation, and started feeling better. But they still tried to tell me

anything that didn't come from their prescription pad was " dangerous " (as if

their prescriptions weren't!!). One, after I told her I was doing more natural

eating now, like my ancestors did, actually went off on this rant about " Food

is poison! Food is poison! " Wow

> On the other hand, good quality liver is a very nutrient dense food.

> I remember as a child (in the late 1950's) my grandmother on the farm

> used to dice chicken livers and put them in cream gravy made from the

> chicken juices. It was good! I also remember that one of my

> favorites was the fried chicken heart. I even remember chewing on

> some " gizards " (stomach?), but I didn't like them as much. I don't

> much care for the taste of plain liver, but mixed with other foods

> it's not bad and in some cases makes the food taste even better.

> Maybe it's something to do with complimentary nutrients?

That could well be! I do make gravy on occasion. I will try adding some to

that. I thought about chicken heart in stir-fry. Anyone tried that before?

Jent

" The greater part of what my neighbors call good, I believe in my soul to be

bad, and if I repent of anything, it is very likely to be my good behavior. What

demon possessed me that I behaved so well? " -Henry Thoreau

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