Guest guest Posted May 4, 2001 Report Share Posted May 4, 2001 In a message dated 05-04-01 3:37:35 AM Central Daylight Time, ldawes@... writes: << Does anyone know of a case of colic in an unvaccinated child? >> Yes, caused by dairy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2001 Report Share Posted September 10, 2001 I have a friend from church that is a young lady of 26 and she has had diverticulitis all her life as far as she can remember. Are those the same. She would double over in pain? Ps - if you have candidas I was told by my ND that apples harbors alot of mold not to mention the sprays go right through the skin. My son avoids apples because they are a stored fruit and feed the candida. My dear husband can never eat apples even if i wash them in special stuff and has the same reaction . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Hi, folks. I know there was a thread about colic not too long ago, but I didn't pay much attention. Now my (breast-fed) 6-week-old granddaughter screams 3 hours a night, and my daughter-in-law is asking for advice . . . Thanks in advance! --Lalita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Thanks, Josie, for a thoughtful, extensive answer. It all makes a lot of sense. If my DIL's not able to make such radical changes, I think she should at least start enzymes and probiotics (especially since she did have antibiotics during labor). I hope she can successfully do these things--it's so stressful for their whole family! Best wishes, Lalita On Dec 5, 2005, at 11:09 AM, Josie Lecraw wrote: > Tell your DIL the first thing she should consider doing is severely > modifying her diet temporarily to see if it makes a difference (and it > likely will): etcetera, etcetera, etcetera . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 I like to share my colic experience while nursing my baby... My experience colic with my 1st child (my only colic experience) was at 6 weeks old. She just began to curl her legs up and scream. I felt helpless. I saught out LLL help, local lactation help, hospital help, baby hotline help. No answers were found. I then began to read EVERYTHING I could on the issue. I found a 2 paragraph article on hyperlactation syndrome in a very small booklet. This is where the Mother has a very large let-down and baby tries to keep up (and sometimes does with no trouble) with the flow of milk...has enough, pulls off the breast(often during let- down if baby can't handle the volume of milk) and shortly after shows colic symptoms. Or a baby may simply nurse for only a short time from one breast and feeling content finishes nursing, never even going to the other breast. In these cases, baby gets mostly foremilk and no or little hind milk, where the fat is. When this happens, the foremilk dumps quickly from baby's stomach into the small intestine causing MUCH discomfort, curls legs up, cries, screams, etc. Unpon the birth of my 1st child, my ped. told me to nurse 15 minutes from one side and 15 minutes from the other and then " cut baby off " . That's it. We don't want mom to be " lopsided " now do we......:{ said my ped. Can you believe it? My baby didn't want more than 5 - 10 minues anywho, because she was a small premie. After finding this out I began to nurse my baby on one breast per feeding. Durning my massive let-downs I would take her off for a minute and collect some milk for storage. She would then finish up her feeding on the same breast receiving the hind milk. This fixed my baby's colic problem from the VERY 1st time I did this. Memories are just rushing back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Non of my three kids had it but I did what my Grandma's Grandma did ( she was a midwife). We didn't let the baby go outside uncovered. One time, with my first daughter we didn't cover her from the car to the house and she was the fussiest I had ever seen her for a while afterwards. I can't say there was for sure a correlation but it was enough to make us always remember after that. But that's just my experience. Jenna Forbes"SuperMommy" From: "mensrea320@..." <mensrea320@...>Vaccinations Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 12:07:31 PMSubject: colic wondering if anyone's kids on this list who are unvaxed ever had colic? did not have colic. Just wondering if it's another wonderful side effect of vaccines. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 My son had colic, and is completely unvaccinated. Food allergies!! From: Mrs. Forbes <mommyforbes@...>Subject: Re: colicVaccinations Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 4:33 PM Non of my three kids had it but I did what my Grandma's Grandma did ( she was a midwife). We didn't let the baby go outside uncovered. One time, with my first daughter we didn't cover her from the car to the house and she was the fussiest I had ever seen her for a while afterwards. I can't say there was for sure a correlation but it was enough to make us always remember after that. But that's just my experience. Jenna Forbes"SuperMommy" From: "mensrea320@ aol.com" <mensrea320aol (DOT) com>VaccinationsSent: Sat, January 30, 2010 12:07:31 PMSubject: colic wondering if anyone's kids on this list who are unvaxed ever had colic? did not have colic. Just wondering if it's another wonderful side effect of vaccines. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Colic can come from vaccines as well as other issues: inherited disturbances and susceptibilities emotional issues acquired in gestation and labor/delivery and post delivery breastmilk issues homeopathy can treat it very well also cranial sacral work also can help to align the plates in the skull and align the spine (very gentle) after disturbed from birth. I would suggest so-called food allergies may be for some of the above reasons also and not true allergies that nothing can be done about. Sheri At 06:17 PM 1/30/2010, you wrote: My son had colic, and is completely unvaccinated. Food allergies!! From: Mrs. Forbes <mommyforbes@...> Subject: Re: colic Vaccinations Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 4:33 PM Non of my three kids had it but I did what my Grandma's Grandma did ( she was a midwife). We didn't let the baby go outside uncovered. One time, with my first daughter we didn't cover her from the car to the house and she was the fussiest I had ever seen her for a while afterwards. I can't say there was for sure a correlation but it was enough to make us always remember after that. But that's just my experience. Jenna Forbes " SuperMommy " From: " mensrea320@ aol.com " <mensrea320aol (DOT) com> Vaccinations Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 12:07:31 PM Subject: colic wondering if anyone's kids on this list who are unvaxed ever had colic? did not have colic. Just wondering if it's another wonderful side effect of vaccines. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 If I may ask what kinds of breastmilk issues? I take care of my neighbor's baby & have noticed his colic is far worse after having breastmilk as oppposed to formula. We switched him to lactose free formula and that was when I noticed it. He is completely unvaxed. Namaste. - >> Colic can come from vaccines as well as other issues:> inherited disturbances and susceptibilities> emotional issues acquired in gestation and labor/delivery and post delivery> breastmilk issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 If mother is eating foods that baby is sensitive to, dairy, garlic,spicy foods etc., foods that usually cause sensitivities in adults also cause in infants. Some Peds will say that you cannot pass food to the baby, (yeah right). I cut out all dairy of about a month and started introducing it back into the diet little by little later on. Babies tummies are sensitive and protiens in milk are harsh. Be careful switching to formula if in fact mom does want to BF the baby, her milk supply will drop and baby will end up only having formula. If you are using a lactose free formula, did mom try cutting lactose/dairy from her diet for a few days? Chamomile tea through a medicine dropper will help sooth infants stomach, probiotics for baby help tremendously, homeopathic remedy for colic, stomach massage for baby, chiropractors that work with infants, so much you can do before switching to formula. Also goats milk is the closest thing to human breast milk they have a recipe I believe on kellymom.com. kellymom.com is a fabulous website to direct her to and yourself since you are keeping the baby. It has numerous ways to help with colic. Also she can call her local La Leche League Chapter, they are very knowledgeable and can help. It is so easy for a pediatrician who generally hasn't been taught properly about BFing and other outside sources to offer formula as a quick fix. Breast is best for baby as well as mama. Sometimes the best way isn't always the easiest. In times such as these a BFing mama needs extra support from everyone around her. Also getting with people who support BFing and are educated about it will do wonders for her as well as baby. I sure hope things work out for mama and baby. Peace- le > > > > Colic can come from vaccines as well as other issues: > > inherited disturbances and susceptibilities > > emotional issues acquired in gestation and labor/delivery and post > delivery > > breastmilk issues > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 not personally but I know someone who's child did, she had to do an elimination diet with him and mega doses of fish oil (highly tested) and probiotics. colic is a side effect with vaccines. Peace- le > > wondering if anyone's kids on this list who are unvaxed ever had colic? > did not have colic. Just wondering if it's another wonderful side > effect of vaccines. > > Holly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I've read that colic may be caused by drinking cow's milk during pregnancy. My daughter is vaxed and had colic. I drank cow's milk like crazy with her. My son was partially vaxed and I never drank cow's milk with him and he wasn't colic. So I wonder if it's that but not sure.Sent on the Now Network™ from my Sprint® BlackBerryFrom: Meghan Nolan <smitty9810@...>Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:17:10 -0800 (PST)<Vaccinations >Subject: Re: colic My son had colic, and is completely unvaccinated. Food allergies!! From: Mrs. Forbes <mommyforbes >Subject: Re: colicVaccinations Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 4:33 PM Non of my three kids had it but I did what my Grandma's Grandma did ( she was a midwife). We didn't let the baby go outside uncovered. One time, with my first daughter we didn't cover her from the car to the house and she was the fussiest I had ever seen her for a while afterwards. I can't say there was for sure a correlation but it was enough to make us always remember after that. But that's just my experience. Jenna Forbes"SuperMommy"From: "mensrea320@ aol.com" <mensrea320aol (DOT) com>VaccinationsSent: Sat, January 30, 2010 12:07:31 PMSubject: colic wondering if anyone's kids on this list who are unvaxed ever had colic? did not have colic. Just wondering if it's another wonderful side effect of vaccines. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 My completely unvaxed son had horrible colic for months on end - no food allergies that we could find. He had a completely natural birth, no antibiotics, nothing. Never did figure it out. He was the classic high-needs baby - needed lots of holding, patting, singing, rocking, etc. to be calm. Melinda C. > > Non of my three kids had it but I did what my Grandma's Grandma did ( she was a midwife). We didn't let the baby go outside uncovered. One time, with my first daughter we didn't cover her from the car to the house and she was the fussiest I had ever seen her for a while afterwards. I can't say there was for sure a correlation but it was enough to make us always remember after that. But that's just my experience. >  Jenna Forbes > > " SuperMommy " > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: " mensrea320@... " <mensrea320@...> > Vaccinations > Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 12:07:31 PM > Subject: colic > >  > wondering if anyone's kids on this list who are unvaxed ever had colic? did not have colic. Just wondering if it's another wonderful side effect of vaccines. > > Holly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 My unvaxed Godson had pretty bad colic. She had a difficult birth with him but also had cranial sacral work done shortly afterwards. I think in his case, he was very sensitive to cow's milk. The mother nursed for a few months but never cut dairy out and she herself had horrible stomach problems as a child from milk. She switched him to hypoallergenic formula and the colic went away. I was really sad that she didn't just try eliminating dairy while continuing to breastfeed first; she weaned him so young but I am so happy she never vaxed him. Jodi colic wondering if anyone's kids on this list who are unvaxed ever had colic? did not have colic. Just wondering if it's another wonderful side effect of vaccines. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I have unvaccinated twins and my son had colic/gas problems and my daughter did not. I did drink/eat dairy products while pregnant. I had a planned c-section as my daughter was breech and my OB told me if I had a singleton she would be ok with natural. So either have the planned c or if there were complications because of the multiples then I would need to have an emergency which meant anestheshia. I had always thought/wondered that could have caused him some of problems. The doctors had a hard time with him. I did give up dairy when able to give them breastmilk (did have to supplement) and that helped. I also read how rooibos tea was used to help babies with colic and it did. So I would feed him roobios tea or fennel tea (which is what my grandparents gave to my uncle) when he was having problems. Lorelei > > > > Colic can come from vaccines as well as other issues: > > inherited disturbances and susceptibilities > > emotional issues acquired in gestation and labor/delivery and post > delivery > > breastmilk issues > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 At 09:13 PM 1/30/2010, you wrote: If I may ask what kinds of breastmilk issues? I take care of my neighbor's baby & have noticed his colic is far worse after having breastmilk as oppposed to formula. We switched him to lactose free formula and that was when I noticed it. He is completely unvaxed. Namaste. - Things mother is eating Sheri Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA Vaccines - http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start February 24 & 25 http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 homeopathy could have helped him......and you.......................I would guess Sheri At 06:07 AM 1/31/2010, you wrote: >My completely unvaxed son had horrible colic for >months on end - no food allergies that we could >find. He had a completely natural birth, no >antibiotics, nothing. Never did figure it out. >He was the classic high-needs baby - needed lots >of holding, patting, singing, rocking, etc. to be calm. > >Melinda C. > > > > > Non of my three kids had it but I did what my > Grandma's Grandma did ( she was a midwife). We > didn't let the baby go outside uncovered. One > time, with my first daughter we didn't cover > her from the car to the house and she was the > fussiest I had ever seen her for a while > afterwards. I can't say there was for sure a > correlation but it was enough to make us always > remember after that. But that's just my experience. > >  Jenna Forbes > > > > " SuperMommy " > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I have been researching 'lead' toxicity. Colic is a classical sign of this...Pregnancy is a great stressor and would release lead from the bones which crosses the placenta. I know this is not nice to learn but I learned the hard way. My daughter's lead levels were way above normal range and I am only just coming to grips with this 10 years later. She had dreadful tummy cramps at the time the elevated blood lead levels were confirmed. Sheri Nakken schrieb: > > homeopathy could have helped him......and > you.......................I would guess > Sheri > > At 06:07 AM 1/31/2010, you wrote: > > >My completely unvaxed son had horrible colic for > >months on end - no food allergies that we could > >find. He had a completely natural birth, no > >antibiotics, nothing. Never did figure it out. > >He was the classic high-needs baby - needed lots > >of holding, patting, singing, rocking, etc. to be calm. > > > >Melinda C. > > > > > > > > Non of my three kids had it but I did what my > > Grandma's Grandma did ( she was a midwife). We > > didn't let the baby go outside uncovered. One > > time, with my first daughter we didn't cover > > her from the car to the house and she was the > > fussiest I had ever seen her for a while > > afterwards. I can't say there was for sure a > > correlation but it was enough to make us always > > remember after that. But that's just my experience. > > >  Jenna Forbes > > > > > > " SuperMommy " > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2659 - Release Date: 01/31/10 06:39:00 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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