Guest guest Posted September 23, 1999 Report Share Posted September 23, 1999 hi all, dont quote me but if i rmember correctly h.pyloir once diagnosied by biospy form stomach is treated with a combination of medicaitons including antibiotic,peptalbismol , and /or something else... *** hah, and mds taught for years ulcers thought to be all due to stress and now.:medicaitons course of treatement can permanenly cure it somish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 1999 Report Share Posted September 23, 1999 Yes, and this was discovered by accident, not a research study! Theresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 1999 Report Share Posted September 25, 1999 Hi, I had blood test done to diagnose this. It was negative even though I do have ulcers. Christie At 11:05 AM 9/25/99 -0500, you wrote: >From: dlsherman@... > >hi suzy! > >i'm not real sure, but i think there's a breath test. > ><<< also I thought i just read a non invasive test for H.Pylori ? >>> > >@}{~{<<~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >debbie s. - dlsherman@... > >>This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 I was told that it is very common for it to come back if you've had it once. I never heard of the breath test mine was diagnosed with blood work one time and a stool sample another time but I don't know everything so probably someone else could help you better. the WV hillbilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 crayfishfeed wrote: > My friend's test results came back and he tested positive for H.pylori. > Does anyone know what a good rememdy for that would be. I have seen > the mention of bismuth in readings but where would one buy that? > Pepto Bismol, perhaps? --s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Glutathione is helpful for H.plyori - there is a book out called Glutathione that talks about it. A friend's husband cleared his up with a carb-free diet. He was not originally a healthy eater. Toni crayfishfeed wrote: > My friend's test results came back and he tested positive for H.pylori. > Does anyone know what a good rememdy for that would be. I have seen > the mention of bismuth in readings but where would one buy that? > Pepto Bismol, perhaps? --s ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers. and get answers from real people who know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 --- <crayfishfeed@...> wrote: > My friend's test results came back and he tested positive for H.pylori. > Does anyone know what a good rememdy for that would be. Lots of probiotics! Kefir, yogurt, kombucha, fermented foods, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 On 1/11/07, crayfishfeed <crayfishfeed@...> wrote: > My friend's test results came back and he tested positive for H.pylori. > Does anyone know what a good rememdy for that would be. I have seen > the mention of bismuth in readings but where would one buy that? In the test tube, lauric acid and monolaurin will completely destroy an H. pylori culture. In milk fat (to a lesser degree) or coconut oil (to a greater degree), the triglycerides containing these two molecules within them are broken down my enzymes in your saliva. So large doses of coconut oil might be a helpful addition. Also, it might be good to swish with it or chew the food it is cooked in very well to make sure enough gets broken down from saliva while still in the stomach. Chris -- The Truth About Cholesterol Find Out What Your Doctor Isn't Telling You: http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 s. boulardii, a non-colonizing yeast is very good against it - protects the lining of the gi in two ways from the toxins from the h. pylori and at the same time out-competes it for nutrients. It's becoming a treatment of choice in Europe. It occurs naturally as the bluish blush on cabbage and some fruits, and is in sauerkraut/kimchi if the outer leaves of the cabbage are used. You can buy it from www.myvitanet.com. > > My friend's test results came back and he tested positive for H.pylori. > Does anyone know what a good rememdy for that would be. I have seen > the mention of bismuth in readings but where would one buy that? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Hi I think that Hpb can regenerate with gum disease or if you are a mouth breather. I think it has something to do with the air bypassing the nasal mucus and hairs so it is not filtered to remove bacteria etc. This is one reason holistic dentists are so keen on not only good dental health, but also ensuring their is a constant airway for proper nose breathing. It may be worth seeing a good NON NHS and HOlistic dentist and perhaps also seeing a cranial osteopath to ensure air way is working to support nasal breathing. Also putting a pinch of bicarb of soda under your tongue 3 to 4 times a day may help alkalise your blood which kills bacteria and also look to avoid acid foods such as processed carbs like white flour, sugar, dairy, eggs and meat...( I know it seems like everything in a normal diet however. there are a few foods left after this which your body would love.... fresh fish, veggies and limited amounts of fresh fruit together with nuts.( soaked overnight in filtered water) and my favourite mung beans.. soaked ovenight and then made into a delicious stew served with white basmati rice.. That it keeps returning sounds to me like it is a acidic body which is supporting the lifestyle of these acid loving bacteria. best wishes Tracey On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 5:32 PM, melissa easthope <m.easthope@...> wrote: hi, i wondering if anyone has info on h.pylori bacterium, i suffer from this have been diagonised with it 3 times since september each time i took antibodies and probiotics the last cause of treatment i don't think worked as i still have symptoms and was very painfull had to double reflux medication as a result, just wondering why this infection keeps returning what is the natural way to kill it off also i think maybe ds may have it he has lots of wind lately aslo does anyone know exactly what bateria/yeasts oxypowder has ds has had lots of bacteria related bad behaviors aggressive violent lack of sleep etc but only calms when he has oxypowder and only for a few a hours any info appreciated just trying to figure things out melissaxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 hi you may find more on this on the LIA foundation borrelia list that dr DK suggests what to do for this ..other places to look are biopureurope.com Isobel > > hi, i wondering if anyone has info on h.pylori bacterium, i suffer from this have been diagonised with it 3 times since september each time i took antibodies and probiotics the last cause of treatment i don't think worked as i still have symptoms and was very painfull had to double reflux medication as a result, just wondering why this infection keeps returning what is the natural way to kill it off also i think maybe ds may have it he has lots of wind lately aslo does anyone know exactly what bateria/yeasts oxypowder has ds has had lots of bacteria related bad behaviors aggressive violent lack of sleep etc but only calms when he has oxypowder and only for a few a hours any info appreciated just trying to figure things out > > melissaxx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Hi Has anyone suffered from h.pylori infection? and did anyone get rid of it natural way without taking the antibiotics? I have h. pylori and took triple therapy antibiotics, but I still have it and can't seem to get rid of it. It has caused me such discomfort that I have difficult time eating now. I don't want to take antibiotics again! Also, does anyone know if having the implant makes me susceptible to h. pylori? Thanks Sunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 h.pylori is a gut issue and it grows in the stomach lining. It is a bacteria. The conditions in your stomach is what makes you susceptible.LizFrom: Sun Lee <sunloves@...> Sent: Wed, June 16, 2010 3:32:08 PMSubject: Re: h.pylori Hi Has anyone suffered from h.pylori infection? and did anyone get rid of it natural way without taking the antibiotics? I have h. pylori and took triple therapy antibiotics, but I still have it and can't seem to get rid of it. It has caused me such discomfort that I have difficult time eating now. I don't want to take antibiotics again! Also, does anyone know if having the implant makes me susceptible to h. pylori? Thanks Sunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 These are good questions....would like answers too! I know Lea suffered from h.pylori, and PH did too...not sure who else. PH always has good info....I think she might know the answers. Patty > > Hi > Has anyone suffered from h.pylori infection? and did anyone get rid of it natural way without taking the antibiotics? > I have h. pylori and took triple therapy antibiotics, but I still have it and can't seem to get rid of it. It has caused me such discomfort that I have difficult time eating now. I don't want to take antibiotics again! > > Also, does anyone know if having the implant makes me susceptible to h. pylori? > > Thanks > Sunny > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Hi Sunny, I have h pylori. Am currently reading an ebook by Hompes on how to cure it naturally. Google his name and h pylori and you will find several articles and free videos by him. He cured himself of it. Yes, I think implants can cause h pylori overgrowth. We all have h pylori in our bodies to begin with. It doesn't cause a problem for most people because the body knows how to regulate parasites through the thyroid hormone and other natural detox mechanisms. When we put implants in the body, the body has to work at fighting off a foreign object. This increases cortisol and so the body is not able to excrete/detox the pathogens like h pylori because it's too busy with the implants. Add in the chemicals and metals from the implants and you create a perfect environment for h pylori and other bacteria to grow. It becomes a vicious cycle until the body is burdened...the chemicals, infections, and metals prevent the thyroid hormone in the gut from being used. Gut motility slows down as a result which causes even more parasitic, bacterial and fungal overgrowth. PH > > Hi > Has anyone suffered from h.pylori infection? and did anyone get rid of it natural way without taking the antibiotics? > I have h. pylori and took triple therapy antibiotics, but I still have it and can't seem to get rid of it. It has caused me such discomfort that I have difficult time eating now. I don't want to take antibiotics again! > > Also, does anyone know if having the implant makes me susceptible to h. pylori? > > Thanks > Sunny > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 I think you are right. The doctor told me I have overgrowth of bacteria. Hompes used Matula tea. I am going to try it, but it's the implant that has to come out. For now, I can't have the surgery until the end of this year so I will have to work on the h. pylori. I ordered matula tea (expensive) and will let you know if that really kills the h. pylori Symptoms of h.pylori for me are breathlessness, dizziness, brain fog, fatique, stomach pain, gerd, overall digestive problems, weakness, IBS Thanks Sunny From: perfecthealth68 <perfecthealth68@...> Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 8:59:03 AMSubject: Re: h.pylori Hi Sunny,I have h pylori. Am currently reading an ebook by Hompes on how to cure it naturally. Google his name and h pylori and you will find several articles and free videos by him. He cured himself of it.Yes, I think implants can cause h pylori overgrowth. We all have h pylori in our bodies to begin with. It doesn't cause a problem for most people because the body knows how to regulate parasites through the thyroid hormone and other natural detox mechanisms. When we put implants in the body, the body has to work at fighting off a foreign object. This increases cortisol and so the body is not able to excrete/detox the pathogens like h pylori because it's too busy with the implants. Add in the chemicals and metals from the implants and you create a perfect environment for h pylori and other bacteria to grow. It becomes a vicious cycle until the body is burdened...the chemicals, infections, and metals prevent the thyroid hormone in the gut from being used. Gut motility slows down as a result which causes even more parasitic, bacterial and fungal overgrowth.PH>> Hi> Has anyone suffered from h.pylori infection? and did anyone get rid of it natural way without taking the antibiotics?> I have h. pylori and took triple therapy antibiotics, but I still have it and can't seem to get rid of it. It has caused me such discomfort that I have difficult time eating now. I don't want to take antibiotics again!> > Also, does anyone know if having the implant makes me susceptible to h. pylori?> > Thanks> Sunny> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Hi Sunny, Those are my same symptoms too. I am ordering the matula tea too...wish it wasn't so expensive but they do guarantee it. PH > > > > Hi > > Has anyone suffered from h.pylori infection? and did anyone get rid of it natural way without taking the antibiotics? > > I have h. pylori and took triple therapy antibiotics, but I still have it and can't seem to get rid of it. It has caused me such discomfort that I have difficult time eating now. I don't want to take antibiotics again! > >  > > Also, does anyone know if having the implant makes me susceptible to h. pylori? > > > > Thanks > > Sunny > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Hi, PH Yes, having too much of these h.pylori can drain you out. They said there are over 6 strains of these bacteria so the antibiotics cannot kill all of these bacteria and is not effective. My antibiotic treatment did not work. Hompes also recommends using Gastromend with Broccomax in combination with Matula tea. I heard for lot of people 30 days is not enough, but 60 days worked. Please see below two items that he recommended to take it together. Make sure you do a stool antigen test about 4 weeks after treatment to confirm that they are dead. http://www.rockwellnutrition.com/GastroMend-HP-previously-GastroSoothe-HP-by-Designs-For-Health-DFH_p_1459.html http://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulations-Broccomax-250mg-Capsules/dp/B0013OVTM0 Thanks Sunny From: perfecthealth68 <perfecthealth68@...> Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 12:50:24 PMSubject: Re: h.pylori Hi Sunny,Those are my same symptoms too. I am ordering the matula tea too...wish it wasn't so expensive but they do guarantee it.PH> >> > Hi> > Has anyone suffered from h.pylori infection? and did anyone get rid of it natural way without taking the antibiotics?> > I have h. pylori and took triple therapy antibiotics, but I still have it and can't seem to get rid of it. It has caused me such discomfort that I have difficult time eating now. I don't want to take antibiotics again!> >  > > Also, does anyone know if having the implant makes me susceptible to h. pylori?> > > > Thanks> > Sunny> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Thanks for the info Sunny! Am curious if you took a proton pump inhibitor when you did the antibiotics? What I've read is that the antibiotics don't work because there is too much acid in the gut and that if a PPI is used it can help the antibiotics become more effective. Regardless, I have yet to find any recovery stories from the antibiotics so I'll probably go Hompes' route and/or Kopera's. Early on I went on Xifaxan which (according to my doc) said that it would kill everything in my gut. He was right about that...destroyed all my beneficial bacteria and that's when I developed optic neuritis. The side effects from that drug seemed to be worse than the h pylori so I am very hesitant to use antibiotics. Good luck! PH > > > > > > Hi > > > Has anyone suffered from h.pylori infection? and did anyone get rid of it natural way without taking the antibiotics? > > > I have h. pylori and took triple therapy antibiotics, but I still have it and can't seem to get rid of it. It has caused me such discomfort that I have difficult time eating now. I don't want to take antibiotics again! > > >  > > > Also, does anyone know if having the implant makes me susceptible to h. pylori? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Sunny > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 I did take the PPI, which was not pleasant. I went through 14 days of misery, but the h. pylori came back stronger than ever making me more sick and I also developed gastritis afterwards. It worsened my symtoms. I'd not try antibiotic therapy anymore...my family doctor said that triple therapy is outdated and doesn't work. Currently, I've been eating broccoli sprouts every morning and drinking coconut juice and it seems to be hepling as my symptoms are better. I've eliminated gluten, flour etc from my diet too. I've ordered Matula tea and will try it for 30 days with broccomax and gastromend as recommended by Hompes. I will let you know what happens. If your beneficial bateria is dead make sure you take probiotics or you can develop other symptoms I used five-lac and three-lac and five-lac is very good probiotics. It also gets rid of candida. They need to be taken religiously for about 30 days straight. From: perfecthealth68 <perfecthealth68@...> Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 6:20:47 PMSubject: Re: h.pylori Thanks for the info Sunny! Am curious if you took a proton pump inhibitor when you did the antibiotics? What I've read is that the antibiotics don't work because there is too much acid in the gut and that if a PPI is used it can help the antibiotics become more effective. Regardless, I have yet to find any recovery stories from the antibiotics so I'll probably go Hompes' route and/or Kopera's.Early on I went on Xifaxan which (according to my doc) said that it would kill everything in my gut. He was right about that...destroyed all my beneficial bacteria and that's when I developed optic neuritis. The side effects from that drug seemed to be worse than the h pylori so I am very hesitant to use antibiotics.Good luck!PH> > >> > > Hi> > > Has anyone suffered from h.pylori infection? and did anyone get rid of it natural way without taking the antibiotics?> > > I have h. pylori and took triple therapy antibiotics, but I still have it and can't seem to get rid of it. It has caused me such discomfort that I have difficult time eating now. I don't want to take antibiotics again!> > >  > > > Also, does anyone know if having the implant makes me susceptible to h. pylori?> > > > > > Thanks> > > Sunny> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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