Important question

June 2, 2006

Does anyone know of any foods that increase saliva in your mouth? As a

result of my deranged adrenals and thyroid I don't produce enough

saliva and it is by far the worst discomfort I ever felt and this

includes a broken collarbone and other uncomfortable things I have

experienced. My tongue can feel like a dry rock in my mouth and my

upper lip sticks to my teeth. I have read about over-the-counter

artificial saliva, but I'd rather use something natural. Any thoughts?

June 2, 2006

I don't know about increasing salive, but to help ease the discomfort I'd

use an infusion of mallow as a mouth rince.

On 6/2/06, crayfishfeed <crayfishfeed@...> wrote:

>

> Does anyone know of any foods that increase saliva in your mouth? As a

> result of my deranged adrenals and thyroid I don't produce enough

> saliva and it is by far the worst discomfort I ever felt and this

> includes a broken collarbone and other uncomfortable things I have

> experienced. My tongue can feel like a dry rock in my mouth and my

> upper lip sticks to my teeth. I have read about over-the-counter

> artificial saliva, but I'd rather use something natural. Any thoughts?

>

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June 2, 2006

>

> Does anyone know of any foods that increase saliva in your mouth? As a

> result of my deranged adrenals and thyroid I don't produce enough

> saliva and it is by far the worst discomfort I ever felt...

Crayfish,

Is it just lack of saliva in the mouth,or are all the mucus membranes,

like eyes and nasal passages, etc, dry?

B.

June 2, 2006

Salt is good for the thyroid and adrenals and seems to decrease

dryness in other areas, like people using the salt pipe for dry

nasal passages.

Japanese say eating umeboshi increases saliva. It's a sour

fermented plum. Pretty good once you get used to the strong flavor.

>

> Does anyone know of any foods that increase saliva in your mouth?

As a

> result of my deranged adrenals and thyroid I don't produce enough

> saliva and it is by far the worst discomfort I ever felt and this

> includes a broken collarbone and other uncomfortable things I have

> experienced. My tongue can feel like a dry rock in my mouth and my

> upper lip sticks to my teeth. I have read about over-the-counter

> artificial saliva, but I'd rather use something natural. Any

thoughts?

>

June 2, 2006

On 6/2/06, crayfishfeed wrote:

>

> > Crayfish,

> > Is it just lack of saliva in the mouth,or are all the mucus

> membranes,

> > like eyes and nasal passages, etc, dry?

> > B.

> Well, the interesting thing is that my eyes were getting more

> sensitive to my contacts over the months, also my nasal passages but I

> wasn't putting it together. At the same time I had what I thought was

> thirst but in the end I realized I wasn't drinking b/c I was thirsty,

> I was drinking b/c my tongue was dry and I thought that was thirst

> which might explain why the florinef Dr. Rind prescribed for me wasn't

> working. It wasn't until I read in my dentist's book that people with

> a bad thyroid dry up essentially and then everything clicked.

>

Have you looked into Sjogren's? Heid had that before she went gluten free.

Steph

June 2, 2006

I have to ask how much you were eating when " accidentally " lost 40 pounds. I

would like to accidentally lose 50-60 pounds and I eat coconut oil everyday. So

I am wondering if maybe I am not eating enough.

Allyn

Re: Important question

have you tried sea salt/seawater? They tend to increase digestive

secretions of all kinds. As far a thyroid issue goes, I don't know,

but I managed to accidentally lose 40 lbs while eating a lot of

coconut a couple of years back. I swear by coconut and coconut oil.

But that's just me.

>

> > Crayfish,

> > Is it just lack of saliva in the mouth,or are all the mucus

> membranes,

> > like eyes and nasal passages, etc, dry?

> > B.

> Well, the interesting thing is that my eyes were getting more

> sensitive to my contacts over the months, also my nasal passages

but I

> wasn't putting it together. At the same time I had what I thought

was

> thirst but in the end I realized I wasn't drinking b/c I was

thirsty,

> I was drinking b/c my tongue was dry and I thought that was thirst

> which might explain why the florinef Dr. Rind prescribed for me

wasn't

> working. It wasn't until I read in my dentist's book that people

with

> a bad thyroid dry up essentially and then everything clicked.

>

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> Have you looked into Sjogren's? Heid had that before she went

gluten free.

I think that's an autoimmune disease, do you know what she did for

it? Everything I'm dealing with is along those lines, like with my

adrenals and thyroid. I guess I'm starting with the filling removal,

which is frustrating b/c it keeps getting pushed back for various

reasons. My last hope is that everything comes on board when I get

them out if it's not too late.

June 2, 2006

Allyn,

> I have to ask how much you were eating when " accidentally " lost 40 pounds. I

would like to accidentally lose 50-60 pounds and I eat coconut oil everyday. So

I am wondering if maybe I am not eating enough.

How much coconut oil are you eating? The therapeutic dose is usually

considered six tablespoons, not teaspoons, per day in divided doses.

If you're using a lot less, you should go up gradually. By far the

easiest way to work this into the diet I have found is Sally Fallon's

suggestion to dissolve up to two tablespoons in warm water or tea and

drink it before a meal.

Of course, coconut oil isn't the be-all or end-all of weight loss.

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June 2, 2006

On 6/2/06, crayfishfeed <crayfishfeed@...> wrote:

> I think that's an autoimmune disease, do you know what she did for

> it? Everything I'm dealing with is along those lines, like with my

> adrenals and thyroid. I guess I'm starting with the filling removal,

> which is frustrating b/c it keeps getting pushed back for various

> reasons. My last hope is that everything comes on board when I get

> them out if it's not too late.

I had psoriasis, which is an autoimmune disease. At first, I thought

it was from use of a hair gel I used for a little while, but

eventually I realized that around the time it started was after I had

stopped using liver and cod liver oil for a while, so I surmised that

vitamin A deficiency may have initiated it.

When I decided to try high-dose vitamin A, my psoriasis was so bad

that I had bloody scabs on the edge of my forehead. In a matter of a

few weeks, ~90,000 IU vitamin A per day, 2/3 from high-vitamin cod

liver oil and 1/3 from daily liver for breakfast, eliminated the

psoriasis.

Chris

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June 3, 2006

You could try swedish bitters.

Christa

>

> Does anyone know of any foods that increase saliva in your mouth? As

a

> result of my deranged adrenals and thyroid I don't produce enough

> saliva and it is by far the worst discomfort I ever felt and this

> includes a broken collarbone and other uncomfortable things I have

> experienced. My tongue can feel like a dry rock in my mouth and my

> upper lip sticks to my teeth. I have read about over-the-counter

> artificial saliva, but I'd rather use something natural. Any thoughts?

>

June 3, 2006

I eat 2-4 tablespoons a day so maybe I will up it to 6.

Allyn

Re: Re: Important question

Allyn,

> I have to ask how much you were eating when " accidentally " lost 40 pounds.

I would like to accidentally lose 50-60 pounds and I eat coconut oil everyday.

So I am wondering if maybe I am not eating enough.

How much coconut oil are you eating? The therapeutic dose is usually

considered six tablespoons, not teaspoons, per day in divided doses.

If you're using a lot less, you should go up gradually. By far the

easiest way to work this into the diet I have found is Sally Fallon's

suggestion to dissolve up to two tablespoons in warm water or tea and

drink it before a meal.

Of course, coconut oil isn't the be-all or end-all of weight loss.

Chris

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On 6/2/06, allyn ferris <aferris7272@...> wrote:

> I eat 2-4 tablespoons a day so maybe I will up it to 6.

I hope that works for you.

Someone emailed me offlist about weight loss a little while ago so I'm

going to reprint what I wrote to that person here as a few additional

points to consider for weight loss besdies coconut oil, with the last

two points modified:

1) Carbohydrates -- the medium-chain fats are probably much more

effective if carbs are moderated. If you're consuming all your energy

needs as carbs, your body isn't going to burn fat.

2) Meal spacing. If you're eating three meals plus snacks, you're

eating too often. Not everyone can jump straight to this, but ideally

you would go five hour stretches without eating anything or drinking

anything caloric.

3) Nutrients. Some people may need more a) nutrients necessary for

energy-burning and/or nutrients -- like calcium and a few others --

necessary for satiety. Eating things with bones or taking bone meal

powder seems to help. Dairy might do the trick for some, though not

everyone can tolerate it.

4) Protein. Animal studies induce insulin resistance and obesity in

animals with high-fat diets when they replace the protein with fat but

not the carbs with fat. Some people eat too much protein, but a lot

of people don't get enough. If you're trying to lose weight, it's

probably best to eat 20-25% of your calories as protein, and to have

somewhere between 0.5 grams and 1 gram of protein for every pound of

body weight. If you go above 30%, you'll wind up with problems, but

if you go below 20%, you're probably not eating enough protein to lose

weight.

5) Exercise. No one can escape the requirement for exercise. Even if

you don't need the metabolic conditioning, you need the mechanical

benefit of movement for your digestive and lymph systems, so there's

no excuses. My experience indicates kettlebell training is awesome

for fat-burning, which translates more generally into a) weights and

interval training. Anyone trying to burn fat should also be trying

to build lean muscle. Further, exercise should be done on an empty

stomach, ideally 3 hours or more after eating. The hormones you want

during exercise are consistent with the fasting part of the cycle, not

the feeding part. Exercise on an empty stomach will also provide

metabolic conditioning to allow you to further space your meals

without any problems. Exercising after eating is ineffective for fat

loss.

6) Thyroid health. Good thyroid status is necessary for a healthy

weight, and it is also necessary for the exercise to result in fat

loss. To make thyroid hormone, you need the amino acid tyrosine and

iodine. There are probably other nutrients involved in the enzymes

that turn the tyrosine and iodine into thryoid hormone, but I'm not

sure what they are. Avoiding polyunsaturated fatty acids and

consuming saturated fatty acids can help thyroid status, which is one

way coconut oil helps. You want to avoid fluoride, chlorine, and

mercury, which also means you want to get calcium and zinc and iodine

which are protective against those.

7) Sleep. Getting sufficient sleep is necessary for proper metabolism.

8) Some other considerations that might not apply to everyone: food

allergies, need for detoxification, indoor toxic molds.

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>

> > Have you looked into Sjogren's? Heid had that before she went

> gluten free.

>

> I think that's an autoimmune disease, do you know what she did for

> it?

She went gluten-free and it resolved.

B.

June 3, 2006

On 6/3/06, downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote:

> > I think that's an autoimmune disease, do you know what she did for

> > it?

>

> She went gluten-free and it resolved.

Anyone with an autoimmune disease should get tested for gluten sensitivity.

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I would eat about 10-15 pieces of fruit for breakfast, usually

mangoes, then 1-2 large coconuts for lunch, and maybe some greens or

other fruit. All raw, mostly vegan, except for the occasional bit of

raw shrimp.

These days I will eat coconut oil together with fresh coconut, or

with some sea salt, or both. It works to keep my weight down. I

probably eat 6-9 tablespoons worth a day, 5-7 days a week. You might

want to try a juice fast. A juice fast plus coconut oil will really

knock the weight off.

A more important point is that the coconut oil seems to have changed

the distribution of fat on my body. I mysteriously got weirdly-

skinny legs sometime during college, with a normal fat distribution

on the rest of my body. this stayed the same for about 8-9 years,

but after losing 40 pounds on the coconut diet, then regaining it, my

legs have been in proportion since then.

It has some seriously deep healing powers. When I get sensitive

spots on my teeth, coconut oil gets rid of it on contact, usually,

whereas the same amount of butter oil takes 3-4 hours to get rid of

the soreness.

mike

> >

> > > Crayfish,

> > > Is it just lack of saliva in the mouth,or are all the mucus

> > membranes,

> > > like eyes and nasal passages, etc, dry?

> > > B.

> > Well, the interesting thing is that my eyes were getting more

> > sensitive to my contacts over the months, also my nasal

passages

> but I

> > wasn't putting it together. At the same time I had what I

thought

> was

> > thirst but in the end I realized I wasn't drinking b/c I was

> thirsty,

> > I was drinking b/c my tongue was dry and I thought that was

thirst

> > which might explain why the florinef Dr. Rind prescribed for me

> wasn't

> > working. It wasn't until I read in my dentist's book that

people

> with

> > a bad thyroid dry up essentially and then everything clicked.

> >

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What brand of coconut oil do you take? Would this be a healthy thing

to do for someone who must be mindful of saturated fat intake and

cholesterol?

Jane Edenfield

On Jun 3, 2006, at 4:12 PM, michael grogan wrote:

> These days I will eat coconut oil together with fresh coconut, or

> with some sea salt, or both. It works to keep my weight down. I

> probably eat 6-9 tablespoons worth a day, 5-7 days a week. You might

> want to try a juice fast. A juice fast plus coconut oil will really

> knock the weight off.

June 4, 2006

On 6/3/06, Jane Edenfield <boxers1@...> wrote:

> What brand of coconut oil do you take? Would this be a healthy thing

> to do for someone who must be mindful of saturated fat intake and

> cholesterol?

The following things are a general consensus on this list (not to say

that opposing viewpoints aren't welcome):

1) Saturated fat does not cause heart disease

2) Saturated fat does not consistently cause any type of lipid

profile, whether " bad " or " good "

3) High cholesterol levels do not cause heart disease

4) High LDL levels, so-called " bad cholesterol, " do not cause heart disease.

Further, I would add:

-- In postmenopausal women, increased saturated fat intake is

associated with reversal of, not progression of, atherosclerosis. In

a major study of postmenopausal women with some degree of

atherosclerosis published in 2004, there was a direct inverse

correlation between saturated fat intake and progression of

atherosclerosis. The more saturated fat the women ate, the less their

atherosclerosis worsened over three years. Further, the women in the

highest quartile of intake actually had their atherosclerosis

REVERSED. The editors called this the " American paradox. "

Mozaffarian, et al., " Dietary fats, carbohydrate, and progression of

coronary atherosclerosis in postmenopausal women, " American Journal of

Clinical Nutrition, 80 (2004) 1175-84.

-- Saturated fat is protective against heart damage even when it

appears to " worsen " lipid profiles. In a study with rats, a

high-saturated fat diet based on coconut oil was compared to a

high-polyunsaturated fat diet based on corn oil. The corn oil rats

had lower LDL, higher HDL, lower total cholesterol, lower blood

triglycerdies, and a lower total cholesterol-to-HDL ratio. Sounds

great, doesn't it? Yet when they analyzed the cardiac tissue, the

corn oil group had twice the oxidative damage as the coconut oil

group, half the aerobic capacity of the coconut oil group, and 42%

less glycogen storage than the coconut oil group, which is a factor

that is important in preventing and recovering from tissue damage to

the heart.

Diniz, et al., " Diets Rich in Saturated and Polyunsaturated Fatty

Acids: Metabolic Shifting and Cardiac Health, " Nutrition, 20 (2004)

230-234.

-- Coconut oil contains medium-chain fats, which increase levels of

ketones, which make the heart more efficient. Ketones added to heart

tissue decreased oxygen consumption while increasing hydraulic work

25%. Meaning that the heart was able to do more while putting a lower

demand for oxygen on the body. This would seem to suggest that oxygen

supply to the heart would have to be brought lower than it normally

would do induce damage to the heart if one is consuming coconut oil,

or a high-fat, lower-carb diet, which also produces higher levels of

ketones.

As cited in VanItallie and Nufert, " Ketones: Metabolism's Ugly

Duckling, " Nutrition Reviews, Vol. 61, No. 10, (2003) 327-341.

If you believe the conventional view that saturated fat and high blood

cholesterol levels cause heart disease, I recommend reading Dr. Uffe

Ravnskov's _The Cholesterol Myths_, which I reviewed here:

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/The-Cholesterol-Myths.html

Chris

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June 4, 2006

and List

It would be an understatement to say that I am in the early stages of

learning about *true* good health and that path to get there. In late

February I went to the doctor for an earache and afterwards when I

went back for the recheck he mentioned that I was overdue for *my 50

thousand mile check up*. I said OK and he did blood work and an EKG

and told me that the EKG was indicating an irregular rythum and that

my total cholesterol was 379. He wanted me on Vytorin ,a statin drug

immediately and asked me to come over and get some samples from him.

I told him that I would approach this issue nutritionally and with

exersize. he was sckeptical /still is. I will go back at the end of

this month for more blood work and an EKG and a treadmill test and

see where I am. In the meantime I have begun eating about 75% raw

fruits and veggies,doing a lot of juicing,having a protien drink at

lunchtime and drinking more water than I thought I could. I feel

better than I have since I can't remember when (I am 52 and have

always felt well). I have more energy,feel so much more agile and

mentally I am sharper. All these things make it fairly easy for me to

continue to eat as I am...the temptations are few. However I have

much to learn,my journey has just begun and with the help of

wonderful people like all of you (thank you Chris) my life and health

will become richer. You have given me plenty to read/research and

ponder. Thank you. Please feel free to make suggestions as you see fit.

Jane Edenfield

boxers1@...

On Jun 3, 2006, at 8:25 PM, Masterjohn wrote:

> On 6/3/06, Jane Edenfield <boxers1@...> wrote:

> > What brand of coconut oil do you take? Would this be a healthy thing

> > to do for someone who must be mindful of saturated fat intake and

> > cholesterol?

>

> The following things are a general consensus on this list (not to say

> that opposing viewpoints aren't welcome):

>

> 1) Saturated fat does not cause heart disease

> 2) Saturated fat does not consistently cause any type of lipid

> profile, whether " bad " or " good "

> 3) High cholesterol levels do not cause heart disease

> 4) High LDL levels, so-called " bad cholesterol, " do not cause heart

> disease.

>

> Further, I would add:

>

> -- In postmenopausal women, increased saturated fat intake is

> associated with reversal of, not progression of, atherosclerosis. In

> a major study of postmenopausal women with some degree of

> atherosclerosis published in 2004, there was a direct inverse

> correlation between saturated fat intake and progression of

> atherosclerosis. The more saturated fat the women ate, the less their

> atherosclerosis worsened over three years. Further, the women in the

> highest quartile of intake actually had their atherosclerosis

> REVERSED. The editors called this the " American paradox. "

>

> Mozaffarian, et al., " Dietary fats, carbohydrate, and progression of

> coronary atherosclerosis in postmenopausal women, " American Journal of

> Clinical Nutrition, 80 (2004) 1175-84.

>

> -- Saturated fat is protective against heart damage even when it

> appears to " worsen " lipid profiles. In a study with rats, a

> high-saturated fat diet based on coconut oil was compared to a

> high-polyunsaturated fat diet based on corn oil. The corn oil rats

> had lower LDL, higher HDL, lower total cholesterol, lower blood

> triglycerdies, and a lower total cholesterol-to-HDL ratio. Sounds

> great, doesn't it? Yet when they analyzed the cardiac tissue, the

> corn oil group had twice the oxidative damage as the coconut oil

> group, half the aerobic capacity of the coconut oil group, and 42%

> less glycogen storage than the coconut oil group, which is a factor

> that is important in preventing and recovering from tissue damage to

> the heart.

>

> Diniz, et al., " Diets Rich in Saturated and Polyunsaturated Fatty

> Acids: Metabolic Shifting and Cardiac Health, " Nutrition, 20 (2004)

> 230-234.

>

> -- Coconut oil contains medium-chain fats, which increase levels of

> ketones, which make the heart more efficient. Ketones added to heart

> tissue decreased oxygen consumption while increasing hydraulic work

> 25%. Meaning that the heart was able to do more while putting a lower

> demand for oxygen on the body. This would seem to suggest that oxygen

> supply to the heart would have to be brought lower than it normally

> would do induce damage to the heart if one is consuming coconut oil,

> or a high-fat, lower-carb diet, which also produces higher levels of

> ketones.

>

> As cited in VanItallie and Nufert, " Ketones: Metabolism's Ugly

> Duckling, " Nutrition Reviews, Vol. 61, No. 10, (2003) 327-341.

>

> If you believe the conventional view that saturated fat and high blood

> cholesterol levels cause heart disease, I recommend reading Dr. Uffe

> Ravnskov's _The Cholesterol Myths_, which I reviewed here:

>

> http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/The-Cholesterol-Myths.html

>

> Chris

> --

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> A Case For Vegetarianism?

> Find Out the Truth:

> http://www.westonaprice.org/envtoxins/dioxins.html

>

June 4, 2006

have you had your thyroid check. Having low thyroid hormone levels can

cause your cholesterol to go up.

Irene

At 06:13 PM 6/3/06, you wrote:

>and List

>It would be an understatement to say that I am in the early stages of

>learning about *true* good health and that path to get there. In late

>February I went to the doctor for an earache and afterwards when I

>went back for the recheck he mentioned that I was overdue for *my 50

>thousand mile check up*. I said OK and he did blood work and an EKG

>and told me that the EKG was indicating an irregular rythum and that

>my total cholesterol was 379. He wanted me on Vytorin ,a statin drug

>immediately and asked me to come over and get some samples from him.

>I told him that I would approach this issue nutritionally and with

>exersize. he was sckeptical /still is. I will go back at the end of

>this month for more blood work and an EKG and a treadmill test and

>see where I am. In the meantime I have begun eating about 75% raw

>fruits and veggies,doing a lot of juicing,having a protien drink at

>lunchtime and drinking more water than I thought I could. I feel

>better than I have since I can't remember when (I am 52 and have

>always felt well). I have more energy,feel so much more agile and

>mentally I am sharper. All these things make it fairly easy for me to

>continue to eat as I am...the temptations are few. However I have

>much to learn,my journey has just begun and with the help of

>wonderful people like all of you (thank you Chris) my life and health

>will become richer. You have given me plenty to read/research and

>ponder. Thank you. Please feel free to make suggestions as you see fit.

>Jane Edenfield

>boxers1@...

>On Jun 3, 2006, at 8:25 PM, Masterjohn wrote:

>

> > On 6/3/06, Jane Edenfield <boxers1@...> wrote:

> > > What brand of coconut oil do you take? Would this be a healthy thing

> > > to do for someone who must be mindful of saturated fat intake and

> > > cholesterol?

> >

> > The following things are a general consensus on this list (not to say

> > that opposing viewpoints aren't welcome):

> >

> > 1) Saturated fat does not cause heart disease

> > 2) Saturated fat does not consistently cause any type of lipid

> > profile, whether " bad " or " good "

> > 3) High cholesterol levels do not cause heart disease

> > 4) High LDL levels, so-called " bad cholesterol, " do not cause heart

> > disease.

> >

> > Further, I would add:

> >

> > -- In postmenopausal women, increased saturated fat intake is

> > associated with reversal of, not progression of, atherosclerosis. In

> > a major study of postmenopausal women with some degree of

> > atherosclerosis published in 2004, there was a direct inverse

> > correlation between saturated fat intake and progression of

> > atherosclerosis. The more saturated fat the women ate, the less their

> > atherosclerosis worsened over three years. Further, the women in the

> > highest quartile of intake actually had their atherosclerosis

> > REVERSED. The editors called this the " American paradox. "

> >

> > Mozaffarian, et al., " Dietary fats, carbohydrate, and progression of

> > coronary atherosclerosis in postmenopausal women, " American Journal of

> > Clinical Nutrition, 80 (2004) 1175-84.

> >

> > -- Saturated fat is protective against heart damage even when it

> > appears to " worsen " lipid profiles. In a study with rats, a

> > high-saturated fat diet based on coconut oil was compared to a

> > high-polyunsaturated fat diet based on corn oil. The corn oil rats

> > had lower LDL, higher HDL, lower total cholesterol, lower blood

> > triglycerdies, and a lower total cholesterol-to-HDL ratio. Sounds

> > great, doesn't it? Yet when they analyzed the cardiac tissue, the

> > corn oil group had twice the oxidative damage as the coconut oil

> > group, half the aerobic capacity of the coconut oil group, and 42%

> > less glycogen storage than the coconut oil group, which is a factor

> > that is important in preventing and recovering from tissue damage to

> > the heart.

> >

> > Diniz, et al., " Diets Rich in Saturated and Polyunsaturated Fatty

> > Acids: Metabolic Shifting and Cardiac Health, " Nutrition, 20 (2004)

> > 230-234.

> >

> > -- Coconut oil contains medium-chain fats, which increase levels of

> > ketones, which make the heart more efficient. Ketones added to heart

> > tissue decreased oxygen consumption while increasing hydraulic work

> > 25%. Meaning that the heart was able to do more while putting a lower

> > demand for oxygen on the body. This would seem to suggest that oxygen

> > supply to the heart would have to be brought lower than it normally

> > would do induce damage to the heart if one is consuming coconut oil,

> > or a high-fat, lower-carb diet, which also produces higher levels of

> > ketones.

> >

> > As cited in VanItallie and Nufert, " Ketones: Metabolism's Ugly

> > Duckling, " Nutrition Reviews, Vol. 61, No. 10, (2003) 327-341.

> >

> > If you believe the conventional view that saturated fat and high blood

> > cholesterol levels cause heart disease, I recommend reading Dr. Uffe

> > Ravnskov's _The Cholesterol Myths_, which I reviewed here:

> >

> > http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/The-Cholesterol-Myths.html

> >

> > Chris

> > --

> > Dioxins in Animal Foods:

> > A Case For Vegetarianism?

> > Find Out the Truth:

> > http://www.westonaprice.org/envtoxins/dioxins.html

> >

>

June 4, 2006

I would not totally freak out about the cholesterol and IMHO I think diet is the

best way. Red yeast rice is a great supplement to reduce cholesterol levels.

My mother's were of 300 and her triglycerides were 1000 it think. Her

cholesterol dropped 30 points and her triglycerides dropped in half in two

months taking red yeast rice. You can even buy it in Walmart.