Guest guest Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 re: This morning I got this response from Kraft!! " Iodized salt is not used in our products. " Kym, do you know if they use iodine to cleanse their machines or in any part of the manufacturing/packaging process? Hope I'm not putting too much of a damper on things.... Mel DX Hashimoto's, Graves & follicular neoplasm 2.7 cm 8/2001 with extensive hurtle cells and vascular invasion TT 11/19/2001 RAI 3/8/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 Mel Even if they do, it's no big deal. Ian > re: This morning I got this response from Kraft!! > > " Iodized salt is not used in our products. " > > > Kym, do you know if they use iodine to cleanse their machines or in any part of the manufacturing/packaging process? > > Hope I'm not putting too much of a damper on things.... > > Mel > DX Hashimoto's, Graves & follicular neoplasm 2.7 cm 8/2001 > with extensive hurtle cells and vascular invasion > TT 11/19/2001 RAI 3/8/2002 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 Hi, Ian. I'm curious...why wouldn't it be a big deal? I thought even if they process something with iodine we need to not consume it. Am I wrong about that? Thanks for any clarification you might give. Mel DX Hashimoto's, Graves & follicular neoplasm 2.7 cm 8/2001 with extensive hurtle cells and vascular invasion TT 11/19/2001 RAI 3/8/2002 Re: LID: Exciting News! Mel Even if they do, it's no big deal. Ian > re: This morning I got this response from Kraft!! > > " Iodized salt is not used in our products. " > > > Kym, do you know if they use iodine to cleanse their machines or in any part of the manufacturing/packaging process? > > Hope I'm not putting too much of a damper on things.... > > Mel > DX Hashimoto's, Graves & follicular neoplasm 2.7 cm 8/2001 > with extensive hurtle cells and vascular invasion > TT 11/19/2001 RAI 3/8/2002 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 Mel Sorry, I was busy yesterday when I wrote that and didn't explain as much as I would have liked. Iodophor disinfectants have a taste. Users are recommended to sanitize surfaces then wash the stuff off. The other factor is that, on an industrial scale, any residues would be so heavily diluted that they would become insignificant. Lastly, and I'm trying to word this carefully so as not to offend, the LID is about avoiding high iodine foods and getting on with life, not lying in bed worrying about the tiny traces. Ian > Hi, Ian. I'm curious...why wouldn't it be a big deal? I thought even if they process something with iodine we need to not consume it. Am I wrong about that? > > Thanks for any clarification you might give. > > Mel > DX Hashimoto's, Graves & follicular neoplasm 2.7 cm 8/2001 > with extensive hurtle cells and vascular invasion > TT 11/19/2001 RAI 3/8/2002 > Re: LID: Exciting News! > > > Mel > > Even if they do, it's no big deal. > > Ian > > > re: This morning I got this response from Kraft!! > > > > " Iodized salt is not used in our products. " > > > > > > Kym, do you know if they use iodine to cleanse their machines or in any part of the manufacturing/packaging process? > > > > Hope I'm not putting too much of a damper on things.... > > > > Mel > > DX Hashimoto's, Graves & follicular neoplasm 2.7 cm 8/2001 > > with extensive hurtle cells and vascular invasion > > TT 11/19/2001 RAI 3/8/2002 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 Thanks Ian -- no offense taken! Mel DX Hashimoto's, Graves & follicular neoplasm 2.7 cm 8/2001 with extensive hurtle cells and vascular invasion TT 11/19/2001 RAI 3/8/2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Adam " ...Lastly, and I'm trying to word this carefully so as not to offend, the LID is about avoiding high iodine foods and getting on with life, not lying in bed worrying about the tiny traces. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 > Of course, if the USDA would publish iodine content of foods in their official database, then that might make all this so much easier. But they don't, I have no idea why... > I don't think the data are out there to _be_ published! Would somebody like to fund the research??? Plus, with food content of that sort varying with where it's grown, exactly how treated/processed, what the animals ate, etc., what would be the " standard " anyway? I, too, approached the LID with a " strict " eye, looking at two slightly different versions (ignoring the hospital's ideas, which included dairy on my so-called LID tray!). I also have the added wrinkle of being a dietandexercise controlled diabetic, which means that even if LID permits it I may still have to limit it, or spread it out more, etc. Quelle fun. bj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Adam Mel Sorry, I was busy yesterday when I wrote that and didn't explain as much as I would have liked. Iodophor disinfectants have a taste. Users are recommended to sanitize surfaces then wash the stuff off. The other factor is that, on an industrial scale, any residues would be so heavily diluted that they would become insignificant. Lastly, and I'm trying to word this carefully so as not to offend, the LID is about avoiding high iodine foods and getting on with life, not lying in bed worrying about the tiny traces. Ian, I feel I must respond to this. The problem for most of us is that we *can't tell the difference* between the high iodine foods and the ones with tiny traces. Perhaps if, on the thyca web page list of foods to avoid, there was some kind of distinction between the High iodine foods and the Tiny Trace ones, then we folks out here could make intelligent decisions about what to eat. I was in the position of having the diet from my hospital be different from the thyca recommended diet. For example, the hospital seemed to be okay with soy and thyca wasn't. So I avoided soy. My hospital said no eggs at all and thyca says whites okay. So I avoided eggs altogether. I ended up trying to follow the most conservative of both, just to be on the safe side. Perhaps if I knew which category Soy and Egg whites fall in, trace or high or perhaps medium, then I could have made a better decision. But in my state of ignorance, I had to take the safest route. Of course, if the USDA would publish iodine content of foods in their official database, then that might make all this so much easier. But they don't, I have no idea why... Thank you for your straightforwardness. Ian > Hi, Ian. I'm curious...why wouldn't it be a big deal? I thought even if they process something with iodine we need to not consume it. Am I wrong about that? > > Thanks for any clarification you might give. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 I wish it were more straightforward too. I suspect that the USDA don't research the iodine content of food is cost and lack of interest. The main interest in iodine is ensuring that everyone gets enough. Once that has been achieved there is no further interest in the subject. To do a good job of this would require that a huge number of cans, packets, jars etc be sampled, not forgetting that big producers often have many plants, each using local ingredients & local water, while the soil has different intrinsic iodine content, and plants may well have seasonal differences in iodine content. Then of course, they come out with a 'new recipe' and everything starts from scratch. The high iodine foods are fish, shellfish, seaweed, iodized salt, dairy products, egg yolks, seaweed, Red#3 (erythrosine), vitamin & mineral supplements. All the others are substantially lower, and many are eaten in small amounts. For example, toothpaste is often mentioned because it is thickened with carrageenan or one of the other seaweed-derived polysaccharides. I have never seen any evidence to suggest that the refined thickeners contains measurable iodine, and I do have some evidence to the contrary. But even if the thickener (a minor ingredient) is rich io iodine, how much do you use per day? and how much of that do you actually swallow? Personally, I believe that the list above is quite long enough, and providing that you vary your diet I suspect that you will be doing a very good job. Soy is a different problem. It contains goitrogens that affect thyroid metabolism. While this has nothing to do with it's iodine content, it is best avoided for these other reasons. I have written before on these subjects and if you want more, I suggest you do a search on the yahoo site. Ian > > Ian, > > I feel I must respond to this. The problem for most of us is that we *can't tell the difference* between the high iodine foods and the ones with tiny traces. Perhaps if, on the thyca web page list of foods to avoid, there was some kind of distinction between the High iodine foods and the Tiny Trace ones, then we folks out here could make intelligent decisions about what to eat. > > I was in the position of having the diet from my hospital be different from the thyca recommended diet. For example, the hospital seemed to be okay with soy and thyca wasn't. So I avoided soy. My hospital said no eggs at all and thyca says whites okay. So I avoided eggs altogether. I ended up trying to follow the most conservative of both, just to be on the safe side. Perhaps if I knew which category Soy and Egg whites fall in, trace or high or perhaps medium, then I could have made a better decision. But in my state of ignorance, I had to take the safest route. > > Of course, if the USDA would publish iodine content of foods in their official database, then that might make all this so much easier. But they don't, I have no idea why... > > Thank you for your straightforwardness. > > > > > Ian > > > Hi, Ian. I'm curious...why wouldn't it be a big deal? I thought even if > they process something with iodine we need to not consume it. Am I wrong > about that? > > > > Thanks for any clarification you might give. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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