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(Crossposted between GFCFNN and NN)

Okay, so I got my test results back:

My vitamin D is *LOW* by " a little bit " 31.4 when 32 is " normal " . I knew I

was low, but I'm amazed that I am still low even though I spend at least 2

full days out of the week in the sun with as much bared as the temperature

will allow, plus as many 15 minute " sunshine " breaks I can get with the

smoking crowd at work, AND I suppliment CLO AND Vitamin D up to 2,000 IU

approx every other day. Does this mean I need to take more D, or eat more

fat, or both?

I recently got a new bottle of CLO - I went for the carlsons lemon flavored

which has a higher D:A ratio (between 1:3 and 1:1, it ranges between

500-1200 IU A and is a static 400 IU D). I can literally drink it right out

of the bottle! It tastes good on its own, but it is absolutely awesome when

chased by a drop of organic unsweetened cranberry juice concentrate. Is

there such a thing as too much CLO? I'd love to just swig this throughout

the day!

My vitamin A is " normal " .

My cholestorol is " perfect " (This makes me laugh since he was telling me to

back off on the red meat before he even ran the test and I didn't even tell

him how many egg yolks I eat a week.)

My CMP was " great. " My liver and kidney function were " good " (they used to

be under par, especially my kidneys, before I started NT and taking CLO

regularly).

My blood gluten panel, including IgA is " normal " . I'm actually kind of

releived because I didn't want to have bad enough gut damage to show up on

that test. My doc will be authorizing enterolab as an in-network provider

on my next visit. I don't see how I could be neg to that considering I get

very ill when I eat even the smallest bit of gluten now that it has been out

of my diet for a while.

Did I mention I love this diet?

-Lana

On 5/16/06, Lana Gibbons <lana.m.gibbons@...> wrote:

>

> I was a little dismayed at my doc today when I saw him. I made the

> mistake of mentioning supplimenting fat soluble vitamins and a high fat

> diet. He tried to tell me how I shouldn't be supplimenting them (without

> even asking how much I was supplimenting) and how it *HAS* to be the placebo

> effect that I can actually feel a difference when I have adequate vitamin D

> intake, because even people with rickets " don't feel " the improvement, and

> how I would build up toxic amounts in my fat cells. Uh huh.

>

> He's running a dozen other blood tests on me and started lecturing about

> being more vegan, and cutting out the red meat!! I was appalled... I tried

> to explain to him I buy extremely high quality meat (grass fed, organic,

> etc) but he wouldn't listen.

>

<snip>

> -Lana

>

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Huh, makes you wonder about the Activator X after all, doesn't it?

How could your vitamin D be still low? Enzyme deficiency??

Congrats on proving your closed-minded MD wrong! :D

> >

> > I was a little dismayed at my doc today when I saw him. I made

the

> > mistake of mentioning supplimenting fat soluble vitamins and a

high fat

> > diet. He tried to tell me how I shouldn't be supplimenting them

(without

> > even asking how much I was supplimenting) and how it *HAS* to be

the placebo

> > effect that I can actually feel a difference when I have

adequate vitamin D

> > intake, because even people with rickets " don't feel " the

improvement, and

> > how I would build up toxic amounts in my fat cells. Uh huh.

> >

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On 5/25/06, downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote:

> /How come I only got two pages when I googled it?

> <shakes fist at Chris>

Just a terminology difference, I think. I got two pages of pages, and

together those two pages linked to 23 pages on the site.

Chris

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Patty ~

It means that your liver is struggeling a bit.......

could be from the medicines or venom you

had

Medicines that may increase bilirubin levels. This includes many antibiotics, some types of birth control pills, indomethacin (Indocin), phenytoin (Dilantin), diazepam (Valium), and flurazepam (Dalmane).

I have read where prednisone can bring down bilirubin.........but....

dont trust what I am saying....because I dont know, I did know a high one

wasnt good.........so I looked it up at Quest.....a corning owned lab.....eW

Were you on any of those meds ? ?

Have you been drinking wine ? ?

Did you have liver function tests done ? ? or a complete metabolic panel ? ?

I would talk to the doc about it, and see what they say....keep me posted

I would like to know the answer to that one........

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Hi Patty,I am , I'm a doctor and a new member of the list, I have only read the messages I've received since I joined yesterday, I still haven't read the older posts. Maybe you can tell me what test you had done and the result so that I can interpret them for you.____________________________Erwin T. Tan, MDFrom: DGRAHAMA@...Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 3:10 AM Subject: Re: Re: Test results backPatty ~ It means that your liver is struggeling a bit....... could be from the medicines or venom you had Medicines that may increase bilirubin levels. This includes many antibiotics, some types of birth control pills, indomethacin (Indocin), phenytoin (Dilantin), diazepam (Valium), and flurazepam (Dalmane). I have read where prednisone can bring down bilirubin.........but... dont trust what I am saying....because I dont know, I did know a high one wasnt good.........so I looked it up at Quest.....a corning owned lab.....eW Were you on any of those meds ? ? Have you been drinking wine ? ? Did you have liver function tests done ? ? or a complete metabolic panel ? ? I would talk to the doc about it, and see what they say....keep me posted I would like to know the answer to that one........**************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002) [The entire original message is not included]

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Hi Dr. Tan,

Thank you so much.....Welcome to our group! I am pleased to have you join us,

and very pleased that you are looking into the issues we have experienced with

breast implants. I hope you will read our stories in the file section of what

our women have endured.

As you know, most doctors don't believe that implants make women ill, but over

the past 9 years that this group has existed, we've seen hundreds and hundreds

of women come forward with implant associated illness, and we've seen many of

those women regain health once their implants are removed. We don't guarantee

that the women will get better with explant alone, because there is so much more

going on with the immune system. Detoxing the body is usually very, very

necessary. I am one who got better once my implants were removed and I took

control of my health by detoxing with fasting, colonics, coffee enemas and more.

It took 4 long years.

I should define those words " got better. " It means that I was able to return to

living a productive life with energy and ability. Before that, I was so fatigued

and poisoned-feeling that I could not function normally at all. Everything about

living was a chore. After several years of detoxing post-explant, I was

diagnosed with Hashimoto's autoimmune thyroid disease, but live well despite

this diagnosis, because I continue to detox, and I take armour thyroid meds.

So, in answer to your inquiry regarding my test, I was doing a follow up visit

with an Immunologist due to a scorpion sting. I was concerned about the long

term affects on my immune system, since scorpion venom is a neurotoxin. I was

hospitalized for 2 days, where they gave me ativan and some type of steroid to

keep the inflammation down.

Three weeks after the hospitalization, I tested high on Total Bilirubin at 1.5

on a scale where 1.2 was the upper limit of normal. I also tested high on

Complement C4, at 38 with a range of 9-36. All other test results were normal

(Immunoglobulins A, G, M, E, liver enzymes, Sed rate, C-Reactive protein. In

the past, I've tested low on Complement C3, but that reading was in normal

ranges finally.)

I appreciate your willingness to offer some form of interpretation..thank you!

I am happy to see you join us, and am hopeful that we can work together to help

women find answers that they are not able to get from their other doctors

regarding their illnesses.

Patty

>

> Hi Patty,

>

> I am , I'm a doctor and a new member of the list, I have only read the

messages I've received since I joined yesterday, I still haven't read the older

posts. Maybe you can tell me what test you had done and the result so that I can

interpret them for you.

>

>

>

> ____________________________

>

> Erwin T. Tan, MD

>

> Re: Re: Test results back

>

>

>

> Patty ~

> It means that your liver is struggeling a bit.......

> could be from the medicines or venom you

> had

> Medicines that may increase bilirubin levels. This includes many antibiotics,

some types of birth control pills, indomethacin (Indocin), phenytoin (Dilantin),

diazepam (Valium), and flurazepam (Dalmane).

>

> I have read where prednisone can bring down bilirubin.........but....

> dont trust what I am saying....because I dont know, I did know a high one

> wasnt good.........so I looked it up at Quest.....a corning owned lab.....eW

> Were you on any of those meds ? ?

> Have you been drinking wine ? ?

> Did you have liver function tests done ? ? or a complete metabolic panel ? ?

> I would talk to the doc about it, and see what they say....keep me posted

> I would like to know the answer to that one........

>

>

>

> **************

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(http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntus\

trav00000002)

>

>

> [The entire original message is not included]

>

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hi patty;

what does bilirubin and complement c tell you about your body? is this a blood test?

thanks.

gg

Re: Re: Test results back> > > > Patty ~ > It means that your liver is struggeling a bit.......> could be from the medicines or venom you> had> Medicines that may increase bilirubin levels. This includes many antibiotics, some types of birth control pills, indomethacin (Indocin), phenytoin (Dilantin), diazepam (Valium), and flurazepam (Dalmane).> > I have read where prednisone can bring down bilirubin.........but....> dont trust what I am saying....because I dont know, I did know a high one> wasnt good.........so I looked it up at Quest.....a corning owned lab.....eW> Were you on any of those meds ? ? > Have you been drinking wine ? ? > Did you have liver function tests done ? ? or a complete metabolic panel ? ? > I would talk to the doc about it, and see what they say....keep me posted> I would like to know the answer to that one........> > > > **************> Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002) > > > [The entire original message is not included]>

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Hi gg,

Yes, this was a blood test. I'll wait to see what Dr. Tan says about these

blood test results....the bilirubin has something to do with the liver, and the

C4 complement has to do with the immune system. (THere is a complement cascade

that comes into play to fight infection....think of the steps of a

waterfall....and C4 is just part of the cascade.)

Patty

You wrote:

hi patty;

what does bilirubin and complement c tell you about your body? is this a blood

test?

thanks.

gg

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