Re: Regarding bipolar disorder and ADHD

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Thanks for your response. I have read Dr. Crooks book years ago in

dealing with my ex husbands Candida issues and I will dig it back out. I

will be eagerly awaiting the time when you have to go into the free aminos

but I will start a research on these as well.

Thanks again,

Allyn

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Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 8:17 PM

Subject: Regarding bipolar disorder and ADHD

Dear Allyn:

At some point I am going to post to this egroup on the amino acids

that I have taken and are familiar with. However, this has to be

much later... as my writing agenda is just far too encumbered for me

to do this any time soon.

Perhaps the following information might be helpful to you.

Bipolar and ADHD are very similar conditions in regard to both their

true causes and their best corrections in the great majority of

persons so afflicted.

Bipolar and ADHD are, far more often than not, primarily caused by

multiple hidden food allergies, candida, and/or other intestinal

dysbiosis issues. Other common malabsorptive factors (such as a

lack of digestive enzymes, etc.) or common gut problems (such as

leaky gut) are likely to be involved as well. Both illnesses often

have an excess toxicity component as well.

A faulty nutrient/allergic/and toxic equation underlies a myriad of

illnesses, to include bipolar disorder and ADHD. Correcting this

nutrient/allergic/and toxic equation adequately should fully resolve

these illnesses. At least this is my opinion, an opinion based on a

great deal of research and (self) experience since 1997.

Crook was a pioneer author on ADHD... and he primarily

addressed food allergies and yeast. You would be wise to become

familiar with Crook's written work on ADHD, food allergies,

and yeast, even if some of it is a bit out of date (as much of it is

not out of date as well).

Doris Rapp is another great author on the same issues as Crook. I'd

sure get her book " Is This Your Child? " is I was in your shoes.

(Don't confuse this book with the book " Is This Your Child's World " ,

which deals with toxic exposure.)

There are many other alt med doctors that concur with the above

authors, but these two rather immediately came to my mind on the

subject of ADHD.

Also, some of Sherry books deal with issues germane to ADHD

and bipolar, such as " Depression Cured At Last " and " No More

Hearburn " (this book goes way beyond heartburn for sure). All of

Dr. written work can be found on www.prestigepublishing.com

Sherry was by far " my greatest teacher " . Although she does

not know hardly anything in regard to using many amino acids

therapeutically, she sure knows a great deal on many other

alternative health topics. Her books greatly helped me to beat

bipolar, although I admittedly needed to find some other answers

elsewhere. I had Sherry book " Depression Cured At Last " in

1997, when it first came out. I have read every other book she has

written as well, many of them more than once. In my opinion, Dr.

is a " must read " author for so many people with a wide

variety of conditions of ill health. I believe that she is also

a " must read " author (there are others of course) for anyone that is

seriously into alternative medicine.

Another resource for you is the net... just do linking searches such

as ADHD food allergies, ADHD candida. etc. In addition to this,

there are a number of egroups that might be helpful to you.

These egroups deal with treating ADHD naturally, candida, food

allergies, etc.

Many people equate me with " just amino acids " , due to my rather

extensive experience with them. Sure, these are very helpful

substances. However, to ignore the issues of food allergy, candida,

a lack of digestive enzymes, leaky gut, etc., etc. and just skip to

amino acid use and other nutritional supplementation is simply not

wise. The root causes of chemicial deficiency (and/or excess

toxicity) need to be both identified and dealt with ( " fixed " ) to

correct bipolar disorder and ADHD (and many other illnesses)

properly.

Lastly, I ahould perhaps mention to you that I am not a doctor, nor

do I have any formal educational (beyond high school) or medical

credentials whatsoever. I am simply a lay person that is self

educated in alternative medicine.

All the best,

>

> Hi ,

> I have a son that is severely ADHD but I think some of it is bi-

polar. What

> do you mean by

> Free form amino acids and which ones do you use?

> Thanks,

> Allyn

>

[Guest guest]

Allyn...or

Amino acids are critical, basic, to health. Taurine, methionine, etc.,

etc,. http://www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/chemistry/bio/amino-acids_en.html are

all part of foods - basiclly amino acids make up protein. You want to

discern between amino acids and free amino acids. I just had my Autistic

son tested (blood work) for his amino acid levels - it isn't something, imo,

one should pursue supplementing without first having a solid baseline from

which to begin. There's some promising work being done out of Cambridge,

Mass, with taurine supplementation for bi-polar, etc., but like everything

else, it's a balancing act - too much of a good thing can be just as bad as

not enough. Here's a good study on amino acids:

http://www.cryst.bbk.ac.uk/education/AminoAcid/overview.html

- do you run occasional blood panels to check your levels?

There's a lot of biochemistry that goes on with amino acids....here's

another link with information which addresses this:

http://www.nutramed.com/alphaaax/lowprotein_diet.htm

Note....one of the benefits of eating sprouted grains/seeds/legumes is that

the amino acids are " freed up " through the sprouting process, so if you want

to go a " natural " source without supplementing, this is a great area to

begin, if you aren't doing so already.

Sharon

On 6/8/06, ALLYN FERRIS <aferris7272@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks for your response. I have read Dr. Crooks book years ago in

> dealing with my ex husbands Candida issues and I will dig it back out. I

> will be eagerly awaiting the time when you have to go into the free aminos

> but I will start a research on these as well.

> Thanks again,

> Allyn

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

ITA w Sharon about the importance of testing. I've gotten my tests

in the past through Metametrix (bloodspot amino acid), but I noticed

that Doctor's Data has a blood analysis now with a more interesting

report. It will tell you, based on your amino profile, what

vitamins and minerals you are likely to be deficient in. I've been

off of the aminos for months, but think I'll get a follow-up test

when I've got some cash.

The Metametrix test is about $125 through a doctor. My guess is

that the Doctor's Data test is in the ballpark. I had mine tested

last about nine months ago, so the prices may be a bit higher.

Based on the results, they refer you to a supplement company

Metabolic Maintenace. They add certain aminos to their

regular " base blend " based on your blood profile. The base blend

does not include aspartate, but does contain phenylalanine. But it

helped with my depression so much and so quickly that I would use

the supplement again in a New York minute.

A lot of people take a trial-and-error approach with aminos because

the lab work is so expensive. For people who would otherwise be

taking a trial-and-error approach with anti-depressants, I don't

discourage them. _The Mood Cure_ is a good place to begin in this

case and is a good book regardless.

[Guest guest]

Dear Sharon:

I have had my amino acid levels tested twice (via RBC), once in 1997

and once in 1999. I now believe that amino acid tests are not of

any great use at all, as one can rather readily change

(significantly boost) the overall amino acid status in their blood

within a week or two if they know what they are doing.

Out of the various lab tests that alternative medicine proposes are

helpful to us, the amino acid test via RBC has very limited value in

my opinion, if not is close to worthless.

Incidentally, although I will probably never get any credit for it,

the study (or studies) of taurine for bipolar disorder coming out of

Boston were a result of my direct efforts in the Boston area in the

late 1990's. Stoll got taurine from me. A number of other

Boston area psychiatrists are also using some concepts and ideas

that I gave to them as well, via repeated trips to Boston and much

email correspondence directed that way in 1997 though 2000 or so.

However, not one of these doctors ever even thanked me, nor was any

of these doctors in Boston ever willing to listen to my whole story,

despite the fact that I offered such for free to them for years in

an attempt to help them understand my illness such that they could

help their bipolar patients more.

One problem here is that taurine is only one very small piece of the

puzzle of resolving bipolar... the docs still don't have a real

solid picture yet of what they are doing in regard to having a

comprehensive grasp of the causes of bipolar disorder or what are

some of its best treatments yet for sure. The doctors are still way

behind some of their patients in gaining such understanding, or so I

think anyway. But they will never admit this... after all they are

the doctors, and we are " the mentally ill " . No doctor is in any

hurry to admit that a patient of theirs knows a ton more about

bipolar disorder than he or she does, they would simply label the

patient who claimed such as being " manic delusional " ...

All the best,

>

> Allyn...or

> Amino acids are critical, basic, to health. Taurine, methionine,

etc.,

> etc,. http://www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/chemistry/bio/amino-

acids_en.html are

> all part of foods - basiclly amino acids make up protein. You

want to

> discern between amino acids and free amino acids. I just had my

Autistic

> son tested (blood work) for his amino acid levels - it isn't

something, imo,

> one should pursue supplementing without first having a solid

baseline from

> which to begin. There's some promising work being done out of

Cambridge,

> Mass, with taurine supplementation for bi-polar, etc., but like

everything

> else, it's a balancing act - too much of a good thing can be just

as bad as

> not enough. Here's a good study on amino acids:

> http://www.cryst.bbk.ac.uk/education/AminoAcid/overview.html

>

> - do you run occasional blood panels to check your levels?

>

> There's a lot of biochemistry that goes on with amino

acids....here's

> another link with information which addresses this:

> http://www.nutramed.com/alphaaax/lowprotein_diet.htm

>

> Note....one of the benefits of eating sprouted

grains/seeds/legumes is that

> the amino acids are " freed up " through the sprouting process, so

if you want

> to go a " natural " source without supplementing, this is a great

area to

> begin, if you aren't doing so already.

>

> Sharon

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Small world. Here's one of the studies I mentioned, which includes your

" Stoll " and my son's doctor.

http://www.mclean.harvard.edu/research/bipolar/ - During our last visit

with the doctor, a few weeks ago, I mentioned taurine to see if there was

any knowledge/familiarity. They just about fell out of their chair asking,

" how in the world would you know about taurine " . I talked about some of

the studying I do and the comment was I was " leading edge " , highly unique.

I clued them in that many people/parents are " leading edge " . I didn't voice

my thoughts, " not in the dark ages of straight-jacket drugs " .... There

seems to be an effort with some of the psychiatrists I've met, to back away

from meds. This doctor, in particular, is really " with it " when it comes

to nutrition, stating their fervent wish is more parents would recognize the

critical part it plays in Autism. She's convinced Vitamin C, for instance,

will severely reduce my son's " stimming " . I found that incredibly

refreshing.

It's a pleasure to read your views, . I was obtaining my Master's in

Christian Bibilical Counseling a few years back - Nouthetic Counseling, to

be more specific. Nouthetic Counseling doesn't " believe " in mental illness

so it fit in well with my own philosophy.

Best regards,

Sharon

On 6/9/06, Darman <allen_dar@...> wrote:

>

> Dear Sharon:

>

> I have had my amino acid levels tested twice (via RBC), once in 1997

> and once in 1999. I now believe that amino acid tests are not of

> any great use at all, as one can rather readily change

> (significantly boost) the overall amino acid status in their blood

> within a week or two if they know what they are doing.

>

> Out of the various lab tests that alternative medicine proposes are

> helpful to us, the amino acid test via RBC has very limited value in

> my opinion, if not is close to worthless.

>

> Incidentally, although I will probably never get any credit for it,

> the study (or studies) of taurine for bipolar disorder coming out of

> Boston were a result of my direct efforts in the Boston area in the

> late 1990's. Stoll got taurine from me. A number of other

> Boston area psychiatrists are also using some concepts and ideas

> that I gave to them as well, via repeated trips to Boston and much

> email correspondence directed that way in 1997 though 2000 or so.

> However, not one of these doctors ever even thanked me, nor was any

> of these doctors in Boston ever willing to listen to my whole story,

> despite the fact that I offered such for free to them for years in

> an attempt to help them understand my illness such that they could

> help their bipolar patients more.

>

> One problem here is that taurine is only one very small piece of the

> puzzle of resolving bipolar... the docs still don't have a real

> solid picture yet of what they are doing in regard to having a

> comprehensive grasp of the causes of bipolar disorder or what are

> some of its best treatments yet for sure. The doctors are still way

> behind some of their patients in gaining such understanding, or so I

> think anyway. But they will never admit this... after all they are

> the doctors, and we are " the mentally ill " . No doctor is in any

> hurry to admit that a patient of theirs knows a ton more about

> bipolar disorder than he or she does, they would simply label the

> patient who claimed such as being " manic delusional " ...

>

> All the best,

>

>

>

> --- In < %40>,

> " Sharon son "

>

>

[Guest guest]

On 6/9/06, Sharon son <skericson@...> wrote:

> Amino acids are critical, basic, to health. Taurine, methionine, etc.,

> etc,. http://www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/chemistry/bio/amino-acids_en.html are

> all part of foods - basiclly amino acids make up protein. You want to

> discern between amino acids and free amino acids.

This is just semantics, but technically there is no differentiation

between " amino acids " and " free amino acids. " If the amino acids are

bound in proteins, they aren't individual molecules anymore, nor are

they carboxylic acids, and therefore they are not amino acids, so they

are called " amino acid residues " or just " residues. "

Chris

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[Guest guest]

> This is just semantics, but technically there is no differentiation

> between " amino acids " and " free amino acids. " ...

*threadjack*

do you know anything about branched-chain amino acids and, if so, will

you tell me what you know and your opinion of same?

B.

[Guest guest]

On 6/9/06, Sharon son wrote:

> Amino acids are critical, basic, to health. Taurine, methionine, etc.,

> etc,. http://www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/chemistry/bio/amino-acids_en.html are

> all part of foods - basiclly amino acids make up protein. You want to

> discern between amino acids and free amino acids.

This is just semantics, but technically there is no differentiation

between " amino acids " and " free amino acids. " If the amino acids are

bound in proteins, they aren't individual molecules anymore, nor are

they carboxylic acids, and therefore they are not amino acids, so they

are called " amino acid residues " or just " residues. "

Chris

Like the beta-endorphin residue sequence I sent the other day?

The amino acid residue sequence (primary structure) of â-

endorphin is: Tyr-Gly-Gly-Phe-Met-Thr-Ser-Glu-Lys-Ser-Gln-Thr-Pro-

Leu-Val-Thr-Leu-Phe-Lys-Asn-Ala-Ile-Ile-Lys-Asn-Ala-Tyr-Lys-Lys-Gly-

GluOH (Fries, 2002)

Although this residue processes to not necessarily a good thing.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endorphin

> Beta-endorphin has the highest affinity for the Mu1-opioid

receptor, slightly lower affinity for the Mu2 and Delta-opioid

receptors and low affinity for the Kappa1-opioid receptors. Mu

receptors are the main receptor through which morphine acts.

Classically, Mu receptors are presynaptic, and inhibit

neurotransmitter release; through this mechanism, they inhibit the

release of the inhibitory neurotransmitter GABA, and disinhibit the

dopamine pathways, causing more dopamine to be released. By

hijacking this process, exogenous opioids cause inappropriate

dopamine release, and lead to aberrant synaptic plasticity which

causes addiction.

Wanita

[Guest guest]

On 6/10/06, Wanita <wanitawa@...> wrote:

>> This is just semantics, but technically there is no differentiation

>> between " amino acids " and " free amino acids. " If the amino acids are

>> bound in proteins, they aren't individual molecules anymore, nor are

>> they carboxylic acids, and therefore they are not amino acids, so they

>> are called " amino acid residues " or just " residues. "

> Like the beta-endorphin residue sequence I sent the other day?

Yes, any peptide or protein is made up of amino acid residues,

including beta-endorphin. They are called amino acids when they are

free, and residues when they are joined together.

Chris

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[Guest guest]

On 6/10/06, Masterjohn <chrismasterjohn@...> wrote:

> > Like the beta-endorphin residue sequence I sent the other day?

> Yes, any peptide or protein is made up of amino acid residues,

> including beta-endorphin. They are called amino acids when they are

> free, and residues when they are joined together.

Oh, just to be clear, what you sent was not the sequence of a residue,

but the sequence of a peptide. Each individual part of that sequence

is an amino acid residue.

Saying it is a sequence of residues is the same thing as saying it is

a sequence of amino acids, only the former is correct and the latter

is sloppy.

Chris

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