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We need way more information. Do you have any experience fasting? What are

your goals and reasons for something so drastic? A liquid only diet, lasting

weeks, (especially like the previous poster mentioned containing only sugar

water) is downright dangerous. To add insult to injury, you're adding " vitamins

and supplements? "

-Terry>>

It's mid-Winter and I'm feeling sluggish and have put on 10 pounds. I figure

this will give my colon a rest and will be a great tonic. Yes drinking canned

juice and fresh. What kinds do you recommend? What health benefits can I

expect to experience?

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What is the fast for? What are you trying to accomplish?

Are these fresh juices? I would NEVER recommend doing a fast with

bottled juice as it is void of nutrition and only sugar.

I would be glad to give suggestions but I don't know what you are trying

to do :)

FASTING Questions

I started a fast last Thurs and eaten no sold food now. Drinking apple

juice

and pineapple juice and cherry juice and water. And taking vitamins and

supplements. I plan on fasting (that is, liquid only) for several weeks.

Any

suggestions or thoughts will be appreciated.

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We need way more information. Do you have any experience fasting? What are

your goals and reasons for something so drastic? A liquid only diet, lasting

weeks, (especially like the previous poster mentioned containing only sugar

water) is downright dangerous. To add insult to injury, you're adding " vitamins

and supplements? "

-Terry

FASTING Questions

I started a fast last Thurs and eaten no sold food now. Drinking apple juice

and pineapple juice and cherry juice and water. And taking vitamins and

supplements. I plan on fasting (that is, liquid only) for several weeks. Any

suggestions or thoughts will be appreciated.

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I would NOT recommend this type of fast EVER. This is very dangerous.

NEVER should you fast with bottled juice....actually never should you

DRINK it!!

And I have never seen a healthy fast on juice only that lasted for weeks

at a time with a doctors care. There are SO many factors that are

necessary to take into consideration. Fasting for weight loss is is

not healthy. You will be doing extreme damage to your system.

Also....what supplements are you taking? Are you having any real

" health " issues or just feeling sluggish? I would do a a milk fast if I

felt a liquid diet was necessary but that would again only be in an

extreme circumstance where gut healing was necessary.

So....to answer you questions (without really having info on what you

plan is here).....there are NO healthy benefits to what you are doing.

Re: FASTING Questions

We need way more information. Do you have any experience fasting? What

are

your goals and reasons for something so drastic? A liquid only diet,

lasting

weeks, (especially like the previous poster mentioned containing only

sugar

water) is downright dangerous. To add insult to injury, you're adding

" vitamins

and supplements? "

-Terry>>

It's mid-Winter and I'm feeling sluggish and have put on 10 pounds. I

figure

this will give my colon a rest and will be a great tonic. Yes drinking

canned

juice and fresh. What kinds do you recommend? What health benefits can I

expect to experience?

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rstump@... writes:

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> I would NOT recommend this type of fast EVER. This is very dangerous.

> NEVER should you fast with bottled juice....actually never should you

> DRINK it!!

>

> And I have never seen a healthy fast on juice only that lasted for weeks

> at a time with a doctors care. There are SO many factors that are

> necessary to take into consideration. >>

The canned juice is a killer, eh? Been on the fast now, drinking just fruit

juice and water, taking supplements, calcium, mg, some potassium, selenium for

about a week. I'm not on the fast to lose weight but have lost a couple

pounds. I have cut back on physical exercise, doing nothing strenuous. I feel

good.

Sleeping a bit more.

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I am wondering where you go the recommendation to do this type of fast?

a book? or just something you are throwing together?

What supplements are you taking?

Juice out of a bottle has been pasteurized so it is just sugar water at

that point. It will sustain life but NOT health. You would be better

off doing a water fast for a very short time than using juice. Sugar

reduces your immune system by 50% for up to 6 hours after consuming it

so right now you basically have zero immune system. I would be very

careful.

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rstump@.... <mailto:rstump%40cfl.rr.com> com writes:

>

> I would NOT recommend this type of fast EVER. This is very dangerous.

> NEVER should you fast with bottled juice....actually never should you

> DRINK it!!

>

> And I have never seen a healthy fast on juice only that lasted for

weeks

> at a time with a doctors care. There are SO many factors that are

> necessary to take into consideration. >>

The canned juice is a killer, eh? Been on the fast now, drinking just

fruit

juice and water, taking supplements, calcium, mg, some potassium,

selenium for

about a week. I'm not on the fast to lose weight but have lost a couple

pounds. I have cut back on physical exercise, doing nothing strenuous. I

feel good.

Sleeping a bit more.

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Juice out of a bottle has been pasteurized so it is just sugar water at

that point. It will sustain life but NOT health. You would be better

off doing a water fast for a very short time than using juice. Sugar

reduces your immune system by 50% for up to 6 hours after consuming it

so right now you basically have zero immune system. I would be very

careful.

>>

Interesting consideration that, , the pasteurization being high heat

treatment. What you say does make sense, there. With that in view, I went to

several health food stores where the folks are generally " over the top " about

organic stuff. I asked for juices which were not pasteurized. The attendant

showed

me...and each one said Pasteurized, either on the bottle or the lid. These

were all in glass or plastic bottles, but still said pasteurized. I went to

Walmart and in the produce aisle bought a couple bottles of juice in bottles

that

specifically said NOT Pasteurized and NOT from concentrate. WalMart is the

place to go, when the health food stores come up short.

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So there are raw juices at Walmart? What were the brands? I have been

looking for unpasteurized juice that I don't have to make myself so this is

great news. : ) Shery

Interesting consideration that, , the pasteurization being high heat

treatment. What you say does make sense, there. With that in view, I went to

several health food stores where the folks are generally " over the top "

about

organic stuff. I asked for juices which were not pasteurized. The attendant

showed

me...and each one said Pasteurized, either on the bottle or the lid. These

were all in glass or plastic bottles, but still said pasteurized. I went to

Walmart and in the produce aisle bought a couple bottles of juice in bottles

that

specifically said NOT Pasteurized and NOT from concentrate. WalMart is the

place to go, when the health food stores come up short.

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What type of juice did you find?

Other than fresh squeezed citrus juice I have never seen juice sold in a

store (such as wal-mart) that wasn't pasteurized. Maybe in juice

bars...but nothing that has been bottled.

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Juice out of a bottle has been pasteurized so it is just sugar water at

that point. It will sustain life but NOT health. You would be better

off doing a water fast for a very short time than using juice. Sugar

reduces your immune system by 50% for up to 6 hours after consuming it

so right now you basically have zero immune system. I would be very

careful.

>>

Interesting consideration that, , the pasteurization being high

heat

treatment. What you say does make sense, there. With that in view, I

went to

several health food stores where the folks are generally " over the top "

about

organic stuff. I asked for juices which were not pasteurized. The

attendant showed

me...and each one said Pasteurized, either on the bottle or the lid.

These

were all in glass or plastic bottles, but still said pasteurized. I went

to

Walmart and in the produce aisle bought a couple bottles of juice in

bottles that

specifically said NOT Pasteurized and NOT from concentrate. WalMart is

the

place to go, when the health food stores come up short.

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My local Whole Foods (Omaha, NE) carries freshly squeezed Orange juice

- but it is very expensive. Half gallon regular is 6.99 and organic is

7.99.

Sanjay

>

> What type of juice did you find?

>

> Other than fresh squeezed citrus juice I have never seen juice sold in a

> store (such as wal-mart) that wasn't pasteurized. Maybe in juice

> bars...but nothing that has been bottled.

>

>

>

>

> Re: FASTING Questions

>

>

>

> Juice out of a bottle has been pasteurized so it is just sugar water at

> that point. It will sustain life but NOT health. You would be better

> off doing a water fast for a very short time than using juice. Sugar

> reduces your immune system by 50% for up to 6 hours after consuming it

> so right now you basically have zero immune system. I would be very

> careful.

>

> >>

>

> Interesting consideration that, , the pasteurization being high

> heat

> treatment. What you say does make sense, there. With that in view, I

> went to

> several health food stores where the folks are generally " over the top "

> about

> organic stuff. I asked for juices which were not pasteurized. The

> attendant showed

> me...and each one said Pasteurized, either on the bottle or the lid.

> These

> were all in glass or plastic bottles, but still said pasteurized. I went

> to

> Walmart and in the produce aisle bought a couple bottles of juice in

> bottles that

> specifically said NOT Pasteurized and NOT from concentrate. WalMart is

> the

> place to go, when the health food stores come up short.

>

> .

>

>

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You might want to do your homework when going to Walmart. Although

their label claims the item in " NOT " pasteurized, that might not

actually be the case. Please check out the article below:

http://walmartwatch.com/blog/archives/is_wal_mart_mislabeling_organics/

I went to

> Walmart and in the produce aisle bought a couple bottles of juice in

> bottles that

> specifically said NOT Pasteurized and NOT from concentrate. WalMart is

> the

> place to go, when the health food stores come up short.

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tben@... writes:

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> I SERIOUSLY doubt that Wal-Mart carries fresh juices. Remember fresh juice

> has a shelf life of about 48 hours. With its 6,000 mile assembly chain

> operative, this goes directly against the grain of what Wal-Mart is. If its

on a

> store shelf, any store, then that product will be processed to keep it

> shelf-stable.>>

Go to the produce aisle (potatoes, carrots, etc) of WMT and look for juices

in bottles. They have several varieties. The flavor I bought was something like

Guava, Mango blend. They also have Pomegranate and others. When the other

poster started talking about Pasteurized, that got me thinking. I went in couple

health food stores, and was astonished to see that ALL their juices are

Pasteurized. Their prices are 5 times that of WMT, as well. What do you see in

YOUR

health food stores? Am I right? Btw, in a week on my liquid fast, I feel

great, may have lost 3 pounds, but losing weight is not my primary intent.

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I SERIOUSLY doubt that Wal-Mart carries fresh juices. Remember fresh juice has

a shelf life of about 48 hours. With its 6,000 mile assembly chain operative,

this goes directly against the grain of what Wal-Mart is. If its on a store

shelf, any store, then that product will be processed to keep it shelf-stable.

Terry

RE: FASTING Questions

So there are raw juices at Walmart? What were the brands? I have been

looking for unpasteurized juice that I don't have to make myself so this is

great news. : ) Shery

Interesting consideration that, , the pasteurization being high heat

treatment. What you say does make sense, there. With that in view, I went to

several health food stores where the folks are generally " over the top "

about

organic stuff. I asked for juices which were not pasteurized. The attendant

showed

me...and each one said Pasteurized, either on the bottle or the lid. These

were all in glass or plastic bottles, but still said pasteurized. I went to

Walmart and in the produce aisle bought a couple bottles of juice in bottles

that

specifically said NOT Pasteurized and NOT from concentrate. WalMart is the

place to go, when the health food stores come up short.

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Why no broth?

-Lana

On 2/13/07, Chaelcon@... <Chaelcon@...> wrote:

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> I started a fast last Thurs and eaten no sold food now. Drinking apple

> juice

> and pineapple juice and cherry juice and water. And taking vitamins and

> supplements. I plan on fasting (that is, liquid only) for several weeks.

> Any

> suggestions or thoughts will be appreciated.

>

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And now that I'm thinking about it... why fruit juice and no vegetable

juice?

-Lana

On 2/13/07, Chaelcon@... <Chaelcon@... > wrote:

> >

> > I started a fast last Thurs and eaten no sold food now. Drinking apple

> > juice

> > and pineapple juice and cherry juice and water. And taking vitamins and

> > supplements. I plan on fasting (that is, liquid only) for several weeks.

> > Any

> > suggestions or thoughts will be appreciated.

> >

>

>

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Is one of the major benefits of fasting the elimination of Candida, due to the

lack of sugar to feed it. Does anyone have some thoughts on this?

Ralph

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There's plenty of sugar in fruit juice. If you were going to be fighting

off Candida, you should probably stick to broth and veggie juice, but I

don't know if that would provide enough calories.

-Lana

On 2/17/07, ralph tillman <ralphtillman@...> wrote:

>

> Is one of the major benefits of fasting the elimination of Candida, due to

> the lack of sugar to feed it. Does anyone have some thoughts on this?

>

> Ralph

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They are still pasteurized juices. Some are what they call " flash

pasteurized " but I have never seen fresh juice at wal-mart.

I would LOVE to know the brand that you bought....because I just don't

think it is even legal for them to sell.

I still haven't figured out what you goal is for this fast? health

concerns? And if you are following a book/doctor?

Fruits juice fasts....especially with bottled juices are just not

something of being done...even by raw vegans!

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tben@... <mailto:tben%40erols.com> writes:

>

> I SERIOUSLY doubt that Wal-Mart carries fresh juices. Remember fresh

juice

> has a shelf life of about 48 hours. With its 6,000 mile assembly chain

> operative, this goes directly against the grain of what Wal-Mart is.

If its on a

> store shelf, any store, then that product will be processed to keep it

> shelf-stable.>>

Go to the produce aisle (potatoes, carrots, etc) of WMT and look for

juices

in bottles. They have several varieties. The flavor I bought was

something like

Guava, Mango blend. They also have Pomegranate and others. When the

other

poster started talking about Pasteurized, that got me thinking. I went

in couple

health food stores, and was astonished to see that ALL their juices are

Pasteurized. Their prices are 5 times that of WMT, as well. What do you

see in YOUR

health food stores? Am I right? Btw, in a week on my liquid fast, I feel

great, may have lost 3 pounds, but losing weight is not my primary

intent.

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There are many different reasons for fasting or doing liquid fasts!

Personally I have never seen nor heard of a purely fruit juice

fast...especially with bottled juices.

I don't think the OP...has a real goal in mind and seems to be just

playing around with their health without any real knowledge nor goal to

what they are doing. A very risky and unhealthy idea. IMO

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Is one of the major benefits of fasting the elimination of Candida, due

to the lack of sugar to feed it. Does anyone have some thoughts on this?

Ralph

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Walmart carries Bolthouse Farms juice. I've bought the carrot juice and it's

good!

http://www.bolthouse.com/juice_main.html

Leah

On 2/16/07, Terry Benouameur <tben@...> wrote:

>

> I SERIOUSLY doubt that Wal-Mart carries fresh juices. Remember fresh

> juice has a shelf life of about 48 hours. With its 6,000 mile assembly

> chain operative, this goes directly against the grain of what Wal-Mart

> is. If its on a store shelf, any store, then that product will be processed

> to keep it shelf-stable.

>

>

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The company says they are flash-pasteurized. : ( Shery

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Walmart carries Bolthouse Farms juice. I've bought the carrot juice and it's

good!

http://www.bolthous <http://www.bolthouse.com/juice_main.html>

e.com/juice_main.html

Leah

On 2/16/07, Terry Benouameur <tben@... <mailto:tben%40erols.com> >

wrote:

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> I SERIOUSLY doubt that Wal-Mart carries fresh juices. Remember fresh

> juice has a shelf life of about 48 hours. With its 6,000 mile assembly

> chain operative, this goes directly against the grain of what Wal-Mart

> is. If its on a store shelf, any store, then that product will be

processed

> to keep it shelf-stable.

>

>

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Again...I would LOVE to know what brands you found and purchased because

it not only is very unlikely...it is not legal.

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Walmart carries Bolthouse Farms juice. I've bought the carrot juice and

it's

good!

http://www.bolthous <http://www.bolthouse.com/juice_main.html>

e.com/juice_main.html

Leah>>

WalMart carries many types of fresh fruit juice, in the produce aisle.

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But she is stating as a rule you should only be using fresh juice...if

you are making your own....veggie juice is not harder to come by. It

would have far more nutrition and far less sugar.

If anything I would look at adding fresh veggies juices/bone broth/raw

milk. There is a great raw milk diet available and has been advised

for many healthy concerns.

Again...just REALLY confused as to what you are doing a fruit juice fast

for?

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lana.m.gibbons@ <mailto:lana.m.gibbons%40gmail.com> gmail.com writes:

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> And now that I'm thinking about it... why fruit juice and no vegetable

> juice?>>

It's harder to come by.

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