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Hi ,

Maybe HSP? But maybe not, if it's just one leg that is affected. It's too bad

neurologists can't all be up on these rare disorders. There is A LOT of

misdiagnosis.

HSP is a cousin to PLS. It is degeneration in the ends of the long axon in the

spinal cord. It causes spastic paraparesis (stiffness and weakness) in the

lower extremeties. It is slowly progressive. It affects both sides pretty much

the same.

HSP can also have other symptoms, but the above is the hallmark. There isn't

always evident family history, for many reasons, so that's why some people get

diagnosed with PLS when it is sometimes HSP.

good luck,

Kathi

HSPer

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, couldn't have said it better everything she has said was true

for me too first the right leg dragged then extreme fatigue then burning

sensation in the right arm but that comes and goes sometimes it does show up

for months at a time. I have tried vitimins,excersise etc. I finally made

up my mind to get back to LIFE do what I can and try not to worry about what

I can't fix. I know its hard at first you try everything humanly possible

but the fact is we have to wait for science to try and figure this thing out.

Some of us are at the beginning and some of us have been around a long time

(that's a good thing). Like said find yourself a good neurologist

that's a start. I have had PLS for 6 years now and during that time I have

stayed about the same. I started to have voice problems in 1991 but had no

other symptoms so I really don't know if that was the start of PLS so maybe I

have had this for 10 years?? Everyone will be different some worse then

others no one really knows why. Keep your chin up and the best thing is talk

to the bunch of us..

Flora/St sburg Fl.

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--- Orme wrote:

> I would like to know if anyone diagnosed with PLS

> has symptoms in only one

> leg, or in only 1 area for a period of time, not

> affecting any other areas

,

My first symptom was in my right leg only. I had foot

drag only when I was tired. This went on for approx.

2 years, but during that time, I had minor problems

with my right arm feeling tired, then slight problems

started in the left leg, but they were really slight,

and my other main symptom was excessive and

overwhelming fatigue. I believe others have had

similar onset of one limb. It can take a long time

for other symptoms to develop. The bad news is that

your progression might be so slow that it will take

more time before your disease " reveals " itself fully.

But that might be the " good news " , depending on how

you look at it. :-)

I know it is really frustrating, knowing something is

going wrong and not having an answer as to what it is.

You want to get a diagnosis, so you can do something

to halt or slow the progression. You feel that if you

wait much longer, you'll lose more function, and that

is really scary. At least, that is how I felt prior

to my diagnosis. Somehow, I felt if I had a

diagnosis, I could then come up with a " plan " to make

it get better, or at least, stop it from getting

worse.

Unfortunately, getting a diagnosis leads to whole set

of new problems. There just isn't enough known about

motor neuron diseases in general. And since there are

so many variations, the individual disease populations

are small, further hampering research that might lead

to therapies. So if you get a diagnosis of PLS, then

the reality hits that you can't do anything to stop

the progression of the disease. That is really

depressing! I'm not sure what is worse, not knowing

or knowing and not being able to do anything about it.

Either way, you feel pretty helpless!

I would suggest searching out a " PLS " friendly

neurologist. Someone that has a very solid grasp on

what PLS is. You can search for one at this site:

http://www.wfnals.org/Clinics.htm That is how I

found my neurologist, Dr. Armon. I looked for

mention of PLS or experience in diagnosing difficult

cases.

Best of luck in your search,

=====

Thomson, Solana Beach, CA

www.geocities.com/mdmfoo/pls.html

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Hi ,

This is Beth! Nice to meet you! I first started to develop symptoms in 1991

- only in my legs. And that is where I am today! My walking has gotten much

worse since then tho. Foot drop, loss of balance, staggering, etc. I

finally swallowed my pride in 1999 & started to use a can. I had AFO's for a

while but one neurologist said not to use them because they were causing the

big muscle on the back of my legs to stiffen more. Because of foot drop I

tried to wear them again recently. And now they don't help with my foot drop

at all. I had a terrible time getting a diagnosis. Wasn't until 1998 at the

Mayo Clinic. Take care. Beth

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Hi ,

I have a friend with only one leg involved for over 14 years. He was persistent and finally found a Neuro who DXed the problem after 12 years. He found an MS lesion causing the problem. It was always there, just hard to see. So far he has no other problems.

Good luck, and count your blessings!

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Beth,and anyone one else, Hi! I just got AFO's and it has been one big

educational experience. The AFO's did not work to help the foot drop like

I was told. I finally found and went to a Store called Foot Solutions.

They helped me find a pair of shoes that the AFO's work in and the very

best little thing called a GEL TOE CREST ( I can't remember who on PLS

friends mentioned them but thank you so much!). No more toe curl (or very

little under stress), very little pain now from toe curl. My balance has

greatly improved, just how many falls I didn't have to suffer God only

knows. The gentlemen who helped me said that the muscles would remember

and that the toes wouldn't curl after I took them off (right!). Well he

was right, in the morning when I get out of bed my toes don't curl and I

don't fall and no pain from muscle spasms in my feet. I now walk and

stand better (with my walker), and getting up from a sitting position is

so much easier. I use the Toe Crests all the time now. I hope that they

well help other people like they have helped me. I was falling backwards

and now with the AFO's and the toe crest I am feel under more under

control. Thank you again for being there, B.,Oregon

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Hi ,

congrats on your AFO, shoes, and inserts. WOW, sounds like you're

ready to go dancing!!! :))

these " gel toe crest " thingy's.....can we get them anywhere?

I also have the toes like fists. I take meds for them....which helps

a bit, but I'd so love to get off some of these meds and try things

naturally. even with meds, though,, they still fist up when I'm tense

or trying to go up stairs and sometimes when I drive.

Does your new AFO bend at the ankle and have hinges and springs?

I know Beth's do not......I've been meaning to send you a pic, Beth,

of my AFO's so you know what I'm talking about. my toes don't drag

at all with these kind......BUT, it is still kind of difficult to

drive. BUT, I'm gonna get out there and drive till they take my car

away from me! LOL

maggie

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Maggie, " Recommended for the Toe Pain by (Foot.com) " ,Website for info -

www.footsolutions.com . The brand name is ANTI-SHOX, APEX, Gel toe crest.

I have been trying to find somewhere I can order them but haven't had any

luck so far. I just can't believe how they can make such a difference. I

went to my therapist on Thursday and he couldn't believe how easily I was

able to get up and I didn't have my AFO's on just the toe crests. I paid

$11.00 a each, one left one right and that is all they had. If someone

finds a place where we can order them please let me know. I am also

taking meds for the toe clawing and I was told that the Baclofen pump

would help. If I up the Baclofen then the rest of my body is too weak. I

hope that this info helps. Take care B. Oregon

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Maggie, By the way my HMO would not pay for the AFO's that bend at the

ankle. The MDA wanted me to have them but my HMO would only pay for the

cheapest AFO's. MY HMO is noted for not helping so the MDA has made an

exception in my case and has been helping me.

I really don't think they are going to be happy when they see what I

have. Another Hospital in the area said they would help me but first I

had to try mine. I well see in February when I go back to the MDA. I

would also like to see what your AFO's look like. Take care, B.

Oregon

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Hi Maggie!

I still can't imagine your AFO's with hinges & springs! So, please do send

me a picture if you can! I'm happy to hear that they've helped with your

dragging toes. Sometimes my toes are about a mile behind me. They need to

catch up to the rest of my body!!

It was really hard to drive with the solid AFO's that I had. I did get used

to it but it wasn't easy. And the falls that I had with them were worse than

without the AFO's.

Take care. Keep in touch. Beth

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I am interested in this Toe Crest you are talking about. I do have curling

toes however I do not walk but was wondering if they would help my toes. I

do wear shoes so I can stand at the bathroom sink for a few minutes. I'd

like any help I could get on this.

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> Beth,and anyone one else, Hi! I just got AFO's and it has been one big

> educational experience. The AFO's did not work to help the foot drop like

> I was told. I finally found and went to a Store called Foot Solutions.

> They helped me find a pair of shoes that the AFO's work in and the very

> best little thing called a GEL TOE CREST ( I can't remember who on PLS

> friends mentioned them but thank you so much!). No more toe curl (or very

> little under stress), very little pain now from toe curl. My balance has

> greatly improved, just how many falls I didn't have to suffer God only

> knows. The gentlemen who helped me said that the muscles would remember

> and that the toes wouldn't curl after I took them off (right!). Well he

> was right, in the morning when I get out of bed my toes don't curl and I

> don't fall and no pain from muscle spasms in my feet. I now walk and

> stand better (with my walker), and getting up from a sitting position is

> so much easier. I use the Toe Crests all the time now. I hope that they

> well help other people like they have helped me. I was falling backwards

> and now with the AFO's and the toe crest I am feel under more under

> control. Thank you again for being there, B.,Oregon

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I agree! The solid AFO's were awful. Almost impossible to drive in. And

the falls that I had in them hurt so much. Seemed like with them on I went

crashing to the floor without any control at all. I had one pair of shoes

that I could wear them in.

The Mayo Clinic said that these AFO's would be a big help to me. But then

another local neurologist said no - that they were causing the big muscle or

tendon or whatever on the back of my legs to stiffen up even more. As usual,

no one could agree what would be the best thing for me!!! Finally, I decided

that no one knew & they were just grasping at straws! Beth

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I have had hinged AFO's for several years, after trying solid AFO's

for several months. The solid AFO's were awful. I couldn't go down

hills or stairs, nor could I drive. Life is so much better with the

hinged ones.

Mark

> Hi Maggie!

> I still can't imagine your AFO's with hinges & springs! So, please

do send

> me a picture if you can! I'm happy to hear that they've helped with

your

> dragging toes. Sometimes my toes are about a mile behind me. They

need to

> catch up to the rest of my body!!

> It was really hard to drive with the solid AFO's that I had. I did

get used

> to it but it wasn't easy. And the falls that I had with them were

worse than

> without the AFO's.

> Take care. Keep in touch. Beth

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Mark, I was told that I could not have a hinged AFO because my ankle

turns and that the sold AFO well help (wrong). Do you have the problem

with your ankles? What kind of AFO do you have? What company made them? I

am having the same trouble with stairs and hills, I take the right one

off to drive. I like the stability when standing and was told I just had

to get used to them. Thank you, B. Oregon

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, I don't know if the toe crests well help you but all we can do is

try. There is one very important thing the ALL Gel Toe Crest is the one

that worked for me. The one's with the elastic around the toe cased my

foot to go into spasms and my toes to claw more. Take Care, B.

Oregon

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, I don't know if the toe crests well help you but all we can do is

try. There is one very important thing the ALL Gel Toe Crest is the one

that worked for me. The one's with the elastic around the toe cased my

foot to go into spasms and my toes to claw more. Take Care, B.

Oregon

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CONGRATULATIONS CLAUDIA.

WE SURE ARE HAPPY THAT HAS GONE THROUGH FOR YOU.

BONNIE & DON

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> Hi! Everyone I just had to share, I got my SSDI!!!!!! It has been so

> hard. I don't know when I well get my first check but it should be

> coming. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HELP!!!!

> B. Oregon

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I don't have a problem with my ankles--other than they are somewhat

stiff. But I don't understand how a hinged AFO would be a problem if

your ankle turns. The hinge allows a short range of motion. And that

range of motion begins with your foot at a 90 degree angle to your

lower leg and ends with your toes raised somewhat. (This allows you

to do stairs and hills easier.) It is impossible to turn my ankle,

even slightly, with hinged AFO's.

I don't know the name of the company that made my AFO's. My

neurologist, a PT, and the AFO company's technician were all together

and working as a team to determine the best AFO's for me. They took a

plaster molds of my feet and lower legs, and decided that hinges were

OK. Then the company custom made the AFO's using the plaster molds.

Once they were made and fitted, I returned several times for minor

adjustments to prevent irritations to a couple of places on my legs.

I started by wearing the AFO's for 20-30 minutes the first day. The

next day (and every day thereafter) I added 20-30 minutes. I now put

them on after my shower, and keep them on until going to bed.

In addition to significantly reducing toe drop, they also help to

stabilize my walking.

I recommend that anyone with gait problems (all of us) ask your

neurologists about them.

Mark Weber

> Mark, I was told that I could not have a hinged AFO because my ankle

> turns and that the sold AFO well help (wrong). Do you have the problem

> with your ankles? What kind of AFO do you have? What company made

them? I

> am having the same trouble with stairs and hills, I take the right one

> off to drive. I like the stability when standing and was told I just had

> to get used to them. Thank you, B. Oregon

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Hi !!

I didn't have the knowledge to help you but I'm so happy that you get your

SSD!!! I know how much of a relief it is when I got my retirement

disability approved from the federal govt. which is where I worked. Take

care. Congratulations!!! Beth

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Mark, Everything that you said sounds right to me and that is also what

the MDA said. How far does you foot plate go up your foot? Are your AFO's

padded? Thank you so much for your help! B. Oregon

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Thanks for the reply and I'm sure I could not use it as my toes are bad now

anything tight would be worse.

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> , I don't know if the toe crests well help you but all we can do is

> try. There is one very important thing the ALL Gel Toe Crest is the one

> that worked for me. The one's with the elastic around the toe cased my

> foot to go into spasms and my toes to claw more. Take Care, B.

> Oregon

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Hi! Everyone I just had to share, I got my SSDI!!!!!! It has been so

hard. I don't know when I well get my first check but it should be

coming. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HELP!!!!

B. Oregon

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The foot plate on my AFO's go right up to (almost) the very end of my

toes. The AFO's are padded--but only in certain areas. The areas

around the hinge, the ankle, and the foot are all padded.

Mark

> Mark, Everything that you said sounds right to me and that is also what

> the MDA said. How far does you foot plate go up your foot? Are your

AFO's

> padded? Thank you so much for your help! B. Oregon

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