Yellow Teeth

March 23, 2003

My kids' front teeth have been coming in yellow. The dentist told me that

it is some kind of protective coating that eventually goes away.

Kathy

[ ] yellow teeth

> Hello listmates. My ADD son seems to have yellowing teeth. He just

> started getting CLO but the yellowing has been going on for a long

> time. What would cause an 8-yr old to have yellow teeth? He sees a

> dentist every six months, teeth are brushed 2x/day. Could it be lack

> of calcium? Thanks. Tina

>

> =======================================================

>

March 23, 2003

--- In , " tinalunabean " <lolabryn@a...>

wrote:

> Hello listmates. My ADD son seems to have yellowing teeth. He just

> started getting CLO but the yellowing has been going on for a long

> time. What would cause an 8-yr old to have yellow teeth? He sees a

> dentist every six months, teeth are brushed 2x/day. Could it be

lack

>o f calcium? Thanks. Tina

Tina,

My ADHD son, age 9, has the same problem. I always wondered why. We

always kept his teeth brushed and cleaned. On the DDI hair test, he

had extremely high calcium. I've been reading alot of your posts, I

think you are about the same place we are with all of this. Rae

October 16, 2004

We just added DMSA back in and our son's shins are looking " bruisy " .

[ ] yellow teeth

Hello all. Several months ago I posted about my son's teeth turning

yellow. I did not feel it was chelating that did this since I had

been chelating him for a year with ALA before the yellowing. We had

added DMSA in April and it was about June that his teeth started

turning. I removed the DMSA in August and his teeth have returned to

their pearly white. I continue to chelated with ALA. In our case, the

yellow teeth were from the DMSA. Just FYI. Tina

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October 16, 2004

> We just added DMSA back in and our son's shins are

looking " bruisy " .

> [ ] yellow teeth

> Tina,

Thanks for sharing that info with us. It makes me want to take mine

off of DMSA and just use ALA. I wonder if you use DMSA for a couple

of years if the teeth will still go back to their original color? I

have been concerned about what was causing their teeth color be so

awful. Thanks, Rae

> Hello all. Several months ago I posted about my son's teeth

turning

> yellow. I did not feel it was chelating that did this since I

had

> been chelating him for a year with ALA before the yellowing. We

had

> added DMSA in April and it was about June that his teeth started

> turning. I removed the DMSA in August and his teeth have

returned to

> their pearly white. I continue to chelated with ALA. In our

case, the

> yellow teeth were from the DMSA. Just FYI. Tina

>

> =======================================================

>

October 16, 2004

Is there anything in the archives that says something about mercury weakening or

softening the teeth? I wonder if DMSA or the combination of DMSA and ALA or

chelation may somehow goof with calcium distribution? (Probably not)

[ ] yellow teeth

> Tina,

Thanks for sharing that info with us. It makes me want to take mine

off of DMSA and just use ALA. I wonder if you use DMSA for a couple

of years if the teeth will still go back to their original color? I

have been concerned about what was causing their teeth color be so

awful. Thanks, Rae

> Hello all. Several months ago I posted about my son's teeth

turning

> yellow. I did not feel it was chelating that did this since I

had

> been chelating him for a year with ALA before the yellowing. We

had

> added DMSA in April and it was about June that his teeth started

> turning. I removed the DMSA in August and his teeth have

returned to

> their pearly white. I continue to chelated with ALA. In our

case, the

> yellow teeth were from the DMSA. Just FYI. Tina

>

> =======================================================

>

October 17, 2004

> Is there anything in the archives that says something about mercury

weakening or softening the teeth? I wonder if DMSA or the combination

of DMSA and ALA or chelation may somehow goof with calcium

distribution? (Probably not)

This may or may not have anything to do with the yellow teeth issue,

but on another message board about a year ago, someone posted that

after starting DMSA, her son developed osteoporosis. Pulling the lead

from the body had apparently caused it, because lead can be stored in

the bones, competing with calcium. This message here, made me think

of that. I wonder if lead was coming out of the teeth, causing them

to look yellow? Was this child high lead?

Dana

October 17, 2004

About that child developing osteoporosis after DMSA, did they know

for sure he didn't have osteoporosis before using the DMSA, as my son

has the beginings of osteoporosis, yellowish teeth, has developed the

teeth thing about a year ago, and we haven't done any chelating, only

doing supplements and Jill protocol since about May of this

year.And only for the fact we did a bone age x-ray for growth issue

would we have ever known about the begining of osteoporosis, never

fractured any bones. So it makes me wonder about it being there for

God knows how long.Our DAN said it is the Mercury that messes with

calcium metabolism, well perhaps in my son's case it has.

> > Is there anything in the archives that says something about

mercury

> weakening or softening the teeth? I wonder if DMSA or the

combination

> of DMSA and ALA or chelation may somehow goof with calcium

> distribution? (Probably not)

>

> This may or may not have anything to do with the yellow teeth issue,

> but on another message board about a year ago, someone posted that

> after starting DMSA, her son developed osteoporosis. Pulling the

lead

> from the body had apparently caused it, because lead can be stored

in

> the bones, competing with calcium. This message here, made me think

> of that. I wonder if lead was coming out of the teeth, causing them

> to look yellow? Was this child high lead?

>

> Dana

October 17, 2004

>

> About that child developing osteoporosis after DMSA, did they know

> for sure he didn't have osteoporosis before using the DMSA, as my son

> has the beginings of osteoporosis, yellowish teeth, has developed the

> teeth thing about a year ago, and we haven't done any chelating,

I don't remember if the mother posted that her son had osteoporosis

before chelating, or just after.

Possibly, if your child is VERY HIGH lead, he might have these

symptoms now, because there is too much lead in the teeth and bones,

and he has these problems because of lack of calcium.

I was just reminded by that message, that for a child with high lead,

getting the lead out of the bones [and/or teeth] can cause other

issues to become evident, that would need to be addressed.

>>Our DAN said it is the Mercury that messes with

> calcium metabolism, well perhaps in my son's case it has.

This might also be true. Have you done a hair test, to determine if

he is excreting calcium rather than retaining it? Do you supplement

calcium along with magnesium [calcium won't absorb well, if at all,

without magnesium].

Dana

October 17, 2004

[ ] Re: yellow teeth

> Is there anything in the archives that says something about mercury

weakening or softening the teeth? I wonder if DMSA or the combination

of DMSA and ALA or chelation may somehow goof with calcium

distribution? (Probably not)

This may or may not have anything to do with the yellow teeth issue,

but on another message board about a year ago, someone posted that

after starting DMSA, her son developed osteoporosis. Pulling the lead

from the body had apparently caused it, because lead can be stored in

the bones, competing with calcium. This message here, made me think

of that. I wonder if lead was coming out of the teeth, causing them

to look yellow? Was this child high lead?

Dana

Well, for sure coffee and cigarettes can be ruled out. That's about all I got

searching yellow teeth.) However, one site did mention that calcium does

yellow with exposure to air fairly rapidly. Another site mentions that some

calcium supplements do contain substantial amounts of lead.

From Kirkman's:

" Poor quality calcium supplements may contain a higher lead content than is

desirable. The United States Pharmacopoeia (USP) and the Food Chemicals Codex

are considered standards for quality materials used in supplements and the lead

tolerance in these publications is three parts per million (ppm), an acceptable

level to the Food and Drug Administration. Most reputable companies have adopted

these standards. It can also be pointed out that several high quality

pharmaceutical grades of calcium are also available which have lead levels far

below the 3 ppm accepted standard.

Another issue in quality calcium supplements is disintegration and dissolution

standards of the dosage form. A product must dissolve in the body to do any

good. Check with your manufacturer to insure that its calcium products meet USP

standards. "

I wonder if the yellowing maybe caused by calcium deposits relative to changes

in chemistry? (in that less lead may be enabling more calcium to stockpile?)

Our son was not particularly high in lead. Before chelation with DMSA and ALA

7/2002 DDI hair said 58 ppb Lead, and since starting DMSA/ALA a 7/2004 said 31

ppb Lead.

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October 17, 2004

On the yellow teeth and lead in the teeth and bones, this is a long

shot, but there is some support that fluoride is playing a role in what

is going on. A sign of fluorosis might be the yellowing the yellowing.

Fuorosis can cause problems with bone development. Excess fluoride has

been shown to cause an increased uptake of lead in the bones,

especially in areas where both exist in the environment. Very few

physicians are aware of this, but I have some citations to credible

literature supporting the foregoing, if you are interested. I do not

know what is done about it, but the confluence of the

conditions--yellowing teeth and high lead in bones and teeth-- caused

me to think of this.

RJK

Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:39:31 -0000

From: " danasview " <danasview@...>

Subject: Re: yellow teeth

>

> About that child developing osteoporosis after DMSA, did they know

> for sure he didn't have osteoporosis before using the DMSA, as my son

> has the beginings of osteoporosis, yellowish teeth, has developed the

> teeth thing about a year ago, and we haven't done any chelating,

I don't remember if the mother posted that her son had osteoporosis

before chelating, or just after.

Possibly, if your child is VERY HIGH lead, he might have these

symptoms now, because there is too much lead in the teeth and bones,

and he has these problems because of lack of calcium.

I was just reminded by that message, that for a child with high lead,

getting the lead out of the bones [and/or teeth] can cause other

issues to become evident, that would need to be addressed.

>> Our DAN said it is the Mercury that messes with

> calcium metabolism, well perhaps in my son's case it has.

This might also be true. Have you done a hair test, to determine if

he is excreting calcium rather than retaining it? Do you supplement

calcium along with magnesium [calcium won't absorb well, if at all,

without magnesium].

Dana

February 4, 2007

I know lots of folks, usually with very slightly darker complexions, who keep

good strong (very slightly larger than normal size) but YELLOWISH teeth. They

seem more resistant to cavities. I'm guessing that they have a " hybrid vigor "

being a slight admixture of Asian or American Indian genetics that gives the

yellowish teeth.

..

February 5, 2007

Chaelcon@... wrote:

> I know lots of folks, usually with very slightly darker complexions, who keep

> good strong (very slightly larger than normal size) but YELLOWISH teeth. They

> seem more resistant to cavities. I'm guessing that they have a " hybrid vigor "

> being a slight admixture of Asian or American Indian genetics that gives the

> yellowish teeth.

> .

>

This is true. My yellow-gray teeth haven't nary a cavity, lo these 43

years.

--s

June 7, 2008

Do they seem just yello or kind of blotchy and yello? My son had leaky

Gut but did not have yellow teeth. It could have something to do with

having too do whith somethingn he was taking when those teeth were

developing.

>

> Hi everyone-

>

> I brush and floss my AS son's teeth rigorously everyday, but he has an

> oncoming problem of yellow teeth. I have heard that some things can

> stain teeth yellow. But my son doesn't really eat or drink anything

> that would stain his teeth. Does anyone know if this is a sign of

> nutritional deficiency? I am hoping that all the changes I have been

> making with his supplements may help with this, but I don't know if it

> signifies a specific deficiency. I noticed in an nephew of mine (20

> yrs. old) who also has AS, that his teeth were extremely yellow.

> Anybody know if this is typical of those with leaky gut syndrome?

>

> Leigh

>

June 8, 2008

> I brush and floss my AS son's teeth rigorously everyday, but he has an

> oncoming problem of yellow teeth.

Check here

http://www.dentalgentlecare.com/what_ages_teeth.htm

Dana

June 8, 2008

My GS had yellow and nearly grey transparent looking teeth when we were

doing chelation. It was stripping all of the minerals out of his body. We

did UTEE and he was very very low in calcium. When we stopped chelation and

supplemented with Calcium they turned nice and white again! But we do Yasko

and have to be very careful not to get calcium levels too high so we do test

regularly.

chris

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