Re: two colds since starting NT

[Guest guest]

The only new thing I've been eating is raw dairy. It doesn't stuff me up or

give me mucous like pasterized dairy did. I never liked milk until I drank real

milk. I can drink almost a gallon myself a week.

I may be going overboard because it's a such a new-found wonderful food!

pax,

Danae

" Mother's milk and mother's arms have always been available, patiently

waiting for the passing of man's foolhardy arrogance, which tried to convince us

that his inventions were superior to nature. "

Tine Thevenin

Baby boys are the only group in society having medically unnecessary

surgery without their consent.

[Guest guest]

Is it possible you're allergic to something you've recently introduced in

larger amounts than normal?

-Lana

On 6/12/06, danaecooks@... <danaecooks@...> wrote:

>

> I usually get maybe 3 colds a year but have gotten two in the pst two

> months

> since going NT: no white flour, no white sugar, fernented grains, raw

> dairy,

> et al.

>

> Anyone know if this is a case of my body adjusting or something? Any

> similar

> experiences. Or is it just cold season?

> Generally, I've been feeling wonderful. So much better since changing my

> eating habits.

>

> pax,

> Danae

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/13/2006 6:43:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

haecklers@... writes:

Milk does have lots of antibodies, do you think it's fighting off

some lingering infections you didn't know you had?

Possible. I had a really bad infection before I had a recent root canal (yes,

I know how bad they can be for you). I thought it was a recurring sinus

infection. I was on antibiotics for 3 weeks with it. I think it really screwed

some

things up.

It was only after starting NT that I felt any improvement and stopped using

any kind of pain reliever (was on vicodin, now I don't need anything). The

difference was and is amazing. I know it can take months for the last of

infections to get out of ones system. I'm just going to keep doing what I've

been doing.

pax,

Danae

" Mother's milk and mother's arms have always been available, patiently

waiting for the passing of man's foolhardy arrogance, which tried to convince us

that his inventions were superior to nature. "

Tine Thevenin

Baby boys are the only group in society having medically unnecessary

surgery without their consent.

[Guest guest]

Milk does have lots of antibodies, do you think it's fighting off

some lingering infections you didn't know you had? Maybe it's not

colds. With lyme, sometimes as a part of the recovery the immune

system will finally notice a pathogen that's been there a long time

and start reacting to it, resulting in flu-like symptoms, but it's a

sign of healing.

Those trendy health magazines at the checkout last year were going

on and on about how many women have sinus infections and don't

realize it.

Also, doesn't the immune system sometimes just wall off some

infections that it can't deal with, like it does with TB? Just

wondering.

>

> The only new thing I've been eating is raw dairy. It doesn't stuff

me up or

> give me mucous like pasterized dairy did. I never liked milk until

I drank real

> milk. I can drink almost a gallon myself a week.

>

> I may be going overboard because it's a such a new-found wonderful

food!

>

> pax,

> Danae

>

> " Mother's milk and mother's arms have always been available,

patiently

> waiting for the passing of man's foolhardy arrogance, which tried

to convince us

> that his inventions were superior to nature. "

> Tine Thevenin

> Baby boys are the only group in society having medically

unnecessary

> surgery without their consent.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

>>The only new thing I've been eating is raw dairy.

>>

>

>

Dairy may be what is doing it regardless. It can be for some people.

Even raw goat's milk was a problem for my children. The summer that

they drank goat's milk kefir daily, they went from one cold to another.

It's been a couple of years now since they've gone casein free again and

they only had two colds each during the nine months of winter we had.

Just a data point....

--s

[Guest guest]

try switching to raw goat dairy instead of cow. works for me.

>

> I usually get maybe 3 colds a year but have gotten two in the pst

two months

> since going NT: no white flour, no white sugar, fernented grains,

raw dairy,

> et al.

>

> Anyone know if this is a case of my body adjusting or something?

Any similar

> experiences. Or is it just cold season?

> Generally, I've been feeling wonderful. So much better since

changing my

> eating habits.

>

> pax,

> Danae

>

> " Mother's milk and mother's arms have always been available,

patiently

> waiting for the passing of man's foolhardy arrogance, which tried

to convince us

> that his inventions were superior to nature. "

> Tine Thevenin

> Baby boys are the only group in society having medically

unnecessary

> surgery without their consent.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Dairy may be what is doing it regardless. It can be for some people.

> Even raw goat's milk was a problem for my children. The summer that

> they drank goat's milk kefir daily, they went from one cold to another.

> It's been a couple of years now since they've gone casein free again and

> they only had two colds each during the nine months of winter we had.

>

> Just a data point....

>

> --s

>

I agree. When I reintroduced dairy I quickly learned that homoginized dairy

made me pretty ill - so I bought unhomoginized, low temp pasteurized milk

for a few months until that started to bother me. Then I tried raw milk and

that too began to bother me after a while. I kept raw cheese in my diet for

a month or so after that but then I got rid of casein alltogether and my

immune system has been much better. Now its been a few weeks with it out of

my diet completely and I am starting to react to it like I did to the gluten

after being GF for a few weeks.

The two most common arguments against milk are:

a) Once weaned, humans are the only mammal to continue drinking dairy

Other species' milk really isn't designed for human consumption

That said, learning how to eat NT is far easier *with* the dairy in your

diet. I kinda knew that I was casein intolerant (my mother has always had

issues with milk and cheese), but I purposefully kept dairy in my diet for

months because I was underweight and undernourished when I started NT. The

colds and mucus were worth it to get up to a decent weight/functionality -

now, they're not. (Although I have lost some weight since going CF - even

though I've added in lots of lard and oils, it seems nothing puts on weight

quite like heavy cream.)

-Lana

[Guest guest]

My problems with raw milk went full blown about this time of year, after about a

year of none to escalating problems. One week I'd be ok, next week no so, next

week worse. Could be allergens and not colds. Cows go out to pasture, depending

where you are, when and eat pollen in cycles. Milk is raw, no processing to

reduce or kill. Northeast has had higher than usual environmental allergens

this spring. Never thought I had any environmental allergies other than dust and

mold except then.You don't seem to have other symptoms I had on top of your's

that would point to casein protein intolerance. What you describe is the others.

Wanita

Lana Gibbons <lana.m.gibbons@...> wrote:

>

> Dairy may be what is doing it regardless. It can be for some people.

> Even raw goat's milk was a problem for my children. The summer that

> they drank goat's milk kefir daily, they went from one cold to another.

> It's been a couple of years now since they've gone casein free again and

> they only had two colds each during the nine months of winter we had.

>

> Just a data point....

>

> --s

>

I agree. When I reintroduced dairy I quickly learned that homoginized dairy

made me pretty ill - so I bought unhomoginized, low temp pasteurized milk

for a few months until that started to bother me. Then I tried raw milk and

that too began to bother me after a while. I kept raw cheese in my diet for

a month or so after that but then I got rid of casein alltogether and my

immune system has been much better. Now its been a few weeks with it out of

my diet completely and I am starting to react to it like I did to the gluten

after being GF for a few weeks.

The two most common arguments against milk are:

a) Once weaned, humans are the only mammal to continue drinking dairy

Other species' milk really isn't designed for human consumption

That said, learning how to eat NT is far easier *with* the dairy in your

diet. I kinda knew that I was casein intolerant (my mother has always had

issues with milk and cheese), but I purposefully kept dairy in my diet for

months because I was underweight and undernourished when I started NT. The

colds and mucus were worth it to get up to a decent weight/functionality -

now, they're not. (Although I have lost some weight since going CF - even

though I've added in lots of lard and oils, it seems nothing puts on weight

quite like heavy cream.)

-Lana

[Guest guest]

That's funny..I don't usually get colds at all, but I got one this year. I think

there must have been a new strain going around. ct

two colds since starting NT

I usually get maybe 3 colds a year but have gotten two in the pst two months

since going NT: no white flour, no white sugar, fernented grains, raw dairy,

et al.

Anyone know if this is a case of my body adjusting or something? Any similar

experiences. Or is it just cold season?

Generally, I've been feeling wonderful. So much better since changing my

eating habits.

pax,

Danae

" Mother's milk and mother's arms have always been available, patiently

waiting for the passing of man's foolhardy arrogance, which tried to convince

us

that his inventions were superior to nature. "

Tine Thevenin

Baby boys are the only group in society having medically unnecessary

surgery without their consent.

[Guest guest]

On 6/13/06, Lana Gibbons <lana.m.gibbons@...> wrote:

> The two most common arguments against milk are:

> a) Once weaned, humans are the only mammal to continue drinking dairy

> Other species' milk really isn't designed for human consumption

Neither of them are valid, because some people, and whole populations

of people do *great* on *tons* of milk, and are in much better health

than any American on a gluten-free casein-free diet. So, clearly many

people have problems with even raw pastured dairy, but it definitely

*isn't* because milk per se is unfit for human consumption.

Chris

--

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[Guest guest]

Lana,

My concern about this is that it could be a food sensitivity from

leaky gut. There is some evidence that when people with leaky gut

start going on aviodance diets, they just keep developing

intolerances to whatever food they eat most often, so if you cut out

dairy, then you'll discover you're reacting to eggs, cut those out,

and find you're reacting to gluten. Pretty soon there's not much

left to eat. WAP has some pretty good info on how to heal the gut,

then 3 - 6 months later you can try reintroducing the foods and may

find they no longer cause problems.

>

> I agree. When I reintroduced dairy I quickly learned that

homoginized dairy

> made me pretty ill - so I bought unhomoginized, low temp

pasteurized milk

> for a few months until that started to bother me. Then I tried

raw milk and

> that too began to bother me after a while. I kept raw cheese in

my diet for

> a month or so after that but then I got rid of casein alltogether

and my

> immune system has been much better. Now its been a few weeks with

it out of

> my diet completely and I am starting to react to it like I did to

the gluten

> after being GF for a few weeks.

>

> The two most common arguments against milk are:

> a) Once weaned, humans are the only mammal to continue drinking

dairy

> Other species' milk really isn't designed for human consumption

>

> That said, learning how to eat NT is far easier *with* the dairy

in your

> diet. I kinda knew that I was casein intolerant (my mother has

always had

> issues with milk and cheese), but I purposefully kept dairy in my

diet for

> months because I was underweight and undernourished when I started

NT. The

> colds and mucus were worth it to get up to a decent

weight/functionality -

> now, they're not. (Although I have lost some weight since going

CF - even

> though I've added in lots of lard and oils, it seems nothing puts

on weight

> quite like heavy cream.)

>

> -Lana

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, thanks for all the info and insight. After feeling it out, I don't

think my colds have to do with my NT eating. At our Waldorf school group

yesterday

I found out that all the kids and families have been passing around sniffles

and snorts. It seems to be going around here. And being around children more

the last couple years (son will be three soon), it would make sense that I

would get sick more the older he gets and the more things we do, more kids we

are

around, etc.

I don't think I have a raw dairy sensitivity as I feel so great on it and I

can really feel now when a food strikes me " weird " . Someone mentioned about

allergies and pollens coming through the milk, etc. Very interesting. I do get

allergies from pollen a bit so that could definitely be afffecting me somehow(I

eat local, raw honey to help with common allergies).

Thanks again!

pax,

danae

" Mother's milk and mother's arms have always been available, patiently

waiting for the passing of man's foolhardy arrogance, which tried to convince us

that his inventions were superior to nature. "

Tine Thevenin

Baby boys are the only group in society having medically unnecessary

surgery without their consent.