Re: Coumadin / Blood thinners

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In a message dated 6/3/2003 2:06:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

angus.sue.pahaoa@... writes:

<< s afib was

worse on the 6 and 7th month,She was in afib 50% of the time on those

two months and by the 9th month shes been in mostly sinus.

ie if being dairy free makes your afib worse then this is a good

thing, it was the only clue I had to go on. >>

Angus,

You're exactly right. My sixth and seventh months after quitting dairy were

the worst months of my twenty year afib career. It was the first time I had

been in afib 50 percent of the time for two consecutive months. If I had given

up the experiment and resumed using dairy products at that time, I would

never have found out about the benefit of quitting dairy. I would say that

anyone

who decides to try the dairy experiment should commit to at least a year

because everyone is different, but in your case and mine, the common denominator

was that our afib worsened before it improved, even though we were on slightly

different timetables.

in sinus in Seattle

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-Hello Everyone:

Could you please refrain from describing Warfarin or Coumadin as rat

poison...it really gets me uptight.

It is sometimes more than I can bear(I almost never took any meds

during my life until July 02 since the diagnosis of afib) and it is

enough that I have to take a high dose of it-- and also have to read

that it is what it is.........

Thanks a million, you are the greatest.

Just remember that it is a med and it helps us...let us not denigrate

it.....let us not make each other uncomfortable about its other

uses....let us promote mental health and not the reverse. No matter

what let this be the best source of information on afib.

Isabelle

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In a message dated 6/3/2003 2:51:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

angus.sue.pahaoa@... writes:

<< The one time I did make it

to A & E the docs treated it like it was a one off and told me to not

to do it again like it was my fault, they didnt lissen to a word I

said.Its hard to write about without using swear words.Angus

>>

Angus,

I think that when afib appears in younger people, doctors tend to believe

that the person has drunk excessively or used illegal drugs which can

precipitate

afib. In the early days of my afib, my doctor asked me point blank if I had

" done something that I shouldn't have done. " She noted that my eyes were

quite red and assumed that this might be a symptom of drug use. In actuality

the

red eyes were a symptom of allergy to pollen. Because of my young age, she

couldn't believe that I was having spontaneous heart problems. At that time my

problem had not even been diagnosed, but I had simply complained to her about

tachycardia and weird sensations in my heart. After an EKG showed afib, she

became a believer, treating the whole thing more seriously. Of course, by

that time, she knew me better and realized that I had never drunk alcohol or

used

illegal drugs of any kind. Since drug use is a common cause of afib in

younger people, all young afibbers become suspect, I think.

in sinus in Seattle

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In a message dated 6/2/2003 3:02:30 PM Central Daylight Time,

fross@... writes:

> It is my understanding that there is one significent difference between rat

>

> poison and coumadin. Although rat poison is warfarin it also contains ground

>

> glass, to make sure that the rats bleed to death

That would make sense. I'll have to look at a package one of these days and

see if it lists the ingredients of rat poison.

guy

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In a message dated 6/3/2003 8:18:26 PM Central Daylight Time,

forestbedell@... writes:

> Just remember that it is a med and it helps us...let us not denigrate

> it.....let us not make each other uncomfortable about its other

> uses....let us promote mental health and not the reverse. No matter

> what let this be the best source of information on afib.

> Isabelle

Your absolutely right, but calling it r-- p----- brings attention that if you

over dose it could be very bad.

guy