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> I just bought some Wellshire Farms liverwurst because they had the

fewest

> ingredients and was wondering if the non-fat dry milk in it is too

much of a

> problem that we shouldn't eat it? It also lists " spices " but do you

think

> that automatically means MSG? Does anyone know of a brand of

liverwurst that

> is made with better ingredients? Also, am I getting the same benefit of

> liver from eating this as I would from just eating plain liver?

>

>

>

amanda,

Like any food, you'll do better to eat the unprocessed version--plain

liver in this case--than buying commercial liverwurst. But don't let

that get you down. The dry milk is bad news, but I've been known to

eat it when I wanted a bar of white chocolate. There's not much in

the liverwurst. Consider making your own liverwurst, it looks pretty

easy:

http://www.recipegoldmine.com/worldgerman/german17.html

I do draw the line at " spices " in an ingredient listing--here's what

the company has to say:

http://www.wellshirefarms.com/faq.php

" Is there MSG in any of the Wellshire Farms Products?

No, there is no MSG in any Wellshire Products. Some people argue that

the autolyzed yeast is some of our product is MSG. Autolyzed Yeast is

a naturally occurring MSG, not an added MSG. The USDA does not define

this as MSG. "

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If you crave processed meats sometimes, I highly recommend the

book " Characuterie " by Ruhlman and Polcyn. It tells

how to make your own bacon, ham, bologna, kielbasa, corned beef,

etc. I just leave out the " pink salt " and do it in the refrigerator

for less than a week so there's no risk of spoiling. Can't do hard

sausages that way, but that's not what I usually want anyways. Using

kimchi for the lactic acid culture works very well and the flavors

usually get through the meat in just a few days. I probably use more

kimchi for fermenting meat than I do to eat straight!

> >

> > I just bought some Wellshire Farms liverwurst because they had the

> fewest

> > ingredients and was wondering if the non-fat dry milk in it is too

> much of a

> > problem that we shouldn't eat it? It also lists " spices " but do

you

> think

> > that automatically means MSG? Does anyone know of a brand of

> liverwurst that

> > is made with better ingredients? Also, am I getting the same

benefit of

> > liver from eating this as I would from just eating plain liver?

> >

> >

> >

> amanda,

>

> Like any food, you'll do better to eat the unprocessed version--

plain

> liver in this case--than buying commercial liverwurst. But don't let

> that get you down. The dry milk is bad news, but I've been known to

> eat it when I wanted a bar of white chocolate. There's not much in

> the liverwurst. Consider making your own liverwurst, it looks

pretty

> easy:

>

> http://www.recipegoldmine.com/worldgerman/german17.html

>

> I do draw the line at " spices " in an ingredient listing--here's what

> the company has to say:

>

> http://www.wellshirefarms.com/faq.php

>

> " Is there MSG in any of the Wellshire Farms Products?

>

> No, there is no MSG in any Wellshire Products. Some people argue

that

> the autolyzed yeast is some of our product is MSG. Autolyzed Yeast

is

> a naturally occurring MSG, not an added MSG. The USDA does not

define

> this as MSG. "

>

> tb

>

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We can find braunschweiger without msg (ish) chemicals easier than

liverwurst. I've ordered some pork liver at the farmer's market (they

don't usually stock it) and was going to try making my own. If

liverwurst is easier, I'll make it. I doubt I'll have time to delve in

Larousse and find a recipe for you before my liver arrives, but I'll try.

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I usually put the meat in a glass dish, cover it with kimchi, with

more underneath or layered between depending on the meat.

We had sausage made from coarse ground pork last night, I added

fennel, sage, and black pepper when I cooked it and it was

sensational, just like store bought or better. Had stored it for two

days with the kimchi on top.

Kimchi actually has some nitrates in it, but no worry about toxicity

because the naturally occurring vitamin C prevents the nitrates from

breaking down. Nitrates aren't bad, it's when they break down that

you need to worry. It also has the bacteria that make the lactic

acid that gives the meat the nice sours flavor.

> > >

> > > I just bought some Wellshire Farms liverwurst because they had

the

> > fewest

> > > ingredients and was wondering if the non-fat dry milk in it is

too

> > much of a

> > > problem that we shouldn't eat it? It also lists " spices " but do

> you

> > think

> > > that automatically means MSG? Does anyone know of a brand of

> > liverwurst that

> > > is made with better ingredients? Also, am I getting the same

> benefit of

> > > liver from eating this as I would from just eating plain liver?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > amanda,

> >

> > Like any food, you'll do better to eat the unprocessed version--

> plain

> > liver in this case--than buying commercial liverwurst. But don't

let

> > that get you down. The dry milk is bad news, but I've been known

to

> > eat it when I wanted a bar of white chocolate. There's not much in

> > the liverwurst. Consider making your own liverwurst, it looks

> pretty

> > easy:

> >

> > http://www.recipego

> <http://www.recipegoldmine.com/worldgerman/german17.html>

> ldmine.com/worldgerman/german17.html

> >

> > I do draw the line at " spices " in an ingredient listing--here's

what

> > the company has to say:

> >

> > http://www.wellshir <http://www.wellshirefarms.com/faq.php>

> efarms.com/faq.php

> >

> > " Is there MSG in any of the Wellshire Farms Products?

> >

> > No, there is no MSG in any Wellshire Products. Some people argue

> that

> > the autolyzed yeast is some of our product is MSG. Autolyzed

Yeast

> is

> > a naturally occurring MSG, not an added MSG. The USDA does not

> define

> > this as MSG. "

> >

> > tb

> >

>

>

>

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Yes, sauerkraut can be used as well, as long as it is RAW (live). I

make my own kimchi and sauerkraut, using Sandor Katz's recipes

in " Wild Fermentation " . I like kimchi better because of the better

flavor, and because it only takes a week or less. Also with more

vegetables in it, there are more nutrients for the bacteria to draw

from, so better chances they will be able to maximize their

production of choline and the other goodies they add.

My last batch was my best by far - I threw in a bunch of sprouted

mung beans we hadn't been eating. It got really, really sour, which

is fantastic for the way I like to use it - as a topping on salad,

mashed potatoes and rice, and for fermenting meats. Katz says you

can add fruit, but when I tried that it got mushy. Ew.

You'll want fresh cabbage to make it if at all possible, for one

thing the store cabbages could have been stored for quite a while, so

may not have the nutrients like vitamin C any more, and also because

the fresh cabbage has living yeasts on the surface (whitish coating)

that will really get the fermentation going. The yeast is s.

boulardii, which is wonderful against intestinal infections, but

doesn't harm the good bacteria in there; also it's non-colonizing so

it is very far removed from candida, even fights it.

>

> Do you make your own kimchi or buy it at the store? If so, do you

make it

> similar to sauerkraut? If so, could sauerkraut be used as well?

It would

> seem you could.

>

> Allyn

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