Differing perspective on Omega6 vs. omega3 supplementation

[Guest guest]

Please check this out and give your perspective:

http://www.brianpeskin.com/efa-analysis.pdf

Regards

Sanjay

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--- Sanjay <sanjay5goel@...> wrote:

> Please check this out and give your perspective:

> http://www.brianpeskin.com/efa-analysis.pdf

Sanjay,

I like the WAPF recommendation:

" Omega-6 essential fatty acids should comprise from 5 to 10 percent of

daily calories while omega-3 EFA should be about 2 percent of calories. "

http://www.westonaprice.org/federalupdate/fed2004sp.html

I think everyone here agrees that we need to avoid damaged omega-6 and

omega-3 fats as much as possible. To me it makes more sense to get

the proper omega-6 and omega-3 from foods as much as possible, as did

our ancestors - rather than from taking supplements.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your inputs as well as the WAPF article. It definitely

helped me get a better understanding of these EFA's.

Thanks

Sanjay

> > Please check this out and give your perspective:

> > http://www.brianpeskin.com/efa-analysis.pdf

>

> Sanjay,

>

> I like the WAPF recommendation:

> " Omega-6 essential fatty acids should comprise from 5 to 10 percent of

> daily calories while omega-3 EFA should be about 2 percent of calories. "

> http://www.westonaprice.org/federalupdate/fed2004sp.html

>

> I think everyone here agrees that we need to avoid damaged omega-6 and

> omega-3 fats as much as possible. To me it makes more sense to get

> the proper omega-6 and omega-3 from foods as much as possible, as did

> our ancestors - rather than from taking supplements.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

don't forget about omega 7, it is at least as important to discuss if

not more important. very important fatty acids for membrane health.

dave

[Guest guest]

Can you give a web site to elaborate on this?

On Jan 2, 2007, at 7:11 AM, dcw338 wrote:

> don't forget about omega 7, it is at least as important to discuss if

> not more important. very important fatty acids for membrane health.

>

> dave

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[Guest guest]

After having the " omega-7, WTF's that? " reaction myself upon reading

this post yesterday, I did some digging. Apparently, CLA (from beef

and butterfat) can be considered an omega-7 fatty acid (particularly

rumenic and vaccenic acids). In addition, palmitoleic acid (from palm

oil and sea buckthorn oil) is also an omega-7 fatty acid. If you

search for omega-7, you wind up with a lot of dreck from shills

selling sea buckthorn oil, but there are a few references to CLA as well.

-Colin

>

> > don't forget about omega 7, it is at least as important to discuss if

> > not more important. very important fatty acids for membrane health.

> >

> > dave

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On 1/3/07, williamcolinwood <cwood@...> wrote:

> After having the " omega-7, WTF's that? " reaction myself upon reading

> this post yesterday, I did some digging. Apparently, CLA (from beef

> and butterfat) can be considered an omega-7 fatty acid (particularly

> rumenic and vaccenic acids). In addition, palmitoleic acid (from palm

> oil and sea buckthorn oil) is also an omega-7 fatty acid. If you

> search for omega-7, you wind up with a lot of dreck from shills

> selling sea buckthorn oil, but there are a few references to CLA as well.

I doubt that CLA is essential (in that I'm sure we'd survive quite

fine without it), but it certainly seems to have beneficial effects,

particularly anti-carcinogenic effects, when consumed with saturated

fat. Palmitoleic acid, on the other hand, is not essential because we

make it. Macadamia nuts have a lot of it (23%) and most animal fats

have 2 to 4%, with chicken scoring 6 to 8%, according to Enig's book.

Chris

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[Guest guest]

,

> I like the WAPF recommendation:

> " Omega-6 essential fatty acids should comprise from 5 to 10 percent of

> daily calories while omega-3 EFA should be about 2 percent of calories. "

> http://www.westonaprice.org/federalupdate/fed2004sp.html

I thought this seemed awfully high the first time I read it, as I

could have sworn the Foundation was playing with the 5% for total PUFA

figure the other times I'd seen a number come up. Now that I followed

the link, I see that this is the recommendation of a government

committee and Bill Sanda was describing Enig's comments during

the public comment period.

Official recommendations have capped PUFA at 10% for a long time. I

think 12% of calories from PUFA is way too much.

Chris

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[Guest guest]

Thanks very much.

On Jan 3, 2007, at 3:08 PM, williamcolinwood wrote:

> After having the " omega-7, WTF's that? " reaction myself upon reading

> this post yesterday, I did some digging. Apparently, CLA (from beef

> and butterfat) can be considered an omega-7 fatty acid (particularly

> rumenic and vaccenic acids). In addition, palmitoleic acid (from palm

> oil and sea buckthorn oil) is also an omega-7 fatty acid. If you

> search for omega-7, you wind up with a lot of dreck from shills

> selling sea buckthorn oil, but there are a few references to CLA as

> well.

>

> -Colin

>

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--- wrote:

> > I like the WAPF recommendation:

> > " Omega-6 essential fatty acids should comprise from 5 to 10

> > percent of daily calories while omega-3 EFA should be about 2

> > percent of calories. "

> > http://www.westonaprice.org/federalupdate/fed2004sp.html

>

--- Masterjohn <chrismasterjohn@...> wrote:

> I thought this seemed awfully high the first time I read it, as I

> could have sworn the Foundation was playing with the 5% for total

> PUFA figure the other times I'd seen a number come up. Now that I

> followed the link, I see that this is the recommendation of a

> government committee and Bill Sanda was describing Enig's

> comments during the public comment period.

>

> Official recommendations have capped PUFA at 10% for a long time. I

> think 12% of calories from PUFA is way too much.

You're right. After I made the post, I went back and found that the

article was not what I thought it was and that the recommendation was

from the " federally-mandated Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee " .

I gotta be more careful with that search tool on WAPF!

Here's the reference that I had intended:

" Comments on the Food Guidance System/Food Guide Pyramid "

http://www.westonaprice.org/federalupdate/testimony/commentsFoodPyramid_26AUG04.\

pdf

" Modern diets can contain as much as 30% of calories as

polyunsaturated oils, but scientific research indicates that this

amount is far too high. The best evidence indicates that our intake of

polyunsaturates should not be much greater than 4% of the caloric

total, in approximate proportions of 1 1/2 % omega-3 linolenic acid

and 2 1/2 % omega-6 linoleic acid. "

I didn't think anyone would notice

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