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Hi Sim,

Welcome to the Thyroid Learning group <grin>

Well, it's what I call it, I have learned so much from this group

and as a result have learned to research my autoimmune disease. And

its possible treatments.

Now, a TSH of 4.24 is not within the new testing norm's, 3.0 is now

considered the top end of the range.

And the rest of the test results are at the low end of the lab

ranges...I'm not even sure if these are the new/current lab

ranges...sigh...

It sounds that you are definitely having Hypothryoid problems... In

My Humble Opinion.

Now, with having so much stress on your body over the last few

years, I would suggest some method of support for your adrenals, I

bet they are just about worn out, what with trying to help you carry

those babies (my condolences on your loses).

If you decide to wait until you see the Doctor in December this is

where I would start, with support for the Adrenals.

In the file section Topper() and have a write up on

Thyroid 101 that I highly recommend you read, to start with. Then

read everything else you can find in there.

I would also recommend that you go to Shomon's web site and

explore her site as well...ton's of information:

thyroid.about.com

For me, I waited far to long to start my search for better health, I

listened to Doctor's who lacked knowledge of this Disease and its

treatment. I wish I had heard about Armour (and generic Armour) and

its wonderfull abilities to help us regain a part of our lives.

Gossimer

>

> Hello Everyone;

>

> My name is Simonetta, and I'm from Long Island , New York. For

> years, I have had problems with my thyroid, but doctors refused to

> dx me properly.

>

> On both sides of my family there are thyroid problems. Both my

> grandmother and mother are on synthroid. My dad had an operation

on

> his thyroid when I was a kid. When I was in my early twenties, I

was

> in a car accident and suffered very bad whiplash . A few months

> later, I suffered froma very high fever, and my throat almost

> completely closed. It took me at least a month to recover, and I

> went down to 98 pounds, and remained there for a few years. I had

to

> leave my teaching career because of extreme vertigo, panic

attacks,

> and heat intolerance. However, not one doctor dxed me witha

thyroid

> problem.

>

> Fast foward a couple of years. I get married, and afew years

> later, become pregnant. I suffered thruout the whole pregnancy

with

> hyperemesis and a disorder known as pitilism (related to the

> pituitary gland) for the entire 8 months I was pregnant (yes, my

son

> was a month early). Three more pregnancies, all resulting in

> miscarriage. Every ob/gyn sent me to a endo because they all

> said " thyroid " every ob/gyn noted my growing goiter. No longer 98

> lbs., weight at this point has been a constant battle. Constant

> dieting (I go between high proteinlow carb, to weight watchers to

> try and break plateaus), and excercise has slowly brought me down

to

> between a size 4-6.

>

> Anyway, every endo I went to said, " blood tests normal " (a test

> dating back to 1995 had my freet4 @ 1.9; but low total t3, no tsh).

>

> Finally, my last pregnancy (this time last year) my ob/gyn

slated

> me as high rsik , and sent me to a chief of staff endo at a

college

> hospital. I miscarried before my appointment , even though my

ob/gyn

> put an urgent request, the app't was still too far off. (I

> miscarried at 3 months). At the time of my pregnancy, my tsh was

> 2.25, but I was told that my miscarriage was unrelated to thyroid,

> because it fell within normal limits. Autopsy on the baby came

back

> as that my baby ( a girl) was genetically normal.

>

> The ob/gyn had detected a lump in my thyroid. The notable endo

> told me a lot, but listened very little . I went for an FNA, and

> results came back suspicious. I then opted to have a partial

> thyroidectomy. My tsh dropped to 1.7 after surgery. A few months

> later, the endo saw me, and informed me that he expected my

> bloodwork to be fine and normal. My weight was fine, and any

slowing

> down of anything was probably due to getting older. I just nodded,

> because I learned that no one listens anyway.

>

> Well, my bloodwork came back w/a t-4 of 6 (normal range 4.5-

> 12.0). T-3 uptake: 29.4 (normal range24.-40); tsh :4.24 , and a

free

> thyroxineindex 1.8 ( normal range:1.6-3.7). My doctor and his

rather

> inept student doctor put me on 25 mcg of synthroid. I'll explain

why

> I think the latter was inept in a second...

>

> The first week on synthroid , I felt pretty good. Then I

started

> feeling almost as if I was in a free fall. I began to alternately

> feel hyperthyroid one day, hypothyroid the next. Frightened, I

> called my endo who apparently didn't want to deal with me, so I

> received a phone call from the inept student. This is why I feel

she

> is inept: her response to me was to take it or leave it (the

> treatment). I was shocked! I asked her if she really felt that

> stopping meds when I went from a 1.7 tsh to a 4.24 in afew months,

> wouln't the chance of me getting much more hypo exist? She then

told

> me that " I wasn't hypo, I was within the normal limits; but they

> prescribed synthroid to stop any more growths and because I was in

> the high normal range "

>

> Instead of arguing with her (after all, what I wanted was some

> reassurance or info , and I could see that she wasn't qualified);

I

> simply dismissed her w/ " ok, thank you for calling back " and

promtly

> made another app't with a doctor that I found in the top docs

> website for thyroid. Unfortunately, I have to wait until mid

> december, because he is in high demand.

>

> {{sigh}}. Sorry for the book. I just know that there is so much

> networked wealth of info on this site; so I figured that it

couln't

> hurt to tell the whole deal. Anyone else experience anything like

> this? BTW, I always tested negative for autoimmune thyroiditis;

> although when I left teaching, a neurologist thought I had chronic

> fatigue/ epstein barr.

>

> Thanks for listening

>

> Sim

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> > Hello Everyone;

> >

> > My name is Simonetta, and I'm from Long Island , New York.

For

> > years, I have had problems with my thyroid, but doctors refused

to

> > dx me properly.

> >

> > On both sides of my family there are thyroid problems. Both

my

> > grandmother and mother are on synthroid. My dad had an operation

> on

> > his thyroid when I was a kid. When I was in my early twenties, I

> was

> > in a car accident and suffered very bad whiplash . A few months

> > later, I suffered froma very high fever, and my throat almost

> > completely closed. It took me at least a month to recover, and I

> > went down to 98 pounds, and remained there for a few years. I

had

> to

> > leave my teaching career because of extreme vertigo, panic

> attacks,

> > and heat intolerance. However, not one doctor dxed me witha

> thyroid

> > problem.

> >

> > Fast foward a couple of years. I get married, and afew years

> > later, become pregnant. I suffered thruout the whole pregnancy

> with

> > hyperemesis and a disorder known as pitilism (related to the

> > pituitary gland) for the entire 8 months I was pregnant (yes, my

> son

> > was a month early). Three more pregnancies, all resulting in

> > miscarriage. Every ob/gyn sent me to a endo because they all

> > said " thyroid " every ob/gyn noted my growing goiter. No longer

98

> > lbs., weight at this point has been a constant battle. Constant

> > dieting (I go between high proteinlow carb, to weight watchers

to

> > try and break plateaus), and excercise has slowly brought me

down

> to

> > between a size 4-6.

> >

> > Anyway, every endo I went to said, " blood tests normal " (a

test

> > dating back to 1995 had my freet4 @ 1.9; but low total t3, no

tsh).

> >

> > Finally, my last pregnancy (this time last year) my ob/gyn

> slated

> > me as high rsik , and sent me to a chief of staff endo at a

> college

> > hospital. I miscarried before my appointment , even though my

> ob/gyn

> > put an urgent request, the app't was still too far off. (I

> > miscarried at 3 months). At the time of my pregnancy, my tsh was

> > 2.25, but I was told that my miscarriage was unrelated to

thyroid,

> > because it fell within normal limits. Autopsy on the baby came

> back

> > as that my baby ( a girl) was genetically normal.

> >

> > The ob/gyn had detected a lump in my thyroid. The notable

endo

> > told me a lot, but listened very little . I went for an FNA, and

> > results came back suspicious. I then opted to have a partial

> > thyroidectomy. My tsh dropped to 1.7 after surgery. A few months

> > later, the endo saw me, and informed me that he expected my

> > bloodwork to be fine and normal. My weight was fine, and any

> slowing

> > down of anything was probably due to getting older. I just

nodded,

> > because I learned that no one listens anyway.

> >

> > Well, my bloodwork came back w/a t-4 of 6 (normal range 4.5-

> > 12.0). T-3 uptake: 29.4 (normal range24.-40); tsh :4.24 , and a

> free

> > thyroxineindex 1.8 ( normal range:1.6-3.7). My doctor and his

> rather

> > inept student doctor put me on 25 mcg of synthroid. I'll explain

> why

> > I think the latter was inept in a second...

> >

> > The first week on synthroid , I felt pretty good. Then I

> started

> > feeling almost as if I was in a free fall. I began to

alternately

> > feel hyperthyroid one day, hypothyroid the next. Frightened, I

> > called my endo who apparently didn't want to deal with me, so I

> > received a phone call from the inept student. This is why I feel

> she

> > is inept: her response to me was to take it or leave it (the

> > treatment). I was shocked! I asked her if she really felt that

> > stopping meds when I went from a 1.7 tsh to a 4.24 in afew

months,

> > wouln't the chance of me getting much more hypo exist? She then

> told

> > me that " I wasn't hypo, I was within the normal limits; but they

> > prescribed synthroid to stop any more growths and because I was

in

> > the high normal range "

> >

> > Instead of arguing with her (after all, what I wanted was

some

> > reassurance or info , and I could see that she wasn't

qualified);

> I

> > simply dismissed her w/ " ok, thank you for calling back " and

> promtly

> > made another app't with a doctor that I found in the top docs

> > website for thyroid. Unfortunately, I have to wait until mid

> > december, because he is in high demand.

> >

> > {{sigh}}. Sorry for the book. I just know that there is so

much

> > networked wealth of info on this site; so I figured that it

> couln't

> > hurt to tell the whole deal. Anyone else experience anything

like

> > this? BTW, I always tested negative for autoimmune thyroiditis;

> > although when I left teaching, a neurologist thought I had

chronic

> > fatigue/ epstein barr.

> >

> > Thanks for listening

> >

> > Sim

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You might try taking the antibodies testing again, at intervals because I

still suspect Hashimoto's Disease. It took me yrs to get a diagnosis, and I

never knew my antibodies because noone ever tested them til I tested them

myself this past March. They were in the thousands for both of them,

antithyroidperoxidase and the antithyroglobulin ones, but they may not have

been that high before sometime in the yr before that, who knows. I suspect

that they were there, but noone ever tested them but myself. Hashi's has

these ups and downs, and many people have both Grave's Disease AND Hashi's

together, which means they've probably got at least 3 thyroid antibodies,

the TSI and the two mentioned above, or at least one of the two mentioned

above. Armour Thyroid is a better product for almost anyone with thyroid

disease, I can guarantee it. I took synthetic T4 for yrs before making this

switch on my own, and I now order my own lab testing and my own thyroid. I

see where New York government is trying to make this illegal, the rats.

We've got to get on the stick for stopping this move.

Hi, I'm new

>

>

> Hello Everyone;

>

> My name is Simonetta, and I'm from Long Island , New York. For

> years, I have had problems with my thyroid, but doctors refused to

> dx me properly.

>

> On both sides of my family there are thyroid problems. Both my

> grandmother and mother are on synthroid. My dad had an operation on

> his thyroid when I was a kid. When I was in my early twenties, I was

> in a car accident and suffered very bad whiplash . A few months

> later, I suffered froma very high fever, and my throat almost

> completely closed. It took me at least a month to recover, and I

> went down to 98 pounds, and remained there for a few years. I had to

> leave my teaching career because of extreme vertigo, panic attacks,

> and heat intolerance. However, not one doctor dxed me witha thyroid

> problem.

>

> Fast foward a couple of years. I get married, and afew years

> later, become pregnant. I suffered thruout the whole pregnancy with

> hyperemesis and a disorder known as pitilism (related to the

> pituitary gland) for the entire 8 months I was pregnant (yes, my son

> was a month early). Three more pregnancies, all resulting in

> miscarriage. Every ob/gyn sent me to a endo because they all

> said " thyroid " every ob/gyn noted my growing goiter. No longer 98

> lbs., weight at this point has been a constant battle. Constant

> dieting (I go between high proteinlow carb, to weight watchers to

> try and break plateaus), and excercise has slowly brought me down to

> between a size 4-6.

>

> Anyway, every endo I went to said, " blood tests normal " (a test

> dating back to 1995 had my freet4 @ 1.9; but low total t3, no tsh).

>

> Finally, my last pregnancy (this time last year) my ob/gyn slated

> me as high rsik , and sent me to a chief of staff endo at a college

> hospital. I miscarried before my appointment , even though my ob/gyn

> put an urgent request, the app't was still too far off. (I

> miscarried at 3 months). At the time of my pregnancy, my tsh was

> 2.25, but I was told that my miscarriage was unrelated to thyroid,

> because it fell within normal limits. Autopsy on the baby came back

> as that my baby ( a girl) was genetically normal.

>

> The ob/gyn had detected a lump in my thyroid. The notable endo

> told me a lot, but listened very little . I went for an FNA, and

> results came back suspicious. I then opted to have a partial

> thyroidectomy. My tsh dropped to 1.7 after surgery. A few months

> later, the endo saw me, and informed me that he expected my

> bloodwork to be fine and normal. My weight was fine, and any slowing

> down of anything was probably due to getting older. I just nodded,

> because I learned that no one listens anyway.

>

> Well, my bloodwork came back w/a t-4 of 6 (normal range 4.5-

> 12.0). T-3 uptake: 29.4 (normal range24.-40); tsh :4.24 , and a free

> thyroxineindex 1.8 ( normal range:1.6-3.7). My doctor and his rather

> inept student doctor put me on 25 mcg of synthroid. I'll explain why

> I think the latter was inept in a second...

>

> The first week on synthroid , I felt pretty good. Then I started

> feeling almost as if I was in a free fall. I began to alternately

> feel hyperthyroid one day, hypothyroid the next. Frightened, I

> called my endo who apparently didn't want to deal with me, so I

> received a phone call from the inept student. This is why I feel she

> is inept: her response to me was to take it or leave it (the

> treatment). I was shocked! I asked her if she really felt that

> stopping meds when I went from a 1.7 tsh to a 4.24 in afew months,

> wouln't the chance of me getting much more hypo exist? She then told

> me that " I wasn't hypo, I was within the normal limits; but they

> prescribed synthroid to stop any more growths and because I was in

> the high normal range "

>

> Instead of arguing with her (after all, what I wanted was some

> reassurance or info , and I could see that she wasn't qualified); I

> simply dismissed her w/ " ok, thank you for calling back " and promtly

> made another app't with a doctor that I found in the top docs

> website for thyroid. Unfortunately, I have to wait until mid

> december, because he is in high demand.

>

> {{sigh}}. Sorry for the book. I just know that there is so much

> networked wealth of info on this site; so I figured that it couln't

> hurt to tell the whole deal. Anyone else experience anything like

> this? BTW, I always tested negative for autoimmune thyroiditis;

> although when I left teaching, a neurologist thought I had chronic

> fatigue/ epstein barr.

>

> Thanks for listening

>

> Sim

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HiPeg,

Now that will be cold driving...

I'm not sure, however I seem to remember seeing cigarette(sp?)

lighter heaters for trucks and cars...I think I saw them at

AutoStores...for like around $20-40 bucks...

Gossimer

> My stressor right now is that my heat doesn't work in my car. The

> switch plate in the car broke. It alone costs $460 (it's digital),

not

> including labor ... we don't have the money!! So, it's going to be

a

> cold winter in my car!!!!!!!

>

> hugs, peg

> " Life is like a beautiful melody, only the lyrics are messed up. "

~

> Anonymous

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