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Welcome!!!

I used to get early morning highs. I was then advised to increase my long

acting insulin, glargine, at night, by a couple of units and test again each

morning. I did this and after a few weeks of pricking my fingers far too much

in my opinion, I hit on a good level. I ended up upping my glargine at night

by 6 units. In UK we say levels normal between 4and 8. Multiply that by 18

for US euivalent. I wake up with gluc at about 7. Speak to doctor about long

acting night dose insulin.

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malia2470 wrote:

> hi,

> i'm new to the group and have just been reading everyone's post.

> i've been a type 2 diabetic for 6 years now.

>

> i know diabetes affects people differently and i'm still trying

> to understand mine and get control of it. i test regularly (3-4 times

> a day) and my bg #s in the morning are high (ranging from 150-190)

> but throughout the day they range from 120-160. i saw my doctor on

> monday and asked why my pre-breakfast numbers are high and he

> couldn't figure it out. he told me to test early in the morning

> (around 3 am) then test again when before eating breakfast. so, for

> the past couple of early mornings i tested myself at 4 am and my

> numbers were around 150. three hours later before i ate breakfast,

> my numbers went up to around 170. i'm so not understanding what's

> going on.

>

Sounds like Dawn Effect. Might try a small carb thing at bed time -- a

handfull of dry cereal or a banana. That has helped with my morning

reading.

Take care,

Blain

> anyway, i wanted to share and would enjoy hearing people's opinions.

>

> thanks,

> marie

>

>

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Hi Sandy,

Nice to have you here with us, you are not alone now and there are

others that have said about similar things that you are having. You

are with friends and there will soon be someone to answer all of

your questions and we all know that " sick of being sick and tired "

and also about the family not understanding. I got my hubby to read

some of these letters and he changed instantly and said that if I

don't get good results from our doc then to get a new one. So I can

say that reading the letters and seeing that what I was saying, was

being said by others made the difference. Just relax now and try to

have a good day.

Dawn

>

> hello everyone,

> I am new to this group and new to being hypo. I was

diagnosed

> in July of this year. I've had one problem after another. I've

been

> through ovarian cysts, kidney stones, nerve damage and problems

with

> my bladder. I've had panic attacks, heart flutter and chest

pains. I

> was hospitalized in Oct. because of pain and numbness on my left

> side. I am afraid I may have MS. I've read that the two are

> confused with symptoms, but I haven't met anyone hypo with the

> symptoms I'm having. It started out with numbness and tingling in

my

> left arm and leg. Then it moved into pain that I'd say was about

a 5

> followed with shooting pains that was about a 8 or 9. While I was

in

> the hospital they were unable to find anything but started me on

> neurontin which helps with the pain. I've been checked for nerve

> damage and my nurologist only found a damaged nerve in my leg. He

> ordered a MRI and it came back fine. He said he coudn't find out

why

> I was hurting in my arm. Also the MRI showed ovarian cysts and

that

> my bladder is significantly distended. So it's back to my

urologist

> and obgyn. I'm back where I started. I don't know what to do or

> where to go anymore. I'm switching endo's and it'll be mid Jan.

> before I see him. I'm on 75 mcg of synthroid and think I need to

be

> regulated. I'm only 30 and feel like I'm falling apart. I've

always

> been fairly healthy and rarely ever got sick. The only thing I've

> ever been through was problems during pregnancy and throat cancer

> 13yrs ago. I want my life back and want to get better. But it's

> just been one doctor appt after another with no answers. Any

ideas

> what to try next? Has anyone else had pain and numbness on one

> side? Sorry for my ramblin on. It's great to be with this

group.

> I've been reading the post and learning so much. It helps to know

> I " m not the only one going through all this. : ) Friends and

family

> don't understand. They are tired of me being sick. And I don't

> blame them, so am I. LOL

>

> Sandy

>

> sick and tired of being sick and tired.

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Welcome, Sandy!

What were you dxed with? Hashimoto's? The autoimmune diseases are all so

debilitating and once you have one, it is more likely to get

more.Hashimoto's and MS are both auto-immuune diseases.It is very common in

thyroid disease to have the type of symptoms you described. Thyroid disease

can affect every cell, every system in your body.You said you had throat

cancer?What treatment did you receive?Were lymph nodes involved, tonsils,

thyroid?

Sorry for bombarding you with questions....That is my Proud group co-owner's

(Topper//ThyroGeek)forte.

I am the more quiet one

Feisty(ThyroFeisty)Proud Group Co-owner

You may also do better on Armour or the natural thyroid generics.Usually

Endos are not the best doctors to treat thyroid disease......But keep on

asking questions, and rant, rave, exult--- This is a SUPPORT Group.....

Feisty again

new to the group

>

>

> hello everyone,

> I am new to this group and new to being hypo. I was diagnosed

> in July of this year. I've had one problem after another. I've been

> through ovarian cysts, kidney stones, nerve damage and problems with

> my bladder. I've had panic attacks, heart flutter and chest pains. I

> was hospitalized in Oct. because of pain and numbness on my left

> side. I am afraid I may have MS. I've read that the two are

> confused with symptoms, but I haven't met anyone hypo with the

> symptoms I'm having. It started out with numbness and tingling in my

> left arm and leg. Then it moved into pain that I'd say was about a 5

> followed with shooting pains that was about a 8 or 9. While I was in

> the hospital they were unable to find anything but started me on

> neurontin which helps with the pain. I've been checked for nerve

> damage and my nurologist only found a damaged nerve in my leg. He

> ordered a MRI and it came back fine. He said he coudn't find out why

> I was hurting in my arm. Also the MRI showed ovarian cysts and that

> my bladder is significantly distended. So it's back to my urologist

> and obgyn. I'm back where I started. I don't know what to do or

> where to go anymore. I'm switching endo's and it'll be mid Jan.

> before I see him. I'm on 75 mcg of synthroid and think I need to be

> regulated. I'm only 30 and feel like I'm falling apart. I've always

> been fairly healthy and rarely ever got sick. The only thing I've

> ever been through was problems during pregnancy and throat cancer

> 13yrs ago. I want my life back and want to get better. But it's

> just been one doctor appt after another with no answers. Any ideas

> what to try next? Has anyone else had pain and numbness on one

> side? Sorry for my ramblin on. It's great to be with this group.

> I've been reading the post and learning so much. It helps to know

> I " m not the only one going through all this. : ) Friends and family

> don't understand. They are tired of me being sick. And I don't

> blame them, so am I. LOL

>

> Sandy

>

> sick and tired of being sick and tired.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Sandy,

Welcome aboard! to where we learn more about ourselves and our

thyroids.

Now for some questions:

Be sure when they test your blood levels that they are testing for

the Free T3 as well as for the Free T4. Be sure that they test you

for Thyroid Antibodies. Have them test your Adrenals as well. (Many

of us have used the 24 hour siliva test with good success.)

If you know them, could you post your last labs results as well as

the lab ranges for the tests?

Do you know what your rising underarm basal temperature is?

How much WATER are you drinking? Be sure that you are drinking at

least 64 ounces, more if you can handle it. (This does not include

coffee or tea or soda. These contain water, however, the water has

stuff added to it that does not seem to allow it to carry the toxins

out of the body in the urine.)(I was asked once how does one know if

you are drinking enough water. My answer was, If you can see yellow

in the toilet after you have voided or if you can smell your urine

than you are not drinking enough water. This lack of color does not

apply if you are taking a B complex vitamin as the B vits tend to

turn urine a bright florescent yellow.)

In addition to your taking Synthroid, are you taking any other meds?

Pain meds like aspirin or Advil or anti-depressants or weight lose

meds or ? Any vitamins? Any minerals? Any supplements? Any

Iron/Ferritan supplements? Any Folic Acid supplements? Adrenal

support? Cortisol pills? (such as Cortislim)

Do you eat three squares a day? More? Less? Many of us have found

that if we eat every 2 or 3 hours mini meals that our bodies do

better and have a constant source of energy.

Do you eat meat protein or by any chance are you a Vegan? As Thyroid

patients our bodies need quality Protein sources much more than say

the average Joe on the street.

Might I suggest that you read the File section of this groups from

front to back.

Also, go to Shomon's web site and read this site from front to

back as well:

thyroid.about.com

is a Thyroid Patient Advocate and has researched and learned a

ton of valid stuff that has helped a great many of us.

Other sites:

http://www.drrind.com/tempgraph.asp

www.drlowe.com

www.mercola.com

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/ray-peat.htm

This is a start.

We are here to help each other grasp what is happening in our bodies.

Ask questions, someone on this list more than likely will have lived

through it and will add their two bits to the knowledge that you are

building.

Gossimer

>

> hello everyone,

> I am new to this group and new to being hypo. I was

diagnosed

> in July of this year. I've had one problem after another. I've

been

> through ovarian cysts, kidney stones, nerve damage and problems

with

> my bladder. I've had panic attacks, heart flutter and chest

pains. I

> was hospitalized in Oct. because of pain and numbness on my left

> side. I am afraid I may have MS. I've read that the two are

> confused with symptoms, but I haven't met anyone hypo with the

> symptoms I'm having. It started out with numbness and tingling in

my

> left arm and leg. Then it moved into pain that I'd say was about

a 5

> followed with shooting pains that was about a 8 or 9. While I was

in

> the hospital they were unable to find anything but started me on

> neurontin which helps with the pain. I've been checked for nerve

> damage and my nurologist only found a damaged nerve in my leg. He

> ordered a MRI and it came back fine. He said he coudn't find out

why

> I was hurting in my arm. Also the MRI showed ovarian cysts and

that

> my bladder is significantly distended. So it's back to my

urologist

> and obgyn. I'm back where I started. I don't know what to do or

> where to go anymore. I'm switching endo's and it'll be mid Jan.

> before I see him. I'm on 75 mcg of synthroid and think I need to

be

> regulated. I'm only 30 and feel like I'm falling apart. I've

always

> been fairly healthy and rarely ever got sick. The only thing I've

> ever been through was problems during pregnancy and throat cancer

> 13yrs ago. I want my life back and want to get better. But it's

> just been one doctor appt after another with no answers. Any

ideas

> what to try next? Has anyone else had pain and numbness on one

> side? Sorry for my ramblin on. It's great to be with this

group.

> I've been reading the post and learning so much. It helps to know

> I " m not the only one going through all this. : ) Friends and

family

> don't understand. They are tired of me being sick. And I don't

> blame them, so am I. LOL

>

> Sandy

>

> sick and tired of being sick and tired.

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Yes, I've experienced the tingling in an arm, hand, and leg, with pains in

the upper arm at times. Heart testing always showed nothing, but I've never

had an MRI either. We have all seen people with more symptoms than you

could shake a stick at, go away with proper thyroid hormone treatment, many

of which I've never experienced myself. I don't like synthetic T4. I feel

as though MOSt people, by the time they have been chronically hypo for a

long time, have developed thyroid hormone cellular resistance, and the

natural thyroid is better for this.

> sick and tired of being sick and tired.

Know whatcha mean here.

new to the group

>

>

> hello everyone,

> I am new to this group and new to being hypo. I was diagnosed

> in July of this year. I've had one problem after another. I've been

> through ovarian cysts, kidney stones, nerve damage and problems with

> my bladder. I've had panic attacks, heart flutter and chest pains. I

> was hospitalized in Oct. because of pain and numbness on my left

> side. I am afraid I may have MS. I've read that the two are

> confused with symptoms, but I haven't met anyone hypo with the

> symptoms I'm having. It started out with numbness and tingling in my

> left arm and leg. Then it moved into pain that I'd say was about a 5

> followed with shooting pains that was about a 8 or 9. While I was in

> the hospital they were unable to find anything but started me on

> neurontin which helps with the pain. I've been checked for nerve

> damage and my nurologist only found a damaged nerve in my leg. He

> ordered a MRI and it came back fine. He said he coudn't find out why

> I was hurting in my arm. Also the MRI showed ovarian cysts and that

> my bladder is significantly distended. So it's back to my urologist

> and obgyn. I'm back where I started. I don't know what to do or

> where to go anymore. I'm switching endo's and it'll be mid Jan.

> before I see him. I'm on 75 mcg of synthroid and think I need to be

> regulated. I'm only 30 and feel like I'm falling apart. I've always

> been fairly healthy and rarely ever got sick. The only thing I've

> ever been through was problems during pregnancy and throat cancer

> 13yrs ago. I want my life back and want to get better. But it's

> just been one doctor appt after another with no answers. Any ideas

> what to try next? Has anyone else had pain and numbness on one

> side? Sorry for my ramblin on. It's great to be with this group.

> I've been reading the post and learning so much. It helps to know

> I " m not the only one going through all this. : ) Friends and family

> don't understand. They are tired of me being sick. And I don't

> blame them, so am I. LOL

>

> Sandy

>

> sick and tired of being sick and tired.

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Sandy... welcome to the group... sorry for being so late in responding..... it's been a rough few weeks for me....

I'm wondering.. first... what were your last labs... someone may have already asked that....

..... I'm also curious if you do any artificial foods? margarine, aspartame (nutri-sweet), splenda, do you do a lot of soda's - diet or regular? How about soy products?

I'm trying to see if anything comes together to give us a clue as to what is going on....

75 mcg is a pretty low dose... part of this may still involve insufficient levels of thyroid... and it may be, too.. that you are one that doesn't respond well to synthetic thyroid.... that is why seeing your labs is important.

Have you put on a lot of weight since this has started, and if so, where on your body, or all over?

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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:22:37 -0000 jasmin373@... writes:

hello everyone, I am new to this group and new to being hypo. I was diagnosed in July of this year. I've had one problem after another. I've been through ovarian cysts, kidney stones, nerve damage and problems with my bladder. I've had panic attacks, heart flutter and chest pains. I was hospitalized in Oct. because of pain and numbness on my left side. I am afraid I may have MS. I've read that the two are confused with symptoms, but I haven't met anyone hypo with the symptoms I'm having. It started out with numbness and tingling in my left arm and leg. Then it moved into pain that I'd say was about a 5 followed with shooting pains that was about a 8 or 9. While I was in the hospital they were unable to find anything but started me on neurontin which helps with the pain. I've been checked for nerve damage and my nurologist only found a damaged nerve in my leg. He ordered a MRI and it came back fine. He said he coudn't find out why I was hurting in my arm. Also the MRI showed ovarian cysts and that my bladder is significantly distended. So it's back to my urologist and obgyn. I'm back where I started. I don't know what to do or where to go anymore. I'm switching endo's and it'll be mid Jan. before I see him. I'm on 75 mcg of synthroid and think I need to be regulated. I'm only 30 and feel like I'm falling apart. I've always been fairly healthy and rarely ever got sick. The only thing I've ever been through was problems during pregnancy and throat cancer 13yrs ago. I want my life back and want to get better. But it's just been one doctor appt after another with no answers. Any ideas what to try next? Has anyone else had pain and numbness on one side? Sorry for my ramblin on. It's great to be with this group. I've been reading the post and learning so much. It helps to know I"m not the only one going through all this. : ) Friends and family don't understand. They are tired of me being sick. And I don't blame them, so am I. LOLSandysick and tired of being sick and tired.

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Sandy...

Hypothyroidism, by itself, is not a true diagnosis.... what you need to find out is the reason why you are hypo.. Most likely it's damage from the radiation that you received for the cancer, radiation in the form of Radioactive Iodine (RAI) is what is used to destroy thyroid glands, btw.

The most important thing for you to do is to get the correct tests done to see just what your body is doing....

When you have a bit of time to do some reading, we have a page set up on our website that runs through the thyroid hormones, the tests and the types of medication.... it will give you some of the basics so that what we're talking about here will be easier to understand...

www.thyrophoenix.com/thyroid_101.htm

Remember, the only way to learn is to ask... so never be afraid of asking a question... you'll not only be asking for yourself but for all the others that are too shy to post..... and for those that are still dealing with brain fog and would benefit from the refresher....

It takes some time to find a good doc... most aren't very well trained in thyroid diagnosis and care... even endo's... so it may take some hunting on your part... the more that you learn about all of this will put you in a better position to understand what the doc is talking about, what things to ask him/her and whether or not they are doing a good job.

It all seems confusing at first.... but after a while it starts making more and more sense and things fall into place... just hang in there... we're all here to help... you're not alone it this anymore....

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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:28:08 -0800 (PST) Jasmin e writes:

Hello ,

I haven't been diagnosed with anything except hypothyroidism. I really don't know much except that I"m hypo. I'm just learning about what test to get and how to read them. I've made an appt. for this week to have some more tests done. I had throat cancer on my right vocal cord when I was 17 and they did radiation treatment. I think that's why my thyroid went out. I also worry because the radiation puts me at a higher risk for thyroid cancer. You say endo's aren't the best to treat thyroid, what kinda doctor should I look for? My general practicioner didn't seem to know much.

It's great to meet everyone and thankyou for the warm welcome.

Sandy

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Hi Beth.  I think it is great you are aware of your mom's diagnosis already. 

You will benefit from knowing she is the one with the problem.  I took advantage

of the free counseling in college, and it was very beneficial.  Just make sure

you go to someone who truly understands BPD.  Randi Kreger's books, website have

good information on this.  Also, reading this board helps us realize we are not

alone or crazy.  Good luck, Missy

Subject: New to the Group

To: WTOAdultChildren1

Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 8:07 PM

Here's My Story in as few words as possible: My dad married my mom

over 20 years ago thinking she was perfect and wonderful, not too long

after their marriage they needed to seek counseling b/c of the

stresses in their lives, come to find out my mom had BPD. I didn't

really understand this until about 4 years ago when I entered high

school, and since then I've been researching a lot about it. My dad

and 2 older brothers wont' really talk to me about it, and I wish I

had someone to talk to about it. My friends can't believe, nor do they

understand, what I'm going through with my mom. She has refused to

accept that she has BPD. I dont' know when they stop trying

counseling, but I know they went to several counselors n they would

diagnose her with it, so she would leave and find another one, and

then they wouldn't diagnose her with it(I heard it was a hard one to

diagnose b/c many don't come across it in their practice ever). It's

very stressful, and until recently I've dealt with it, but I can't

anymore alone, so I've been trying to find a support group to talk to

when the going gets tough. I would really like to find a face-to-face

counselor to talk to or a support group to talk to face-to-face, but

so far I have been unsuccesful. I'll be attending my freshman yr of

college in the fall, an dI heard they offer free counseling, so I may

look into that as an option just when things start getting tough.

Thank you so much,

Beth

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She has refused to

accept that she has BPD

>>>>>>>>>>>>

That is the classic red flag and a total lack of empathy for the damage done as

a result of their actions.

Good luck and welcome

New to the Group

Here's My Story in as few words as possible: My dad married my mom

over 20 years ago thinking she was perfect and wonderful, not too long

after their marriage they needed to seek counseling b/c of the

stresses in their lives, come to find out my mom had BPD. I didn't

really understand this until about 4 years ago when I entered high

school, and since then I've been researching a lot about it. My dad

and 2 older brothers wont' really talk to me about it, and I wish I

had someone to talk to about it. My friends can't believe, nor do they

understand, what I'm going through with my mom. She has refused to

accept that she has BPD. I dont' know when they stop trying

counseling, but I know they went to several counselors n they would

diagnose her with it, so she would leave and find another one, and

then they wouldn't diagnose her with it(I heard it was a hard one to

diagnose b/c many don't come across it in their practice ever). It's

very stressful, and until recently I've dealt with it, but I can't

anymore alone, so I've been trying to find a support group to talk to

when the going gets tough. I would really like to find a face-to-face

counselor to talk to or a support group to talk to face-to-face, but

so far I have been unsuccesful. I'll be attending my freshman yr of

college in the fall, an dI heard they offer free counseling, so I may

look into that as an option just when things start getting tough.

Thank you so much,

Beth

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