Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 lichtmanad wrote: >The book " Eat Fat Lose Fat " by Sally Fallon and Enig has some >discussion on hypothyroidism. The claim is that coconut oil, and cod >liver oil are beneficial for thyroid production. Does anyone have >experience, either positive or negative, with this approach to >improving hypothyroidism? I would greatly appreciate it. > >Any other comments or suggestions on this topic are welcome. > > > > I'm drinking 1/4 cup of coconut oil a day in the wistful hope that they know what they're talking about. I think it probably takes a loooong time to turn around thyroid issues. A friend of mine was able to do it dietarily, but it took her three years to do so. It's early days for me. I'm also taking amino acids that feed the thyroid and squeezing kelp, nori, and such in at every opportunity. We'll see..... --s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Hi Suanne: What aminos are you taking? I presume Tyrosine... On 5/2/06, Suzanne Noakes <snoakes@...> wrote: > > > > lichtmanad wrote: > > >The book " Eat Fat Lose Fat " by Sally Fallon and Enig has some > >discussion on hypothyroidism. The claim is that coconut oil, and cod > >liver oil are beneficial for thyroid production. Does anyone have > >experience, either positive or negative, with this approach to > >improving hypothyroidism? I would greatly appreciate it. > > > >Any other comments or suggestions on this topic are welcome. > > > > > > > > > I'm drinking 1/4 cup of coconut oil a day in the wistful hope that they > know what they're talking about. I think it probably takes a loooong > time to turn around thyroid issues. A friend of mine was able to do it > dietarily, but it took her three years to do so. It's early days for > me. I'm also taking amino acids that feed the thyroid and squeezing > kelp, nori, and such in at every opportunity. > > We'll see..... > > --s > > > <HTML><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " " > http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " ><BODY><FONT > FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > > <B>IMPORTANT ADDRESSES</B> > <UL> > <LI><B><A HREF= " / " >NATIVE > NUTRITION</A></B> online</LI> > <LI><B><A HREF= " http://onibasu.com/ " >SEARCH</A></B> the entire message > archive with Onibasu</LI> > </UL></FONT> > <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " ><B><A HREF= " mailto: > -owner " >LIST OWNER:</A></B> Idol > <B>MODERATOR:</B> Wanita Sears > </FONT></PRE> > </BODY> > </HTML> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 S. Pritchard wrote: >Hi Suanne: > >What aminos are you taking? I presume Tyrosine... > > .....and taurine, phenylalanine, and just to see what it will do, lysine. My understanding from what I've read is that these are all precursors for thyroid, only at different places in the conversion process, so it's possible that there's a bunch of redundancy in taking all of these. Not seeing stellar improvements, but I am sleeping better and I'm not as crouchy....both of these symptoms deteriorate when I stop taking the taurine and phenylalanine. Now if my hair would just stop falling out and frying off...... --s, off to swig more coconut oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 >-----Original Message----- >From: >[mailto: ]On Behalf Of Suzanne Noakes > > > > S. Pritchard wrote: > >>Hi Suanne: >> >>What aminos are you taking? I presume Tyrosine... >> >> >....and taurine, phenylalanine, and just to see what it will do, >lysine. My understanding from what I've read is that these are all >precursors for thyroid, Don't forget iodine, which is required to make thyroid hormones. Suze Fisher Web Design and Development http://www.allurecreative.com Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- “The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Suze Fisher wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: >>[mailto: ]On Behalf Of Suzanne Noakes >> >> > > > >> >> S. Pritchard wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi Suanne: >>> >>>What aminos are you taking? I presume Tyrosine... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>....and taurine, phenylalanine, and just to see what it will do, >>lysine. My understanding from what I've read is that these are all >>precursors for thyroid, >> >> > >Don't forget iodine, which is required to make thyroid hormones. > > > Oh, you mean that brown patch painted on my stomach? Never let it be said that I'm not a list groupie. <BEG> Yeah, I forgot to mention throwing kombu into every hot liquid thing that is going to pass someone's lips......soups, stews, gravies.....sometimes I have to catch myself from trying to slip some in with the coffee beans as I grind them..... --s, only half joking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 --- In , Suzanne Noakes <snoakes@...> wrote: > > > > > > > I'm drinking 1/4 cup of coconut oil a day in the wistful hope that they > know what they're talking about. I think it probably takes a loooong > time to turn around thyroid issues. A friend of mine was able to do it > dietarily, but it took her three years to do so. It's early days for > me. I'm also taking amino acids that feed the thyroid and squeezing > kelp, nori, and such in at every opportunity. > > We'll see..... > > --s > Thanks S. I figured that improving a condition that could take years to develop would take years to reverse. Your signs of improvement are encouraging. Hang in there! What type of dietary approach did your friend use? Alan land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 lichtmanad wrote: >Thanks S. I figured that improving a condition that could take years >to develop would take years to reverse. > <nodding> That's usually the score. > Your signs of improvement >are encouraging. Hang in there! > > > Yep! >What type of dietary approach did your friend use? > > > > She's big on the D'Adamo blood type diet. I've kicked it around in my mind for a few years, but I never can quite make the leap. Probably because it would require pulling even more foods off of an already spartan menu and that I can't do. The nutritionist told me not to pull anything now that doesn't cause diarrhea and I'm sticking with that. My friend, however, has improved her asthma symptoms along with her thyroid stuff. It's pretty impressive. --s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 > > Thanks S. I figured that improving a condition that could take years > to develop would take years to reverse. Your signs of improvement > are encouraging. Hang in there! I don't necesarily believe this is true. I think once you set your intention for what needs to be healed in the body, healing could happen rapidly. Of course it depends on the person. People say the written word is powerful, like writing down my thyroid will be 60 percent healed in 3 mos. or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Hello. You don't need anywhere that much coco oil, especially if you complement with other T4-T3 friendly conversion factors. You will need tyrosine, B6, Mg, I2, selenium, and E. For most humans, the deficiency in the Selenium and iodine (the coco oil) are the main culprits - tho many other nutrients are also very commonly in deficit - especially the tyrosine. Have you had labs done? If the thyroid problem is SECONDARY to the pituitary (which itself may be secondary to the hypothalmus), then treating the thyroid is like 'painting over rust'. You MAY!! get a temp change, but it won't last. Guarandamnteed. Get the correct!! labs, if yo have not. feel free to respond if need that info. SCott > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm drinking 1/4 cup of coconut oil a day in the wistful hope that > they > > know what they're talking about. I think it probably takes a > loooong > > time to turn around thyroid issues. A friend of mine was able to > do it > > dietarily, but it took her three years to do so. It's early days > for > > me. I'm also taking amino acids that feed the thyroid and > squeezing > > kelp, nori, and such in at every opportunity. > > > > We'll see..... > > > > --s > > > > Thanks S. I figured that improving a condition that could take years > to develop would take years to reverse. Your signs of improvement > are encouraging. Hang in there! > > What type of dietary approach did your friend use? > > Alan > land > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 docscotte wrote: >Hello. You don't need anywhere that much coco oil, especially if >you complement with other T4-T3 friendly conversion factors. > Well, it certainly won't hurt my dry skin and dry hair, eh? >You >will need tyrosine, B6, Mg, I2, selenium, and E. For most humans, >the deficiency in the Selenium and iodine (the coco oil) are the >main culprits - tho many other nutrients are also very commonly in >deficit - especially the tyrosine. > > Doin' all that. >Have you had labs done? If the thyroid problem is SECONDARY to the >pituitary (which itself may be secondary to the hypothalmus), then >treating the thyroid is like 'painting over rust'. You MAY!! get a >temp change, but it won't last. Guarandamnteed. Get the correct!! >labs, if yo have not. feel free to respond if need that info. >SCott > > > Yep. I had labs done three times now over the last eight years. I test as being normal for pituitary (despite having luteal phase defect), adrenals (despite crashing fatigue before starting supplements), and thyroid (despite having many hypothyroid symptoms, like a regular basal temperature of 94.0). All of the endos pat me on the head and send me on my way. So I'm working on treating the symptoms instead of the lab results. --s, who has taken to wallowing in coconut oil slicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 I LOve using the oil for hair annointing! Best massage oil in teh known universe - well, one of them anyway! Gotta wonder if the labs were correct. I know ZERO medics who do the correcty labs, before I teach my pat's what to demand from their MDs. Most of the time, I end up redoing all the labs as the medics are so unbelievably ignorant and usually arrogant. scott > > >Hello. You don't need anywhere that much coco oil, especially if > >you complement with other T4-T3 friendly conversion factors. > > > Well, it certainly won't hurt my dry skin and dry hair, eh? > > >You > >will need tyrosine, B6, Mg, I2, selenium, and E. For most humans, > >the deficiency in the Selenium and iodine (the coco oil) are the > >main culprits - tho many other nutrients are also very commonly in > >deficit - especially the tyrosine. > > > > > Doin' all that. > > >Have you had labs done? If the thyroid problem is SECONDARY to the > >pituitary (which itself may be secondary to the hypothalmus), then > >treating the thyroid is like 'painting over rust'. You MAY!! get a > >temp change, but it won't last. Guarandamnteed. Get the correct!! > >labs, if yo have not. feel free to respond if need that info. > >SCott > > > > > > > Yep. I had labs done three times now over the last eight years. I test > as being normal for pituitary (despite having luteal phase defect), > adrenals (despite crashing fatigue before starting supplements), and > thyroid (despite having many hypothyroid symptoms, like a regular basal > temperature of 94.0). All of the endos pat me on the head and send me > on my way. So I'm working on treating the symptoms instead of the lab > results. > > --s, who has taken to wallowing in coconut oil slicks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 I'm interested in exactly what you are doing because I always fear loosing health care benefits and would like to see if I can beat hypothyroidism with nutrition instead of meds which are hugely expensive if you don't have benefits. On May 2, 2006, at 1:07 PM, Suzanne Noakes wrote: > > > lichtmanad wrote: > >> The book " Eat Fat Lose Fat " by Sally Fallon and Enig has some >> discussion on hypothyroidism. The claim is that coconut oil, and cod >> liver oil are beneficial for thyroid production. Does anyone have >> experience, either positive or negative, with this approach to >> improving hypothyroidism? I would greatly appreciate it. >> >> Any other comments or suggestions on this topic are welcome. >> >> >> >> > I'm drinking 1/4 cup of coconut oil a day in the wistful hope that they > know what they're talking about. I think it probably takes a > loooong > time to turn around thyroid issues. A friend of mine was able to do it > dietarily, but it took her three years to do so. It's early days for > me. I'm also taking amino acids that feed the thyroid and squeezing > kelp, nori, and such in at every opportunity. > > We'll see..... > > --s > > > <HTML><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " > " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " ><BODY><FONT > FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > > <B>IMPORTANT ADDRESSES</B> > <UL> > <LI><B><A > HREF= " / " >NATIVE > NUTRITION</A></B> online</LI> > <LI><B><A HREF= " http://onibasu.com/ " >SEARCH</A></B> the entire > message archive with Onibasu</LI> > </UL></FONT> > <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " ><B><A > HREF= " mailto: -owner " >LIST > OWNER:</A></B> Idol > <B>MODERATOR:</B> Wanita Sears > </FONT></PRE> > </BODY> > </HTML> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 THyroid pretty simple to bring up to speed, actually. scott > > > >> The book " Eat Fat Lose Fat " by Sally Fallon and Enig has some > >> discussion on hypothyroidism. The claim is that coconut oil, and cod > >> liver oil are beneficial for thyroid production. Does anyone have > >> experience, either positive or negative, with this approach to > >> improving hypothyroidism? I would greatly appreciate it. > >> > >> Any other comments or suggestions on this topic are welcome. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > I'm drinking 1/4 cup of coconut oil a day in the wistful hope that they > > know what they're talking about. I think it probably takes a > > loooong > > time to turn around thyroid issues. A friend of mine was able to do it > > dietarily, but it took her three years to do so. It's early days for > > me. I'm also taking amino acids that feed the thyroid and squeezing > > kelp, nori, and such in at every opportunity. > > > > We'll see..... > > > > --s > > > > > > <HTML><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " > > " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1- transitional.dtd " ><BODY><FONT > > FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > > > <B>IMPORTANT ADDRESSES</B> > > <UL> > > <LI><B><A > > HREF= " native- nutrition/ " >NATIVE > > NUTRITION</A></B> online</LI> > > <LI><B><A HREF= " http://onibasu.com/ " >SEARCH</A></B> the entire > > message archive with Onibasu</LI> > > </UL></FONT> > > <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " ><B><A > > HREF= " mailto: -owner " >LIST > > OWNER:</A></B> Idol > > <B>MODERATOR:</B> Wanita Sears > > </FONT></PRE> > > </BODY> > > </HTML> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 I'm taking coconut oil too in hopes of helping thyroid, but Sally and didn't say take heaps of it or you will be fat. They just said it is of help. If I take it in hot tea, I become very very anxious. On May 2, 2006, at 3:47 PM, Suzanne Noakes wrote: > --s, off to swig more coconut oil Parashis artpages@... zine: artpagesonline.com portfolio: http://www.artpagesonline.com/EPportfolio/000portfolio.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 Parashis wrote: >I'm taking coconut oil too in hopes of helping thyroid, but Sally and > didn't say take heaps of it or you will be fat. They just said it >is of help. If I take it in hot tea, I become very very anxious. > > > > > Well, I have *plenty* of room to spare wrt weight..... Interesting about it causing anxiety. --s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 > > >I'm taking coconut oil too in hopes of helping thyroid, but Sally and > > didn't say take heaps of it or you will be fat. They just said it > >is of help. If I take it in hot tea, I become very very anxious. > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I have *plenty* of room to spare wrt weight..... > > Interesting about it causing anxiety. > > --s > Is it the tea that is causing the anxiety? And I can't imagine swiggin coconut oil - that would be like swigging butter - but I do use it to cook with and I occasionally have a spoonful. Or is that what you mean? Thyroids also do not do well with raw cabbage relatives - so no raw broccoli, cauliflower, etc. Or at least, in my case, very little - I also cook radishes in coconut oil! Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 Connie Hampton wrote: > >> >> >> >>>I'm taking coconut oil too in hopes of helping thyroid, but Sally >>> >>> >and > > >>> didn't say take heaps of it or you will be fat. They just >>> >>> >said it > > >>>is of help. If I take it in hot tea, I become very very anxious. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Well, I have *plenty* of room to spare wrt weight..... >> >>Interesting about it causing anxiety. >> >>--s >> >> >> > > >Is it the tea that is causing the anxiety? > > That's a good question. >And I can't imagine swiggin coconut oil - that would be like >swigging butter - but I do use it to cook with and I occasionally >have a spoonful. Or is that what you mean? > > > Oh, I take a tablespoon and slurp up 4 a day. More if I can remember to do it earlier in the day. >Thyroids also do not do well with raw cabbage relatives - so no raw >broccoli, cauliflower, etc. Or at least, in my case, very little - >I also cook radishes in coconut oil! > > > > No, I don't do any raw cruciferous stuff, except for kimchi.....I understand that goitrogenic foods, like cabbage, millet, and soy, are neutralized when fermented. --s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 How so? On May 5, 2006, at 6:58 PM, docscotte wrote: > THyroid pretty simple to bring up to speed, actually. > scott Parashis artpages@... zine: artpagesonline.com portfolio: http://www.artpagesonline.com/EPportfolio/000portfolio.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 , could you share more info on this? I have a hypoactive thyroid and I am not getting anywhere so far with the things I have tried. Thanks, Tana Re: Coconut and thyroid THyroid pretty simple to bring up to speed, actually. scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Maybe it was the tea since no one else seems to have experienced anxiety. Are radishes goitraginouse(sp)? On May 6, 2006, at 9:18 AM, Connie Hampton wrote: > Thyroids also do not do well with raw cabbage relatives - so no raw > broccoli, cauliflower, etc. Or at least, in my case, very little - > I also cook radishes in coconut oil! Parashis artpages@... zine: artpagesonline.com portfolio: http://www.artpagesonline.com/EPportfolio/000portfolio.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 I have not forgotten you. Been out of town a lot, and leaving agin right now. Promise to respond during weekend. scott > > , could you share more info on this? I have a hypoactive thyroid and I am not getting anywhere so far with the things I have tried. Thanks, > > Tana > Re: Coconut and thyroid > > > THyroid pretty simple to bring up to speed, actually. > scott > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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