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Gene,

I replied to the same one you've replied to, but mine didn't get

through 's problem. Now I'm glad because I like the way you

said it better.

The delay in getting your posts up isn't the moderator, is

having some problems, and actually for months has been dropping

posts that people have tried to send, as well as dropping a lot of

posts for those who chose to have posts emailed to them. Although

they are now saying it's a virus, that explains the almost blackout

a couple of days ago, this has been an ongoing problem, so if the

post was a lot of work to write, you may want to save a back-up copy

in case it doesn't get through.

I guess we should be grateful they provide this service for us for

free, and learn to live with it's quirks.

That said, they do work with the Chinese gov't to censor the emails

there, so who's to say sometimes the software doesn't make mistakes

and censor ours as well?

>

> First: I posted on this topic 2 days ago, and the post hasn't

appeared. From

> what I understand, my posts are moderated. May I request that if

this is a

> permanent condition, that my posts are processed in a more timely

manner?

> This has happened often, and I think that the delay is excessive.

If my post

> is deemed unfit for the sensitive readers here, I'd appreciate some

> notification to that effect.

>

> Second: this new law does NOT only apply to high school. The

person who

> posted to that affect did not read carefully. There is a

difference in the

> application of the law between high school and grade school, I

believe

> having to do with the sale of milk, but I forget exactly the

details, and

> don't care enough to research it right now.

>

> A 'scam' implies that someone is attempting to scam you. While

people may be

> misguided about the benefit of low fat diets, and I have no

respect for Bill

> Clinton (by no means to be read as support for the current war

criminal),

> I'm not sure how this such a bad thing. At least there is some

recognition

> that there should be some effort made to limit the unhealthy foods

that our

> schools sell to kids. Banning the sale of soda isn't a bad thing.

>

> There are (I can't believe I'm saying this) some political

realities here.

> How far, given the current brainwashing about the dangers of fat,

would a

> movement to, say, sell only whole milk to schools get? It wouldn't

get

> anywhere. 'Everyone' would ridicule it as being a disaster for the

obesity

> 'epidemic' (I'd prefer the 'war against fat'), and an

unhealthy 'heart

> choice'.

>

> This is a small step, but I can't see it as a bad one overall. I'd

like to

> see the sports drinks and diet sodas banned also, but that would

be a second

> step.

>

> > Renate,

> >

> > You're not in the U.S., right? " Follow the diet fads " is all I

can think of

> > with this. IIRC, Bill Clinton ate Atkins before his heart

surgery and does

> > South Beach now. Artificial sugars are ok on Atkins. South Beach

is low fat.

> >

> > No more whole milk. Low carb products means artificial sugared

only. May be

> > low carb, low fat but we all know that sucralose is catching up

with aspartame

> > quickly in regards to neurological effects. FWIW, low fat milk

has less

> > altered fat.

> >

> > Wanita

> >

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Well, in my case, there was the additional issue that I was on special

moderation status, because deemed my to be of unsavory character :)

> Gene,

>

> I replied to the same one you've replied to, but mine didn't get

> through 's problem. Now I'm glad because I like the way you

> said it better.

>

> The delay in getting your posts up isn't the moderator, is

> having some problems, and actually for months has been dropping

> posts that people have tried to send, as well as dropping a lot of

> posts for those who chose to have posts emailed to them. Although

> they are now saying it's a virus, that explains the almost blackout

> a couple of days ago, this has been an ongoing problem, so if the

> post was a lot of work to write, you may want to save a back-up copy

> in case it doesn't get through.

>

> I guess we should be grateful they provide this service for us for

> free, and learn to live with it's quirks.

>

> That said, they do work with the Chinese gov't to censor the emails

> there, so who's to say sometimes the software doesn't make mistakes

> and censor ours as well?

>

>

>>

>> First: I posted on this topic 2 days ago, and the post hasn't

> appeared. From

>> what I understand, my posts are moderated. May I request that if

> this is a

>> permanent condition, that my posts are processed in a more timely

> manner?

>> This has happened often, and I think that the delay is excessive.

> If my post

>> is deemed unfit for the sensitive readers here, I'd appreciate some

>> notification to that effect.

>>

>> Second: this new law does NOT only apply to high school. The

> person who

>> posted to that affect did not read carefully. There is a

> difference in the

>> application of the law between high school and grade school, I

> believe

>> having to do with the sale of milk, but I forget exactly the

> details, and

>> don't care enough to research it right now.

>>

>> A 'scam' implies that someone is attempting to scam you. While

> people may be

>> misguided about the benefit of low fat diets, and I have no

> respect for Bill

>> Clinton (by no means to be read as support for the current war

> criminal),

>> I'm not sure how this such a bad thing. At least there is some

> recognition

>> that there should be some effort made to limit the unhealthy foods

> that our

>> schools sell to kids. Banning the sale of soda isn't a bad thing.

>>

>> There are (I can't believe I'm saying this) some political

> realities here.

>> How far, given the current brainwashing about the dangers of fat,

> would a

>> movement to, say, sell only whole milk to schools get? It wouldn't

> get

>> anywhere. 'Everyone' would ridicule it as being a disaster for the

> obesity

>> 'epidemic' (I'd prefer the 'war against fat'), and an

> unhealthy 'heart

>> choice'.

>>

>> This is a small step, but I can't see it as a bad one overall. I'd

> like to

>> see the sports drinks and diet sodas banned also, but that would

> be a second

>> step.

>>

>>> Renate,

>>>

>>> You're not in the U.S., right? " Follow the diet fads " is all I

> can think of

>>> with this. IIRC, Bill Clinton ate Atkins before his heart

> surgery and does

>>> South Beach now. Artificial sugars are ok on Atkins. South Beach

> is low fat.

>>>

>>> No more whole milk. Low carb products means artificial sugared

> only. May be

>>> low carb, low fat but we all know that sucralose is catching up

> with aspartame

>>> quickly in regards to neurological effects. FWIW, low fat milk

> has less

>>> altered fat.

>>>

>>> Wanita

>>>

>

>

>

>

>

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--- In , Gene Schwartz <implode7@...>

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> Well, in my case, there was the additional issue that I was on special

> moderation status, because deemed my to be of unsavory character :)

Gene,

I don't recall your character being at issue. always treats you

with high regard imo.

B.

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Well, it is a fact that I was in a special moderation status.

I also doubt that held me in high regard. I would refer, for example, to

the fiasco with (hmmm - I think I'm repressing his name) X a few months ago,

where X posted here about his interaction with me and posted publicly in

sympathy before he even found out what happened. He then refused to provide even

a remotely satisfactory apology, and censored posts of mine in reply.

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>

> >

> > Well, in my case, there was the additional issue that I was on special

> > moderation status, because deemed my to be of unsavory character :)

> Gene,

> I don't recall your character being at issue. always treats you

> with high regard imo.

> B.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I'm asking for this discussion to stop here, in fairness.

Unsure if is monitoring this list at all over the last few months.

Message to Gene privately should clear up this past incident's hard feelings.

Gene is off of moderation.

Wanita

Well, it is a fact that I was in a special moderation status.

I also doubt that held me in high regard. I would refer, for example, to

the fiasco with (hmmm - I think I'm repressing his name) X a few months ago,

where X posted here about his interaction with me and posted publicly in

sympathy before he even found out what happened. He then refused to provide even

a remotely satisfactory apology, and censored posts of mine in reply.

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From: " downwardog7 "

>

> >

> > Well, in my case, there was the additional issue that I was on special

> > moderation status, because deemed my to be of unsavory character :)

> Gene,

> I don't recall your character being at issue. always treats you

> with high regard imo.

> B.

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