progesterone cream?

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cure for EVERYTHING and that makes me nervous.

> sincerely, edumom

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As a one time long time user of Progesterone cream, I can say that

it is not a cure for everything. It does improve thyroid function

and can make a person feel a lot better, but only if you need it. In

untreated hypothyroidism, estrogen goes very high and progeserone is

depleted.

Ray Peat has written about studies done that found mothers with high

progesterone levels give birth to children with higher intelegence.

This probably has to do with increases oxygen levels in the blood of

the mother and better thryoid function.

Progesterone also modulates blood sugar, but it does it at the

expense of making you a little more glucose intolerant.

There have been no studies to date that have found a risk from using

it. However there are some breast cancers that are progesterone

dependent for growth.

My experience with it was that it was very helpful for me when I

used it when I was subclinical undiagnosed hypothyroid. It really

helped my sleep and helped me to loose a little weight. I used 20mg

a day or less. Later I got a doctor who wanted me to increase my

dose to 100mg of cream. Progesterone can build up in the fat and go

way too high, especially at these doses. This will cause symptoms

and I believe that is what happened to me. I soon found I didn't

feel well, got nausea, depression, headache, and other symptoms.

Since that time (3 years ago) I have not been able to use even the

most tiny amount without developing mood and sleep problems and low

energy. I suspect it has to do with my low estrogen levels. Estrogen

and progesterone need to be in balance. As far as I can find out

from my research, very few people have problems with natural

progesterone and I cannot find but one or two mentions of side

effects. They usually occur at the high doses.

Anyway, I think it can be extreemly helpful for the person who needs

it. I think doses should be kept where Dr. Lee recommends, 20 mg a

day or less. These are very safe low doses where build up is not a

problem and it does not exceed what the body normally makes. I do

not think it should be used long term.

Tish

[Guest guest]

cure for EVERYTHING and that makes me nervous.

> sincerely, edumom

_______________

As a one time long time user of Progesterone cream, I can say that

it is not a cure for everything. It does improve thyroid function

and can make a person feel a lot better, but only if you need it. In

untreated hypothyroidism, estrogen goes very high and progeserone is

depleted.

Ray Peat has written about studies done that found mothers with high

progesterone levels give birth to children with higher intelegence.

This probably has to do with increases oxygen levels in the blood of

the mother and better thryoid function.

Progesterone also modulates blood sugar, but it does it at the

expense of making you a little more glucose intolerant.

There have been no studies to date that have found a risk from using

it. However there are some breast cancers that are progesterone

dependent for growth.

My experience with it was that it was very helpful for me when I

used it when I was subclinical undiagnosed hypothyroid. It really

helped my sleep and helped me to loose a little weight. I used 20mg

a day or less. Later I got a doctor who wanted me to increase my

dose to 100mg of cream. Progesterone can build up in the fat and go

way too high, especially at these doses. This will cause symptoms

and I believe that is what happened to me. I soon found I didn't

feel well, got nausea, depression, headache, and other symptoms.

Since that time (3 years ago) I have not been able to use even the

most tiny amount without developing mood and sleep problems and low

energy. I suspect it has to do with my low estrogen levels. Estrogen

and progesterone need to be in balance. As far as I can find out

from my research, very few people have problems with natural

progesterone and I cannot find but one or two mentions of side

effects. They usually occur at the high doses.

Anyway, I think it can be extreemly helpful for the person who needs

it. I think doses should be kept where Dr. Lee recommends, 20 mg a

day or less. These are very safe low doses where build up is not a

problem and it does not exceed what the body normally makes. I do

not think it should be used long term.

Tish

[Guest guest]

cure for EVERYTHING and that makes me nervous.

> sincerely, edumom

_______________

As a one time long time user of Progesterone cream, I can say that

it is not a cure for everything. It does improve thyroid function

and can make a person feel a lot better, but only if you need it. In

untreated hypothyroidism, estrogen goes very high and progeserone is

depleted.

Ray Peat has written about studies done that found mothers with high

progesterone levels give birth to children with higher intelegence.

This probably has to do with increases oxygen levels in the blood of

the mother and better thryoid function.

Progesterone also modulates blood sugar, but it does it at the

expense of making you a little more glucose intolerant.

There have been no studies to date that have found a risk from using

it. However there are some breast cancers that are progesterone

dependent for growth.

My experience with it was that it was very helpful for me when I

used it when I was subclinical undiagnosed hypothyroid. It really

helped my sleep and helped me to loose a little weight. I used 20mg

a day or less. Later I got a doctor who wanted me to increase my

dose to 100mg of cream. Progesterone can build up in the fat and go

way too high, especially at these doses. This will cause symptoms

and I believe that is what happened to me. I soon found I didn't

feel well, got nausea, depression, headache, and other symptoms.

Since that time (3 years ago) I have not been able to use even the

most tiny amount without developing mood and sleep problems and low

energy. I suspect it has to do with my low estrogen levels. Estrogen

and progesterone need to be in balance. As far as I can find out

from my research, very few people have problems with natural

progesterone and I cannot find but one or two mentions of side

effects. They usually occur at the high doses.

Anyway, I think it can be extreemly helpful for the person who needs

it. I think doses should be kept where Dr. Lee recommends, 20 mg a

day or less. These are very safe low doses where build up is not a

problem and it does not exceed what the body normally makes. I do

not think it should be used long term.

Tish

[Guest guest]

I use the progesterone cream with only partial success. I think it is b/c my thyroid is not at optimum dose and therefore, my adrenals are under a lot of stress. Others may feel otherwise. I know that after menopause that the adrenals produce alot (can't remember the percent now, but it may be over half) or the sex hormones. If you're like me and have had a hysterectomy, that's all you get. Even if they left your ovaries intact, two to three years afterward they are dead b/c the blood supply is cut off. Anyway, sex hormone production as far as adrenals are concerned is sort of on the bottom of the totem pole. So if your adrenals are stressed, on a percentage basis, not only are they putting out less cortisol, etc they are putting out even less, if any, of the sex horomones. So you can have that imbalance. I belong to a natural hormone replacement group and some of the women do the cream and everything is perfect. Others struggle with it. I wonder if they are like me, hypo first which leads to adrenal fatigue which perhaps leads to hormonal imbalance. So very many of the women in that group that prescribe their symptoms sound so hypo. I have posted links to this group there before and I think a few have come over.

Also if you think about it that is similar to what people say about us..... "They push armour as a cure for EVERYTHING and that makes me skeptical"

I think we need to look at the whole endocrine system, not just thyroid, not just adarenal, etc. Because stress on any one will lead to stress on the other. They are intertwined.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

-----Original Message-----From: edumom Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 8:32 AMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: progesterone cream?

Are these really helpful? They've been a craze among homeschoolers for a while now-you can't go to a convention w/o seeing a seminar or at least a booth all about progesterone, nor open a hsing mag w/o readind at least one ad. I've avoided it because they push it as the cure for EVERYTHING and that makes me nervous.

[Guest guest]

I use the progesterone cream with only partial success. I think it is b/c my thyroid is not at optimum dose and therefore, my adrenals are under a lot of stress. Others may feel otherwise. I know that after menopause that the adrenals produce alot (can't remember the percent now, but it may be over half) or the sex hormones. If you're like me and have had a hysterectomy, that's all you get. Even if they left your ovaries intact, two to three years afterward they are dead b/c the blood supply is cut off. Anyway, sex hormone production as far as adrenals are concerned is sort of on the bottom of the totem pole. So if your adrenals are stressed, on a percentage basis, not only are they putting out less cortisol, etc they are putting out even less, if any, of the sex horomones. So you can have that imbalance. I belong to a natural hormone replacement group and some of the women do the cream and everything is perfect. Others struggle with it. I wonder if they are like me, hypo first which leads to adrenal fatigue which perhaps leads to hormonal imbalance. So very many of the women in that group that prescribe their symptoms sound so hypo. I have posted links to this group there before and I think a few have come over.

Also if you think about it that is similar to what people say about us..... "They push armour as a cure for EVERYTHING and that makes me skeptical"

I think we need to look at the whole endocrine system, not just thyroid, not just adarenal, etc. Because stress on any one will lead to stress on the other. They are intertwined.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

-----Original Message-----From: edumom Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 8:32 AMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: progesterone cream?

Are these really helpful? They've been a craze among homeschoolers for a while now-you can't go to a convention w/o seeing a seminar or at least a booth all about progesterone, nor open a hsing mag w/o readind at least one ad. I've avoided it because they push it as the cure for EVERYTHING and that makes me nervous.