Re: Mild Depression, St. 's Wort

[Guest guest]

I was taking it for almost 2 weeks, and noticed no changes. I was warned

that it " doesn't work for everyone " , so I wasn't expecting a miracle.

Luckily a little talk therapy did the trick.

Side Note: I've recently read a lot about it being entirely ineffective for

major depression, and shouldn't be recommended at all until further

research. There’s also the danger of St. ’s wort reducing the

effectiveness of other meds. I guess a lot of people take it to avoid the

side effects that come with most anti-depressants, but it seems to have it's

own.

Re: Mild Depression

St 's Wort takes a week or so to be effective, as it's cumulative.

Barb

> I tried it and it didn't affect anything- Including my mood! HTH

[Guest guest]

I was taking it for almost 2 weeks, and noticed no changes. I was warned

that it " doesn't work for everyone " , so I wasn't expecting a miracle.

Luckily a little talk therapy did the trick.

Side Note: I've recently read a lot about it being entirely ineffective for

major depression, and shouldn't be recommended at all until further

research. There’s also the danger of St. ’s wort reducing the

effectiveness of other meds. I guess a lot of people take it to avoid the

side effects that come with most anti-depressants, but it seems to have it's

own.

Re: Mild Depression

St 's Wort takes a week or so to be effective, as it's cumulative.

Barb

> I tried it and it didn't affect anything- Including my mood! HTH

[Guest guest]

I was taking it for almost 2 weeks, and noticed no changes. I was warned

that it " doesn't work for everyone " , so I wasn't expecting a miracle.

Luckily a little talk therapy did the trick.

Side Note: I've recently read a lot about it being entirely ineffective for

major depression, and shouldn't be recommended at all until further

research. There’s also the danger of St. ’s wort reducing the

effectiveness of other meds. I guess a lot of people take it to avoid the

side effects that come with most anti-depressants, but it seems to have it's

own.

Re: Mild Depression

St 's Wort takes a week or so to be effective, as it's cumulative.

Barb

> I tried it and it didn't affect anything- Including my mood! HTH

[Guest guest]

said....

Side Note: I've recently read a lot about it being entirely ineffective for

major depression, and shouldn't be recommended at all until further

research. There's also the danger of St. 's wort reducing the

effectiveness of other meds. I guess a lot of people take it to avoid the

side effects that come with most anti-depressants, but it seems to have it's

own.

It's good to hear your talk therapy worked ;-)

Anyhow about side effects. The one i take, Effexor, is pretty side effect

heavy, and I do suffer from some of them...some were worse when I first

started and over time have subsided some....some others have continued. But

all in all I have to say that considering the tremendous negative effect the

depression was having on my life pre-med and treatment I really consider the

side effects to be negligible. Now I do understand that the side effects are

worse in some people then others. I guess just as with dealing with your

diabetes diet it depends on how much you can aggravation tolerate to make

yourself feel better. My life was a total mess before AD's and my marriage

was strained to the limit. I really do feel AD's saved my life. The funny

thing of it is now in hindsight I think if the doc decided to take my AD's

away I would flip! ;-) I am so used to a stable mood now I would NOT be

happy to go back to the roller-coaster of depression. As a matter of fact it

was one of my fears...as soon as my AD started to work, and my thinking

became more rational, I understood how much good the AD was doing me and i

began to wonder if the doc would ever decide it was time to stop them and

just stop writing the script for them.....so I had a talk with him. He

assured me that would be a decision he would NEVER make unless I okayed

it...the reason being I am really the only one who can say how I'm feeling.

So after that i quit worrying about that.

So I guess the point I'm getting to here is if you are one of those people

who are fearing the AD's and their side effects and the depression is

disrupting your life then more then likely taking AD's would greatly improve

your life...they are not something to fear.

Deb

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[Guest guest]

said....

Side Note: I've recently read a lot about it being entirely ineffective for

major depression, and shouldn't be recommended at all until further

research. There's also the danger of St. 's wort reducing the

effectiveness of other meds. I guess a lot of people take it to avoid the

side effects that come with most anti-depressants, but it seems to have it's

own.

It's good to hear your talk therapy worked ;-)

Anyhow about side effects. The one i take, Effexor, is pretty side effect

heavy, and I do suffer from some of them...some were worse when I first

started and over time have subsided some....some others have continued. But

all in all I have to say that considering the tremendous negative effect the

depression was having on my life pre-med and treatment I really consider the

side effects to be negligible. Now I do understand that the side effects are

worse in some people then others. I guess just as with dealing with your

diabetes diet it depends on how much you can aggravation tolerate to make

yourself feel better. My life was a total mess before AD's and my marriage

was strained to the limit. I really do feel AD's saved my life. The funny

thing of it is now in hindsight I think if the doc decided to take my AD's

away I would flip! ;-) I am so used to a stable mood now I would NOT be

happy to go back to the roller-coaster of depression. As a matter of fact it

was one of my fears...as soon as my AD started to work, and my thinking

became more rational, I understood how much good the AD was doing me and i

began to wonder if the doc would ever decide it was time to stop them and

just stop writing the script for them.....so I had a talk with him. He

assured me that would be a decision he would NEVER make unless I okayed

it...the reason being I am really the only one who can say how I'm feeling.

So after that i quit worrying about that.

So I guess the point I'm getting to here is if you are one of those people

who are fearing the AD's and their side effects and the depression is

disrupting your life then more then likely taking AD's would greatly improve

your life...they are not something to fear.

Deb

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[Guest guest]

said....

Side Note: I've recently read a lot about it being entirely ineffective for

major depression, and shouldn't be recommended at all until further

research. There's also the danger of St. 's wort reducing the

effectiveness of other meds. I guess a lot of people take it to avoid the

side effects that come with most anti-depressants, but it seems to have it's

own.

It's good to hear your talk therapy worked ;-)

Anyhow about side effects. The one i take, Effexor, is pretty side effect

heavy, and I do suffer from some of them...some were worse when I first

started and over time have subsided some....some others have continued. But

all in all I have to say that considering the tremendous negative effect the

depression was having on my life pre-med and treatment I really consider the

side effects to be negligible. Now I do understand that the side effects are

worse in some people then others. I guess just as with dealing with your

diabetes diet it depends on how much you can aggravation tolerate to make

yourself feel better. My life was a total mess before AD's and my marriage

was strained to the limit. I really do feel AD's saved my life. The funny

thing of it is now in hindsight I think if the doc decided to take my AD's

away I would flip! ;-) I am so used to a stable mood now I would NOT be

happy to go back to the roller-coaster of depression. As a matter of fact it

was one of my fears...as soon as my AD started to work, and my thinking

became more rational, I understood how much good the AD was doing me and i

began to wonder if the doc would ever decide it was time to stop them and

just stop writing the script for them.....so I had a talk with him. He

assured me that would be a decision he would NEVER make unless I okayed

it...the reason being I am really the only one who can say how I'm feeling.

So after that i quit worrying about that.

So I guess the point I'm getting to here is if you are one of those people

who are fearing the AD's and their side effects and the depression is

disrupting your life then more then likely taking AD's would greatly improve

your life...they are not something to fear.

Deb

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[Guest guest]

Just wanted to add to the discussion. There are so many AD drugs

available now, if I had side effects, I would keep changing until I

found a match. I tried about 5 and all made me deathly sick, but Zoloft

is great. A little dry mouth, but I drink all the time anyway. so I

figure I just getting more liquid, but other that that is great.

Keep searching. It can be a long process. When you are not depressed and

not panicked you will be surprised the changes you can make in your

life. I finished my education after 25 years of trying and other things

got better.

Phyllis

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to add to the discussion. There are so many AD drugs

available now, if I had side effects, I would keep changing until I

found a match. I tried about 5 and all made me deathly sick, but Zoloft

is great. A little dry mouth, but I drink all the time anyway. so I

figure I just getting more liquid, but other that that is great.

Keep searching. It can be a long process. When you are not depressed and

not panicked you will be surprised the changes you can make in your

life. I finished my education after 25 years of trying and other things

got better.

Phyllis

[Guest guest]

Phyllis said....

> Just wanted to add to the discussion. There are so many AD drugs

> available now, if I had side effects, I would keep changing until I

> found a match. I tried about 5 and all made me deathly sick, but Zoloft

> is great. A little dry mouth, but I drink all the time anyway. so I

> figure I just getting more liquid, but other that that is great.

I had thought that at first too and as a matter of fact that was why we (the

doc and I) decided to stop the Prozac I was taking after only 6 months and

start Effexor....as I'm sure you know from changing so many times, every

time you have to change you have to be weaned and then re-started...it can

destabilize you. Plus since the one I'm on is addictive it takes longer to

wean from...so when I started having some side effects I had to decide if I

could live with them...they weren't too bad and one (the fatigue I used to

feel after taking it in the morning) eventually did go away after about a

year. So in the end I figured it was better to live with the side effects

then mess too much with the drug. Plus you are always risking the chance

that whatever you are changed to may not work (not all AD's work on

everyone) I think this is different for everyone and you just don't know

till you're on them how it will go.....don't you agree?

I hope we are not boring the non-depressed people on the group with this but

since depression seems to be so prevalent with diabetics I thought it a good

topic...particularly since I can remember how hesitant I was to seek

treatment till I spoke to someone who had experience with it...actually I

think that person taking the time to help me thru that saved my life.

Deb

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